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August 12, 2014: Nationals @ Mets (Fister-Montero) - 7:10 PM

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Posted: 8/12/2014 12:32 PM

August 12, 2014: Nationals @ Mets (Fister-Montero) - 7:10 PM 


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Posted: 8/12/2014 12:33 PM

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NEW YORK

FIRST PITCH: The Mets thought Rafael Montero was ready in May. Turned out he wasn't.

The Mets think Rafael Montero is ready now. We'll find out if they're right this time, starting Tuesday night against the Washington Nationals.

Montero rejoins the rotation for the 7:10 p.m. start, taking the place of Jacob deGrom, who went on the disabled list Monday with rotator cuff tendinitis.

The first time he was here (taking Jenrry Mejia's rotation spot when Mejia was sent to the bullpen), Montero went 0-2 with a 5.40 ERA in four starts, with 11 walks in 20 innings. He returned to Triple-A Las Vegas, where he's 6-3 with a 3.28 ERA in 15 starts.

Tuesday's news reports:

• For the first time since 1972, the Mets won eight games in Philadelphia in one season. Jonathon Niese snapped a personal four-game losing streak, and Anthony Recker snapped a personal 0-for-19 skid with a three-run home run. Read game stories in the Post, Daily News, Times, Newsday, Star Ledger, Record and MLB.com.

• The Mets chose Montero to take deGrom's place in the rotation, and columnist Kevin Kernan of the Post isn't impressed. Kernan wanted to see Noah Syndergaard instead, but he mostly makes his case by saying Syndergaard's debut would have been more exciting. As it was, the Mets chose another young pitcher whom they feel is more ready and whom they also need to find out about.

• The Mets said the injury report on deGrom was actually positive news, and that he may only need to miss two starts. We'll find out over the next couple of weeks whether they're right about that. Read more in the Post and Daily News.

• We've come to think of Tommy John surgery as routine, and recovery as automatic. That's just not true, and the Mets got a bitter reminder of that when they found out that Jeremy Hefner has had a major setback and may need to have the surgery again. Read more in the Star Ledger and on MLB.com.

• Mejia and Terry Collins met Monday, and Collins let his closer know that he didn't think it was a good idea to admit publicly that he'll need hernia surgery. Read more in the Daily News and Star Ledger.

• It's August, so the Mets (like all other teams) will put most if not all of their players through waivers. That's only significant if they actually have any interest in trading the player (e.g. Bartolo Colon). It's much less significant when players like Niese and Curtis Granderson clear, as they have, according to a report from Jon Heyman.

From the bloggers: On the 20th anniversary of the last baseball strike, Faith and Fear fondly remembers the fairly decent if totally forgotten 1994 Mets.

BIRTHDAYS: Barry Manuel, who appeared in 19 games for the 1997 Mets, turns 49 today.

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

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Posted: 8/12/2014 12:34 PM

Re: August 12, 2014: Nationals @ Mets (Fister-Montero) - 7:10 PM 


Series Preview, courtesy of Adam Rubin -

 

METS (57-62, fourth place/NL East) vs. WASHINGTON NATIONALS (63-53, first place/NL East)

Tuesday: RHP Rafael Montero (0-2, 5.40) vs. RHP Doug Fister (11-3, 2.49), 7:10 p.m. ET

Wednesday: RHP Bartolo Colon (11-9, 3.97) vs. RHP Jordan Zimmermann (7-5, 3.06), 7:10 p.m. ET

Thursday: RHP Dillon Gee (4-4, 3.54) vs. RHP Stephen Strasburg (8-10, 3.68), 7:10 p.m. ET

Nationals short-hops

• Center fielder Denard Span has reached base safely via hit or walk in 36 straight games, the longest active streak in the majors, and the second-longest streak in Nationals history. Ryan Zimmerman holds the franchise record, with 43 straight games reaching base in 2008. The longest streak in the majors this season belongs to Toronto’s Jose Bautista, with 37 straight games reaching base, through May 10.

Span also has a 14-game hitting streak. He has 23 steals. That is approaching the career-high 26 steals he produced in 2010.

Stephen Strasburg is 1-8 with a 5.25 ERA in 12 road starts this season. Overall, he already has surrendered 18 homers in 2014, two more than his previous career high. Strasburg nonetheless has a National League-best 186 strikeouts.

 

• Outfielder Steven Souza landed on the disabled list with a bruised left shoulder, which he suffered in a collision with the right-field wall Friday at Atlanta while trying to catch Freddie Freeman's homer. Outfielder Michael Taylor has been promoted. He hit a combined .315 with 22 homers and 63 RBIs with Double-A Harrisburg and Triple-A Syracuse this season.

Souza was filling in Friday because Jayson Werth was sidelined with right shoulder and ankle soreness for two weekend games. Werth returned to the starting lineup Sunday night.

Werth earned the NL Player of the Month award for July. He hit .337 with six homers and an NL-leading 24 RBIs during the month.

Bryce Harper created a stir Saturday in Atlanta when he partially wiped out the “A” in the dirt behind the batter’s box at Turner Field. Fans lustily booed him the remainder of the series. Harper denied intent.

Meanwhile, manager Matt Williams vehemently said last week there is no intention of demoting Harper, who recently had struggled. Williams has asked Harper to bunt less frequently.

• The Braves snapped an eight-game losing streak and won two of three weekend games against Washington to pull within 3½ games of the first-place Nats. The middle game ended at 2:29 a.m. Sunday. It was delayed by rain at the beginning for three hours, 41 minutes.

• The Nats acquired free-agent-to-be Asdrubal Cabrera and cash from the Cleveland Indians at the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline for 24-year-old infielder Zach Walters. The intent is for Cabrera, 28, to primarily play second base, displacing switch-hitting Danny Espinosa in the lead role at that position. Cabrera, an All-Star with the Indians in 2011 and ’12, last had started at second base in 2009 (28 games). He could be a Mets candidate to sign for shortstop during the upcoming offseason.

Doug Fister is 5-0 with a 1.80 ERA when pitching on extra rest this season, which he will do again Tuesday.

• Zimmerman is expected to miss most if not all of the remainder of the regular season with a Grade 3 right hamstring strain -- the most severe of the levels. Zimmerman originally suffered the injury on July 22 at Colorado. Anthony Rendon has shifted from second to third base minus Zimmerman, which helped fuel Cabrera’s acquisition.

• The Nationals claimed left-handed reliever Matt Thornton from the Yankees last week. Thornton made his D.C. debut against the Mets last Wednesday. Thornton is under contract for next season at $3.5 million.

• Catcher Wilson Ramos did not appear in last week’s series against the Mets in D.C. He was on paternity leave for the opening two games, then went unused in the series finale.

• First baseman Adam LaRoche had a rough July, hitting .159 (14-for-88) with one homer. He then got on track against the Mets last week. LaRoche went 6-for-11 with two homers, three RBIs and three walks during the three-game series. LaRoche’s father Dave continues to fill in as pitching coach with the Brooklyn Cyclones. He is subbing for Tom Signore, who is dealing with a head-related injury, which Signore suffered getting struck with a baseball while filling in for Frank Viola with Las Vegas.

• Washington has the top run differential in the National League at plus-79.

• Closer Rafael Soriano became the 46th pitcher to notch 200 saves on July 27.

• Shortstop Ian Desmond's 70 RBIs rank fourth in the NL. Desmond launched his 19th homer of the season on Sunday.

• Struggling backup outfielder Nate McLouth landed on the disabled list last Monday with right shoulder inflammation. He has hit only .173 this season.

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

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Posted: 8/12/2014 1:11 PM

Re: August 12, 2014: Nationals @ Mets (Fister-Montero) - 7:10 PM 


Fister due for a stinker, a sweep here and we are in business. Time for Wright to step up.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 2:13 PM

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"• It's August, so the Mets (like all other teams) will put most if not all of their players through waivers. That's only significant if they actually have any interest in trading the player (e.g. Bartolo Colon). It's much less significant when players like Niese and Curtis Granderson clear, as they have, according to a report from Jon Heyman. "

They should have interest in trading Niese and Granderson, imo. I'm not saying they should give them away, but they should be far from untouchable.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 2:24 PM

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Think that both clearing waivers speaks more to what their actual trade value at this point would be, than anything.

Plenty of red flags associated with Niese already (diminished velocity + rarely makes it through a full season), as his salary starts to escalate*** - and Granderson doesn't seem to have anybody busting down the doors to trade for him, either.

I'd doubt that either player is being guarded as an "untouchable" ---- at least I'd hope, anyway.


*** -  Here's Niese's deal, going forward:

2015: $7 million,
2016: $9 million,
2017: $10 million ($500,000 buyout),
2018: $10.5 million ($500,000 buyout)

Yes, it's always been pointed to as "team friendly" and beneficial to the Mets.....not disputed, especially in having seen how crazy the money's gotten for certain starting pitchers.  However, anything at all goes on with regard to his already questionable health status - and that starts to look more like "sunk cost"-type money for an already sketchy payroll like the Mets.  If not "sunk cost", then certainly - "re-assess from what you used to think of him"....but again, that's worst-case talk.

Hopefully, he's past his arm issues.....and can provide us with solid value for the length of his contract.  And if not, then let it be to our advantage somehow by his inclusion in a package deal for something worthwhile in exchange.

I've never been married to Niese, and it's unlikely to ever be that way for me as he ages.  Just my gut.

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

Last edited 8/12/2014 2:32 PM by Walnutz15

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Posted: 8/12/2014 4:26 PM

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Looks like Michael Taylor will start tonight; Werth is still out, I guess. How good is Taylor? Doesnt look like he even played in AAA much.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 4:41 PM

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It's time for these Mets to shock us and sweep a big series like this.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 5:13 PM

Re: August 12, 2014: Nationals @ Mets (Fister-Montero) - 7:10 PM 


Are they going to play tonight?


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Posted: 8/12/2014 5:26 PM

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Montero can't be walking the park tonight.
Control.

Beat these Nats.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 5:48 PM

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Granderson – RF
Murphy – 2B
Wright – 3B
Duda – 1B
d’Arnaud – C
den Dekker – LF
Lagares – CF
Flores – SS
Montero – RHP

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Posted: 8/12/2014 5:57 PM

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Looking forward to this Montero start. Nice lineup too, except for David Wright.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 6:16 PM

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Walnutz15 wrote: Think that both clearing waivers speaks more to what their actual trade value at this point would be, than anything.

Plenty of red flags associated with Niese already (diminished velocity + rarely makes it through a full season), as his salary starts to escalate*** - and Granderson doesn't seem to have anybody busting down the doors to trade for him, either.

I'd doubt that either player is being guarded as an "untouchable" ---- at least I'd hope, anyway.


*** -  Here's Niese's deal, going forward:

2015: $7 million,
2016: $9 million,
2017: $10 million ($500,000 buyout),
2018: $10.5 million ($500,000 buyout)

Yes, it's always been pointed to as "team friendly" and beneficial to the Mets.....not disputed, especially in having seen how crazy the money's gotten for certain starting pitchers.  However, anything at all goes on with regard to his already questionable health status - and that starts to look more like "sunk cost"-type money for an already sketchy payroll like the Mets.  If not "sunk cost", then certainly - "re-assess from what you used to think of him"....but again, that's worst-case talk.

Hopefully, he's past his arm issues.....and can provide us with solid value for the length of his contract.  And if not, then let it be to our advantage somehow by his inclusion in a package deal for something worthwhile in exchange.

I've never been married to Niese, and it's unlikely to ever be that way for me as he ages.  Just my gut.
Agree with everything you said about Niese. But the whole clearing waivers thing...I dont think its a good measure of  their desireability. I think most teams have kind of a mutual non-aggression pact for 98% of players put on waivers. Unless its an impact player blocked from going to a playoff contender by a competitor, I always understood it was professional courtesy that most teams dont claim guys so their guys dont get claimed in return. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 6:32 PM

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DrGuru wrote: Are they going to play tonight?


And now.. your local forecast for Queens, NY:

Tonight - Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rainfall. Low around 70. Southeast wind 15 to 17 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches possible.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 7:13 PM

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Montero at 93-95 against Span.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 7:13 PM

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That first at-bat gave me Montero Mania.  That second at-bat has me all like nah this guy's a bust.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 7:17 PM

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dondada10 wrote: That first at-bat gave me Montero Mania.  That second at-bat has me all like nah this guy's a bust.
He needs to stop giving up doubles.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 7:19 PM

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LaRoche batting .391 against the Mets.

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Posted: 8/12/2014 7:19 PM

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RSVandy wrote:
dondada10 wrote: That first at-bat gave me Montero Mania.  That second at-bat has me all like nah this guy's a bust.
He needs to stop giving up doubles.
You just know Wally Backman would fix whatever error causes Montero to give up doubles under Terry's watch flushed
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Posted: 8/12/2014 7:20 PM

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Nice! Hate Ladouche.
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