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Angels would trade Trumbo for pitching

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Posted: 10/29/2013 10:54 AM

Angels would trade Trumbo for pitching 


A tweet from Buster Olney today:

The Angels want pitching, and sources say they've indicated a willingness to other teams to trade Peter Bourjos or/and Mark Trumbo to get it.

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESP...134402184753153


I don't think the Pirates would have any interest in Peter Bourjos, a defensive-minded centerfielder.

But Trumbo would fill the 1B spot in the order nicely.  The big downside, for me, is that Pedro and Trumbo are so much alike offensively -- big power and big strikeouts. low OBP and OK OPS.

So what pitching, if any, should the Pirates consider giving up for Trumbo?  The
Angels obviously MLB ready pitching, not good prospects.  Their guys are getting any younger.

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Posted: 10/29/2013 11:17 AM

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I'd consider Liriano based on the thinking the Pirates will not keep both Liriano and Burnett - so essentially you could get Trumbo and A.J. Burnett for Liriano.  Pretty good deal.

Morton for Trumbo isn't that bad of a deal when you consider you Trumbo is in his 4th year of club control and Morton in his 5th.  Maybe Morton's money could go towards A.J. too.  Crumpton could slide into the rotation until Taillon is available.

Wandy for Trumbo too - but the Angels wouldn't do that with Wandy's health not settled.

I certainly would not give Cole or Taillon.

Last edited 10/29/2013 11:18 AM by Sangue

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Posted: 10/29/2013 11:21 AM

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Sangue wrote: I'd consider Liriano based on the thinking the Pirates will not keep both Liriano and Burnett - so essentially you could get Trumbo and A.J. Burnett for Liriano.  Pretty good deal.

Morton for Trumbo isn't that bad of a deal when you consider you Trumbo is in his 4th year of club control and Morton in his 5th.  Maybe Morton's money could go towards A.J. too.  Crumpton could slide into the rotation until Taillon is available.

Wandy for Trumbo too - but the Angels wouldn't do that with Wandy's health not settled.

I certainly would not give Cole or Taillon.
I wouldn't give up Liriano for Trumbo. I would be willing to trade Morton or Locke.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 11:37 AM

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BBG65 wrote:
Sangue wrote: I'd consider Liriano based on the thinking the Pirates will not keep both Liriano and Burnett - so essentially you could get Trumbo and A.J. Burnett for Liriano.  Pretty good deal.

Morton for Trumbo isn't that bad of a deal when you consider you Trumbo is in his 4th year of club control and Morton in his 5th.  Maybe Morton's money could go towards A.J. too.  Crumpton could slide into the rotation until Taillon is available.

Wandy for Trumbo too - but the Angels wouldn't do that with Wandy's health not settled.

I certainly would not give Cole or Taillon.
I wouldn't give up Liriano for Trumbo. I would be willing to trade Morton or Locke.
I would love it if we could use Locke as the centerpiece for a Trumbo deal.  I really think Locke may have had a career year last year.  Maybe I'm wrong and maybe he'll be the next Tom Glavine, but I don't see him having an ERA much under 4 any time soon and I just don't see him being more than a 4th or 5th starter.  If you can land a guy who could make numerous All Star teams as a position player for Locke, I think you have to make that trade.
"I originally said he would get fired in mid-May after a poor start, but honestly, he might not make it to May at this rate." A 'professional' opinion of Manager of the Year Clint Hurdle 4/8/13
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Posted: 10/29/2013 11:59 AM

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Trumbo has bad splits, bad situational hitting and poor defense. His only quality is he hit 34 HR's. He is not worth a top pitching prospect. Heck, Locke may even be too much for Trumbo.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:09 PM

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I would give up Locke and that is essentially it.


I would absolutely not give up Liriano for him and I would not give up Morton either.

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Posted: 10/29/2013 1:01 PM

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Locke for Trumbo would be great. 

But the Angels would never go for it in a million trillion years.  Locke and Morton together might be a possibility, but the Angels would probably still be looking for more than that.

I'm not suggesting we should do it, at all.  I'm just speculating on what the price is probably going to be.

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Posted: 10/29/2013 1:07 PM

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No thanks, unless it is a couple C-type pitchers or one major league ready one.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 2:05 PM

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gr1111 wrote: Locke for Trumbo would be great. 

But the Angels would never go for it in a million trillion years.  Locke and Morton together might be a possibility, but the Angels would probably still be looking for more than that.

I'm not suggesting we should do it, at all.  I'm just speculating on what the price is probably going to be.
I agree with you the price will be way to high for the actual return you would get for Trumbo on the field.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 5:59 AM

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Katoy pretty much convinced me in another thread that Trumbo isn't worth it.  He's really not that good.
#fringeprospect
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Posted: 10/30/2013 8:26 AM

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TBayXXXVII wrote: Katoy pretty much convinced me in another thread that Trumbo isn't worth it.  He's really not that good.

Agreed here, as well.  Again, I am stumping for the Pirates to add one or, ideally, two high average, high contact, line drive, work-the-count hitters to the current stable.  This is why I believe a guy like James Loney is a much better fit for this team, at this point in time, than would another one dimensional, streak-power hitter like Trumbo.  Add in Loney's good glove and to me it's a no-brainer.  No to Trumbo.
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Posted: 10/30/2013 3:43 PM

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williamjpellas wrote:
TBayXXXVII wrote: Katoy pretty much convinced me in another thread that Trumbo isn't worth it.  He's really not that good.

Agreed here, as well.  Again, I am stumping for the Pirates to add one or, ideally, two high average, high contact, line drive, work-the-count hitters to the current stable.  This is why I believe a guy like James Loney is a much better fit for this team, at this point in time, than would another one dimensional, streak-power hitter like Trumbo.  Add in Loney's good glove and to me it's a no-brainer.  No to Trumbo.

I agree with James Loney because of the fact we don't have to give up prospect(s) to get him, but I'd like to point out that Mark Trumbo is a better fielder than James Loney at First Base.  Loney is a good defensive First Baseman so it is borderline irrelevant, but Trumbo is one of the best in the league.  Trumbo is brutal in RF and at Third Base, but is adequate in LF (not at PNC however).  First Base he is excellent, just thought I'd point that out.
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:15 AM

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I'd have a hard time believing Trumbo has Loney's defensive range, but okay.  noidea
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Posted: 10/31/2013 10:40 AM

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Trumbo is actually a great athlete if you have watched him play, especially for his size.  Kind of like Pedro Alvarez.  He is basically a younger version of Loney in terms of athleticism.
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