Posted: 06/22/2014 5:46 AM
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GatorBrian wrote: I would like him to become full time 3rd baseman.
Posted: 06/23/2014 8:29 AM
BBG65 wrote: GatorBrian wrote: I would like him to become full time 3rd baseman.Sure, Pedro's sucked lately, but the guy led the league in HRs and the team in RBIs with 100 last year. Plus, he hit, I think, 5 HRs in the 6 playoff games. Do you really think Harrison could come close to those numbers? Alvarez needs to start pulling and driving the ball again, instead of this opposite field stuff.
Last edited 06/23/2014 8:39 AM by TBayXXXVII
Posted: 06/23/2014 8:41 AM
WWJDLion wrote: Although Cutch is still, far and away, the best player on the team, has there been anymore valuable than Josh Harrison this year? Where would the Pirates be without him? RF, LF, 3B, 2B, and even occasionally SS. Hitting .300, and with a good deal of pop. And has anyone had more "big hits" than Harrison this year?As I've said before, he has his flaws and limitations, but Harrison has always produced and overachieved - at every level he's ever played at. The kid is a winner.
Posted: 06/23/2014 8:55 AM
TBayXXXVII wrote: BBG65 wrote: GatorBrian wrote: I would like him to become full time 3rd baseman.Sure, Pedro's sucked lately, but the guy led the league in HRs and the team in RBIs with 100 last year. Plus, he hit, I think, 5 HRs in the 6 playoff games. Do you really think Harrison could come close to those numbers? Alvarez needs to start pulling and driving the ball again, instead of this opposite field stuff.There are plenty of hitter's who are extremely productive that don't hit a lot of homeruns. RBI's aren't the only way to generate runs. Scoring them is just as effective. If you have Polanco, Harrison, and McCutchen batting 1-2-3, I think there's an excellent chance that Harrison could be responsible for as many runs as Alvarez last years (134). This is assuming that Harrison can continue to about .300 and have an OBP of about .340. Now can he? I don't know, but I'm willing to give him a try.To note, Robinson Cano is on pace to knock in over 90 runs while hitting only 9 HR's. Now, that's assuming he'll continue to bat .323 all season. Will Harrison do that? No, I don't think any of us believe he would or even could, but Cano's is batting 3rd with bad hitters in front of him. If Harrison were to bat 4th, he legitimately could have a .300+ hitting in Polanco, a .280 hitter in Walker or Marte (potential), and a .300+ hitter in McCutchen in front of him. If Harrison could continue to hit over .290 with those 3 (of the 4), in front of him, I have every reason to believe he could knock in well over 100 runs in a full season.Last year Alvarez had 100 RBI's and scored 70 runs. If the Pirates had a lineup of (for example)...Polanco [RF] - (.300)Walker [2B] - (.280)McCutchen [CF] - (.310)Harrison [3B] - (.290)Marte [LF] - .280Davis / Sanchez [1B] - .260Martin [C] - .260Barmes / Mercer [SS]I absolutely think Harrison could score 70 runs and knock in 100 RBI's. The thing is, Harrison could score 60 and knock in 90 and still be more productive... specifically because of HR's. Alvarez's runs created was 134 (because he hit 36 HR's). If Harrison knocked in 90, scored 60, and homered 10 times, Harrison would create 140 runs. Everything of course though is based on the ability of Harrison to be able to be a .290+ hitter. Can he? I don't know. But at this point, I know what Pedro can and can't do... I don't know that about Harrison.
Last edited 06/23/2014 8:55 AM by williamjpellas
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Posted: 06/23/2014 9:05 AM
williamjpellas wrote: TB is 100% correct to point out that there are plenty of players, and always have been, who generate plenty of offense quite apart from hitting home runs. Many years ago I read an interesting article in Baseball Digest that listed the hitters who, to that point in time (late 1980s), had put up seasons of 100 or more RBI with 10 or fewer home runs. Without cheating and Googling to get that list again, I do remember that Willie Montanez (briefly a Pirate near the end of his career) and Tom Herr were two of those players. Anyway, players like that are not popular in the SABR / Moneyball / Swing From The Heels And Who Cares How Many Times You Strike Out era, but for my money they are extremely valuable and I suspect the pendulum will swing back in their favor now that steroids are (supposedly) leaving the game and runs are once more at a premium. James Loney is one current player who is cut from this sort of cloth. Not a lot of home runs but puts the ball in play frequently, is hard to strike out, and drives in a lot of runs considering his below-average-for-his-position home run power.
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Posted: 06/23/2014 9:22 AM
williamjpellas wrote: Phillips is along the same lines, though not one of my personal favorite players by any stretch. But yes, a guy cut from similar cloth.
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williamjpellas wrote: Uhhh.....I for one would never, ever compare Harrison with Madlock. That's beyond ludicrous. Loved the Montanez photo, thanks for the memories!
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