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Posted: 06/09/2014 7:45 PM

Polanco RF 


starting tomorrow for pirates in RF
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Posted: 06/09/2014 7:48 PM

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Sorry chu88, I looked on here and didn't see a post on this, then when I posted mine and it went to the topics I saw your post. Sorry for stepping on your post.

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Posted: 06/09/2014 7:49 PM

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its cool lol,just thought id post about it seeing their wasn't anything here yet
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Posted: 06/09/2014 7:58 PM

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According to MLBRUMORS, Walker is going on the DL and Polanco called up. Maybe they will move Jay Hay to 2nd until Walker comes back.
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Posted: 06/10/2014 2:01 AM

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Damn, every time Walker gets on a roll, he goes on the DL. It's one of the reasons the Pirates won't pay him top dollar on a long term contract. He can kiss any shot at the All Star team goodbye too.
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Posted: 06/10/2014 4:28 AM

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Emergency Appendectomy or however you spell that for Walker. I guess he had surgery last night according to the FAN.

Tough break for him.

Excited to see Polanco up.

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Posted: 06/10/2014 6:45 AM

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Hard to blame Walker for needing an appendectomy.  noidea

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Posted: 06/10/2014 8:14 AM

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So does Walker's appendectomy give Snider a stay of execution or does an infielder get called up?
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Posted: 06/10/2014 8:32 AM

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Polanco was called up in his spot for now. I think Snider stays for now as Harrison will be the regular 2nd basemen until Walker returns.

Then a decision will need to be made.
Milfman wrote: So does Walker's appendectomy give Snider a stay of execution or does an infielder get called up?
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Posted: 06/10/2014 8:44 AM

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The way Snider is hitting off the bench, I'd much rather keep him in the lineup.  Honestly, I'm starting to think that maybe Mercer is a 4-A player.  After Walker returns from the DL, I'd consider sending Mercer back down for good.
#fringeprospect

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Posted: 06/10/2014 9:13 AM

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If Walker hadn't had to go on the DL, I wonder how much longer Huntington would have waited to bring up Polanco.  Super two should have been up a week or so ago and obviously is now, but it seemed like NH was in no hurry. Harrison being needed full-time at 2nd made this move necessary. The fan reaction would have been huge if they had brought up someone other than GP.
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Posted: 06/10/2014 9:23 AM

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TBayXXXVII wrote: The way Snider is hitting off the bench, I'd much rather keep him in the lineup.  Honestly, I'm starting to think that maybe Mercer is a 4-A player.  After Walker returns from the DL, I'd consider sending Mercer back down for good.

Seems to me that any thinking Pirates fan has to wonder about Mercer, and you bring up an interesting possibility that it might be him and not Snider who walks the plank once Walker gets back.  However, I still like Mercer as at least a good utilityman, and with Walker's future up in the air---and with his spate of injuries in recent years---I'm guessing that Mercer will remain in the big leagues as no worse than an often-used backup.  That, plus the only other guys on the roster at present who could remotely play shortstop are Harrison and Barmes.  I mean, I guess you could keep Harrison at short for his bat and sub in Barmes late in games for his glove, but the Pirates would lose a lot of flexibility if they only had two guys who could play short instead of the three they currently have. 


There are not a lot of appealing options at present, that is for sure.  The Pirates are significantly substandard at the moment at shortstop, and right field hasn't been good, either, other than Harrison's way-over-his-head heroics this season.  Hopefully Polanco will solve the right field problem quickly and for the foreseeable future, but he is young and he has a great deal of pressure on him, regardless of his obvious and phenomenal physical gifts.

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Posted: 06/10/2014 9:43 AM

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The way Snider is hitting off the bench, I'd much rather keep him in the lineup.  Honestly, I'm starting to think that maybe Mercer is a 4-A player.  After Walker returns from the DL, I'd consider sending Mercer back down for good.

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Except Mercer had been one of the best players in all of baseball over the last week and a half. He is hitting close to .400 and playing outstanding defense in June. It would be hard to send that player down.

I caught some slack for saying that I thought Mercer was an above average defensive shorstop, but I believe I am being proved right. He has been really good. I was watching the Brewers broadcast over the weekend and their announcers were glowing about his defense. They said that in their opinion he was one of the better (slick is the word they kept using lol) defensive shortstops in the league and mentioned his "cannon" for announcers arm. Not saying their word is gospel, just pointing out I'm not the only one that sees it.
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Posted: 06/10/2014 9:59 AM

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I will agree that Mercer has done better with the glove at shortstop than I thought he would, though I want to see him for at least the rest of the first half before I will rest easy that he really is legitimately a good defender at that position.  He does move better than I expected, I'll say that, and yes, he does have a strong throwing arm.   Unfortunately his hitting, with the exception of his current hot streak, has been really bad.  Again: he has more than proven that he can be a perfectly workable utilityman.  He has not proven that he is a legitimate starting major league shortstop.  At least to my mind, the jury is still out.

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Posted: 06/10/2014 11:12 AM

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Polanco is batting 2nd tonight. Harrison is leading off against the lefty Cubs starter.
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Posted: 06/10/2014 11:46 AM

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cferrel3 wrote:


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The way Snider is hitting off the bench, I'd much rather keep him in the lineup.  Honestly, I'm starting to think that maybe Mercer is a 4-A player.  After Walker returns from the DL, I'd consider sending Mercer back down for good.

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Except Mercer had been one of the best players in all of baseball over the last week and a half. He is hitting close to .400 and playing outstanding defense in June. It would be hard to send that player down.

I caught some slack for saying that I thought Mercer was an above average defensive shorstop, but I believe I am being proved right. He has been really good. I was watching the Brewers broadcast over the weekend and their announcers were glowing about his defense. They said that in their opinion he was one of the better (slick is the word they kept using lol) defensive shortstops in the league and mentioned his "cannon" for announcers arm. Not saying their word is gospel, just pointing out I'm not the only one that sees it.
Give me 20 days where he can hit .280 then I'll be a little more optimistic, but going 11-22 for 5 games then 1-11 over the next 3 isn't necessarily all that great.  It basically means he's Pedro Alvarez without the power.

If they're going to platoon him, then fine, but he's not an every day player.  If they're stuck with him because there's no one else, then they're going to have to find a way to remedy that in the future.  I'm a patient guy, but after 2 months of a .190 batting average... you're going to tell me that after he has a 5 game hot streak that he's too good to be sent down because of defense, I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it.  Heck, Barmes can hit .220 all year and play good defense.

At this point in the season, Mercer has a UZR of 0.0 (and batting .223), Barmes has a 0.2 (and batting .217).  Forgive me if I am unrealistic for expecting more from a well regarded 27 year old.
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Posted: 06/10/2014 12:22 PM

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Milfman wrote: Polanco is batting 2nd tonight. Harrison is leading off against the lefty Cubs starter.


Tough early test for Polanco.  Lefties are hitting .167 (460 OPS) against Travis Wood.

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Posted: 06/10/2014 1:03 PM

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1. Harrison
2. Polanco
3. McCutchen
4. Gabby
5. Russ
6. Marte
7. Mercer
8. Barmes
9. Liriano


I like Greg in the 2-hole...

I like getting both Mercer and JayHay in the lineup vs. Lefty... I'm a fan of Pedro, but with JayHay as hot as he is, and Polanco now up... it might be time to consider a L-R platoon at 3rd (once Walker gets back).
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Posted: 06/10/2014 1:09 PM

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Welcome to The Show Gregory.
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Posted: 06/10/2014 1:22 PM

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TBayXXXVII wrote:
cferrel3 wrote:


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The way Snider is hitting off the bench, I'd much rather keep him in the lineup.  Honestly, I'm starting to think that maybe Mercer is a 4-A player.  After Walker returns from the DL, I'd consider sending Mercer back down for good.

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Except Mercer had been one of the best players in all of baseball over the last week and a half. He is hitting close to .400 and playing outstanding defense in June. It would be hard to send that player down.

I caught some slack for saying that I thought Mercer was an above average defensive shorstop, but I believe I am being proved right. He has been really good. I was watching the Brewers broadcast over the weekend and their announcers were glowing about his defense. They said that in their opinion he was one of the better (slick is the word they kept using lol) defensive shortstops in the league and mentioned his "cannon" for announcers arm. Not saying their word is gospel, just pointing out I'm not the only one that sees it.
Give me 20 days where he can hit .280 then I'll be a little more optimistic, but going 11-22 for 5 games then 1-11 over the next 3 isn't necessarily all that great.  It basically means he's Pedro Alvarez without the power.

If they're going to platoon him, then fine, but he's not an every day player.  If they're stuck with him because there's no one else, then they're going to have to find a way to remedy that in the future.  I'm a patient guy, but after 2 months of a .190 batting average... you're going to tell me that after he has a 5 game hot streak that he's too good to be sent down because of defense, I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it.  Heck, Barmes can hit .220 all year and play good defense.

At this point in the season, Mercer has a UZR of 0.0 (and batting .223), Barmes has a 0.2 (and batting .217).  Forgive me if I am unrealistic for expecting more from a well regarded 27 year old.
As of now, Mercer is the best they got. After the season, they'll have a larger sample size to evaluate and see if it's realistic to improve from outside the organization.
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