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Grilli's last outing as a closer?

Posted: 06/19/2014 1:05 PM

Grilli's last outing as a closer? 


Grilli gave up another 9th inning bomb. I think this has exhausted Hurdle's patience, finally. He's a great guy, sad to see him struggle, but he can't keep doing this.
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Posted: 06/19/2014 1:11 PM

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xlopjoe wrote: Grilli gave up another 9th inning bomb. I think this has exhausted Hurdle's patience, finally. He's a great guy, sad to see him struggle, but he can't keep doing this.
the owner makes the call not hurdle,and unless they find another reliable closer i don't know if they make the move
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Posted: 06/19/2014 1:28 PM

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He should have been put on the DL or let go weeks ago......instead we trade Morris for a draft pick, as if Morris was what was all wrong with the bullpen. Morris was lights out compared to Grilli and Wilson this year.

If this wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny. How many game tying/winning HRs has Grilli now given up late in games? I think its like 5-6 now. Why did Hurdle, again, feel it was necessary to replace Melancon with Grilli, just because it was the 9th inning. That is called over managing, without giving consideration to how individuals are actually performing.
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Posted: 06/19/2014 1:29 PM

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So, we just let him keep blowing games??
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Posted: 06/19/2014 1:45 PM

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chu8870 wrote:
xlopjoe wrote: Grilli gave up another 9th inning bomb. I think this has exhausted Hurdle's patience, finally. He's a great guy, sad to see him struggle, but he can't keep doing this.
the owner makes the call not hurdle,and unless they find another reliable closer i don't know if they make the move


I don't believe this at all.  It is Hurdle's call.  I agree with the OP that today was Grilli's last chance to close for a while. 

Melancon gets the next chance, and then Tony Watson if necessary.

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Posted: 06/19/2014 1:57 PM

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Morris, Davis, Morris, Davis, Morris, Davis, Morris, Davis.


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He should have been put on the DL or let go weeks ago......instead we trade Morris for a draft pick, as if Morris was what was all wrong with the bullpen. Morris was lights out compared to Grilli and Wilson this year.

If this wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny. How many game tying/winning HRs has Grilli now given up late in games? I think its like 5-6 now. Why did Hurdle, again, feel it was necessary to replace Melancon with Grilli, just because it was the 9th inning. That is called over managing, without giving consideration to how individuals are actually performing.

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Posted: 06/19/2014 2:00 PM

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Yep. It's one chance more than I would have given him, but I can also see CH's reasoning. It's not an easy call. If he gives him another chance he should be seriously questioned though.


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chu8870 wrote:
xlopjoe wrote: Grilli gave up another 9th inning bomb. I think this has exhausted Hurdle's patience, finally. He's a great guy, sad to see him struggle, but he can't keep doing this.
the owner makes the call not hurdle,and unless they find another reliable closer i don't know if they make the move


I don't believe this at all.  It is Hurdle's call.  I agree with the OP that today was Grilli's last chance to close for a while. 

Melancon gets the next chance, and then Tony Watson if necessary.

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Posted: 06/19/2014 3:11 PM

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Even I will be pissed at Hurdle if he lets Grilli continue to close.
"I originally said he would get fired in mid-May after a poor start, but honestly, he might not make it to May at this rate." A 'professional' opinion of Manager of the Year Clint Hurdle 4/8/13
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Posted: 06/19/2014 3:33 PM

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Great outing. Maybe we can read about it in the paperback edition of his new book?
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Posted: 06/19/2014 3:34 PM

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WWJDLion wrote: He should have been put on the DL or let go weeks ago......instead we trade Morris for a draft pick, as if Morris was what was all wrong with the bullpen. Morris was lights out compared to Grilli and Wilson this year.

If this wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny. 
I'm so glad you are not managing this team. It would be the Cleveland Spiders all over again. eek1
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Posted: 06/19/2014 3:36 PM

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GhostOfPBG wrote: Even I will be pissed at Hurdle if he lets Grilli continue to close.
Yeah, I think he needs to put Melancon back in that role and use Grilli in set up situations. 

I'm waiting for the Vin Mazzaro fan club to start touting him for closer.
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Posted: 06/19/2014 5:48 PM

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Should the FO be looking at a potential trade for Huston Street? This bullpen really is holding this team back now.
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Posted: 06/19/2014 5:53 PM

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You got it...did you notice Davis did not start today against a right hander? Maybe the Pirates are finally realizing he sub standard.
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Posted: 06/19/2014 5:55 PM

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Even if you do not count Snider's 2 runs surrendered, I think the bullpen has now given up 15 or 16 runs in past 6 games. Its a miracle that we split those 6 games, given those stats.

The bullpen looks much stronger, now that Morris is gone.
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Posted: 06/20/2014 4:36 AM

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WWJDLion wrote: Even if you do not count Snider's 2 runs surrendered, I think the bullpen has now given up 15 or 16 runs in past 6 games. Its a miracle that we split those 6 games, given those stats.

The bullpen looks much stronger, now that Morris is gone.
For real? You have to playing this Morris thing to simply try to stir the pot. Are you related to him? I ask that seriously. Otherwise, we simply watched different games this year when he pitched.

You are acting like they traded freaking Mariano Rivera. You realize Morris was mostly horrible for the Pirates and was worse than the anyone in the Bullpen at the time he was traded? He wasn't pitching good for the Pirates.
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Posted: 06/20/2014 11:53 AM

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Hurdle announces that Grili has been removed from Closer's job. Good move by Hurdle.
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Posted: 06/20/2014 12:25 PM

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Grilli out, Melancon is the new closer. biggrin
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Posted: 06/20/2014 12:57 PM

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Problem is though.....Melancon also has 2 or 3 blown saves himself. The Bucco's are pretty far out right now so a trade for an established closer probably isn't in store. I have to think it will be a priority in the off season, though.
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Posted: 06/20/2014 1:07 PM

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they are 3.5 games out of wildcard. I wouldnt say they are that far out of it. Especially with the next 16 games they have vs the 16 games the Cardinals have. they can gain ground on th ebottom wild card. Also Dodger and Cardinals play in the next 16 games so one of those teams can push the other back. There is planty of baseball left and they still have a chance.

Now dont mistake those words for me being a homer who thinks this is a great team. I dont. Pitching is injured and rough (Bull pen) still need improvements on offense but they arent out of it.

If they have a good stretch here in the next 16 games they will be 3-4 games over .500 hopefully and can jump by Cinci, miami and St Louis in wildcard while atlanta would hold a slight lead on them (Just my best guess)


 

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Posted: 06/20/2014 1:39 PM

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As reported in the Trib today, Hurdle has announced that Melancon will replace Grilli as the closer, with Tony Watson getting the occasional chance as well.

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