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Aceves, Morales, Doubront?

Posted: 12/21/2012 6:39 AM

Aceves, Morales, Doubront? 


Those are the three names of Red Sox pitchers mentioned on MLB Trade Rumors in regards to Hanrahan.  I don't know much about any of the three, but apparently the Red Sox would balk at Doubront being part of a deal.  25 year old with good K numbers from a brief glance at his stats. 

Just looking at numbers and ages, the other two don't really seem to be anything special. 

Anyone have any thoughts on that group?
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Posted: 12/21/2012 6:57 AM

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WVUKowski wrote: Those are the three names of Red Sox pitchers mentioned on MLB Trade Rumors in regards to Hanrahan.  I don't know much about any of the three, but apparently the Red Sox would balk at Doubront being part of a deal.  25 year old with good K numbers from a brief glance at his stats. 

Just looking at numbers and ages, the other two don't really seem to be anything special. 

Anyone have any thoughts on that group?

Yeah, after looking these guys up, I was a little surprised at the disparity between Doubront and the other two.  Personally, I can understand the need and desire for young pitching, but come on... our minor league system is chock full of them.  We're virtually void of hitting.  Forget a guy who's ready now and shoot for a hitter who will  be ready next year.  I say that because I don't think there's any reasonable chance that the Sox trade Doubront.

They should see if the Sox are willing to part with Cecchini or Iglesias.
#fringeprospect

Last edited 12/21/2012 7:04 AM by TBayXXXVII

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Posted: 12/21/2012 7:01 AM

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What we really need is a starting pitcher or two to add to the big league rotation.  Hopefully, that's what they can get for Hanrahan.  I'm assuming that's what they're targeting. 
TBayXXXVII wrote:
WVUKowski wrote: Those are the three names of Red Sox pitchers mentioned on MLB Trade Rumors in regards to Hanrahan.  I don't know much about any of the three, but apparently the Red Sox would balk at Doubront being part of a deal.  25 year old with good K numbers from a brief glance at his stats. 

Just looking at numbers and ages, the other two don't really seem to be anything special. 

Anyone have any thoughts on that group?

Yeah, after looking these guys up, I was a little surprised at the disparity between Doubront and the other two.  Personally, I can understand the need and desire for young pitching, but come on... our minor league system is chock full of them.  We're virtually void of hitting.  Forget a guy who's ready now and shoot for a hitter who will  be ready next year.  I say that because I don't think there's any reasonable chance that the Sox trade Doubront.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 7:21 AM

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WVUKowski wrote: What we really need is a starting pitcher or two to add to the big league rotation.  Hopefully, that's what they can get for Hanrahan.  I'm assuming that's what they're targeting. 
TBayXXXVII wrote:
WVUKowski wrote: Those are the three names of Red Sox pitchers mentioned on MLB Trade Rumors in regards to Hanrahan.  I don't know much about any of the three, but apparently the Red Sox would balk at Doubront being part of a deal.  25 year old with good K numbers from a brief glance at his stats. 

Just looking at numbers and ages, the other two don't really seem to be anything special. 

Anyone have any thoughts on that group?

Yeah, after looking these guys up, I was a little surprised at the disparity between Doubront and the other two.  Personally, I can understand the need and desire for young pitching, but come on... our minor league system is chock full of them.  We're virtually void of hitting.  Forget a guy who's ready now and shoot for a hitter who will  be ready next year.  I say that because I don't think there's any reasonable chance that the Sox trade Doubront.

I don't think they'll get one.  Unless a team is loaded with starters but needs a closer (which I don't think there are any), I don't think you'll get that for Hanrahan.  Correction... I don't think you'll get a "young" starter for Hanrahan, which appears to be what the Pirates are going to ask for.  If they need starters that bad, go out and throw $2 or $3M to Brett Myers.

Two other Sox prospects that look good would be Juan Carlos Linares and Anthony Ranaudo.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 8:24 AM

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I saw Doubront pitch in Triple A.  He has an excellent, consistent, and fluid delivery.  Definitely more of a finesse pitcher, at least on the day when I saw him, but his stuff has played better than I expected it would since he's been in the majors over the past couple of seasons.  He has pitched both as a starter and as a reliever for Da Sawx, and I think he would be a fine addition to the Pirates who could definitely fill the Karstens role of sixth starter / long reliever.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:02 AM

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The Liriano signing should open up new opportunities for the Pirates on the trade front. They no longer need a starter and can look for other pieces if they decided to trade Hanny. I think they should hold on to him after investing so much in Martin and Liriano and go for it. I think the collection of other arms can man the 5th slot effectively enough until Cole gets here or Morton's rehab is done.

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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:32 AM

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Doubront will drive you nuts.  All he wants to do is nibble at the edges.  He walks a lot and usually throws 100 pitches by about 5th inning or so.  At this point Inglesias is all glove and no bat, that's why they went out and got Drew at SS.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:51 AM

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http://www.piratesprospects.co...shortstops.html

Sounds like they have moved on from trying to get a starting pitcher in return and have switched to looking for a SS in return.

No idea how accurate Peratta's report is.....
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Posted: 12/21/2012 1:13 PM

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I wonder if there's any chance Lavarnway could be available in a Red Sox trade?  I don't like those two SS.

Last edited 12/21/2012 1:14 PM by BAMSTEELERFAN

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Posted: 12/21/2012 7:41 PM

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talk about hitters. Tampa Bay getting Wil Myers and D'Arnaud. To go with Longoria Zobrist,Jennings ,Joyce ,etc...they arent that bad. Matter a fact , they may have improved. That SP staff is Price Hellickson Moore Nieman is decent enough .That will be a very tough divison. The sad sacks of the AL will be Houston and 115 losses.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:41 PM

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bballexpert wrote: talk about hitters. Tampa Bay getting Wil Myers and D'Arnaud. To go with Longoria Zobrist,Jennings ,Joyce ,etc...they arent that bad. Matter a fact , they may have improved. That SP staff is Price Hellickson Moore Nieman is decent enough .That will be a very tough divison. The sad sacks of the AL will be Houston and 115 losses.


115?  That may be generous.  They are bad beyond belief.  If anything happened to Bud Norris---the only serviceable starting pitcher they have at the moment---it might be more like 125 losses.
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