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Keith Law's Top 10 Met Prospect List (Org Rank #14)

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Posted: 2/7/2013 2:30 PM

Keith Law's Top 10 Met Prospect List (Org Rank #14) 


Mets' Top 10:

Player, POS (Top 100 rank)
1. Zack Wheeler, RHP (13)
2.Travis d'Arnaud, C (14)
3. N. Syndergaard, RHP (97)
4. Brandon Nimmo, OF
5. Gavin Cecchini, SS
6. Wilmer Flores, 3B
7. Rafael Montero, RHP
8. Domingo Tapia, RHP
9. Jacob deGrom, RHP
10. Hansel Robles, RHP

New York Mets

Org rank: 14

Farm system overview

It's a top-heavy system that was boosted substantially by the R.A. Dickey trade. It brought a return that accounts for two of the Mets' top three prospects while they wait for the 2011 and 2012 drafts to start to have more of an impact on the system.

2013 impact

Both of their top prospects, Travis d'Arnaud (acquired from Toronto) and Zack Wheeler (acquired from San Francisco), should spend at least half the year in the majors, d'Arnaud depending on his health and Wheeler on room in the Mets' rotation. Wheeler might be their Matt Harvey, coming up midyear and getting by first on raw stuff as he makes adjustments, while d'Arnaud will have to show he can work the count enough to get to that power.

Sleeper

Domingo Tapia, last year's sleeper, had a strong year in full-season ball, although I think he's been passed by Rafael Montero, who has better command and better secondary stuff than Tapia, who throws harder with more sink but is less of a complete pitcher. Jacob deGrom came back from Tommy John surgery in the middle of the season and was 92-96 with plus life, a good slider, feel for a change and good control. He has yet to throw a full season anywhere, though, as he didn't convert to pitching regularly until the spring of 2010.

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Posted: 2/7/2013 3:42 PM

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Walnutz15 wrote:

 Jacob deGrom didn't convert to pitching regularly until the spring of 2010.

What was he before, a Zoroastrian?

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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:21 PM

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Degrom seems to have some helium this winter.....Law has him at 9 and I think Mayo had him at 11 or 12.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:56 PM

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Surprised he doesn't have Fulmer in the top 10


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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:57 PM

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nyjets2047 wrote: Surprised he doesn't have Fulmer in the top 10

He must view Fulmer as a future reliever.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:17 PM

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DocK16 wrote:
nyjets2047 wrote: Surprised he doesn't have Fulmer in the top 10

He must view Fulmer as a future reliever.
I doubt this bonehead has ever watched Fulmer pitch. Lets not forget, this is the same guy who had Wilmer Flores in his top 50 2 years ago, and after a season in which he dominated AA at 20 he doesn't even crack his top 200 now? Pretty sad people still follow this guy...
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:19 PM

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spiritOF86 wrote:
DocK16 wrote:
nyjets2047 wrote: Surprised he doesn't have Fulmer in the top 10

He must view Fulmer as a future reliever.
I doubt this bonehead has ever watched Fulmer pitch. Lets not forget, this is the same guy who had Wilmer Flores in his top 50 2 years ago, and after a season in which he dominated AA at 20 he doesn't even crack his top 200 now? Pretty sad people still follow this guy...

Just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he isn't one of the best in the business.  Even the best are wrong -- a lot.  Law tends to be wrong less than most.

Prospects see their standing rise and fall all the time, especially the younger ones as strengths and weaknesses are revealed.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:27 PM

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DocK16 wrote:
nyjets2047 wrote: Surprised he doesn't have Fulmer in the top 10

He must view Fulmer as a future reliever.
I doubt this bonehead has ever watched Fulmer pitch. Lets not forget, this is the same guy who had Wilmer Flores in his top 50 2 years ago, and after a season in which he dominated AA at 20 he doesn't even crack his top 200 now? Pretty sad people still follow this guy...

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Agree 100%. Law is consistently wrong about players and is so arrogant in the way he does it.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:36 PM

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thethe wrote:

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DocK16 wrote:
nyjets2047 wrote: Surprised he doesn't have Fulmer in the top 10

He must view Fulmer as a future reliever.
I doubt this bonehead has ever watched Fulmer pitch. Lets not forget, this is the same guy who had Wilmer Flores in his top 50 2 years ago, and after a season in which he dominated AA at 20 he doesn't even crack his top 200 now? Pretty sad people still follow this guy...

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Agree 100%. Law is consistently wrong about players and is so arrogant in the way he does it.

You just hate on him because he doesn't give glowing reviews to your beloved GM's handling of the farm system or gush about overrated Braves prospects.

Law is wrong a hell of a lot less than Braves fans, that's for sure. tongue
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:40 PM

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And he'll be consistently wrong about the Braves moving forward.

Yes, we as Brave fans were horrible at evaulating our prospects 5-10 years ago but what prospects have we gloated about that have busted since the infamous Jo Jo Reyes and Charlie Morton?
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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:57 PM

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With the exception of Heyward, pretty much all of them.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 6:00 PM

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Kimbrel

All the other are highly productive players at the major league level. The Mets should be so lucky.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 6:12 PM

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thethe wrote: Kimbrel

All the other are highly productive players at the major league level. The Mets should be so lucky.

Just because you've got multiple players producing in the bigs doesn't mean even those guys weren't wildly overrated by Braves fans.  Yunel was as good or better than Reyes, FF capable of 40 HR and .900+ OPS, Jordan Shafer, Mike Minor is now a frontline starter, Sean Gilmartin, Andeltron Simmons is a future .780-.800+ OPS hitter according to you, Tyler Pastrowhateverhisnameis, Gattis.  The list goes on and on.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 6:17 PM

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Not going to hijack a thread. You and I have discussed this numerous times. Braves have had an incredible track record the last five years.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 6:25 PM

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Bottom line, you'll be hard pressed to fine a better, more knowledgeable and reputable prospect evaluator than Law.  That doesn't mean his word is the gospel or that he has scouted every single player he ranks; nobody can make that claim.  Lots of fan bases claim he's biased against their team, which speaks more to their bias than it does Law's.  

I don't agree with him on every evaluation, but he's right more than he's wrong and more than just about everyone else.  If there's a better person out there who evaluates all prospects, I'd like to know his/her name.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 6:49 PM

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thethe wrote: Kimbrel

All the other are highly productive players at the major league level. The Mets should be so lucky.
Yeah, Charlie Morton and Jo Jo Reyes are doing really well.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 6:51 PM

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thethe wrote: And he'll be consistently wrong about the Braves moving forward.

Yes, we as Brave fans were horrible at evaulating our prospects 5-10 years ago but what prospects have we gloated about that have busted since the infamous Jo Jo Reyes and Charlie Morton?
Don't forget about Yunel, who was supposedly better than Reyes. I still laugh at the argument - Yunel is smarter than Reyes, so he's better.

Hey, whatever happened to Jordan Schafer? I remember Braves fans telling us that he was the next Pete Rose (as a hitter).

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Posted: 2/7/2013 7:15 PM

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Schafer was a roider.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 7:37 PM

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thethe wrote: Not going to hijack a thread. You and I have discussed this numerous times. Braves have had an incredible track record the last five years.

Freeman, Heyward, Simmons, and Pastornicky were all only 22 years old last season.  As was Delgado.  Teheran only 21.  Plus on the pitching side, they've also turned out Hanson, Minor, Beachy, Kimbrel, Venters, Medlen...

Good track record, but they were also a highly ranked system when most of those guys were prospects.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 7:39 PM

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thethe wrote: Schafer was a roider.

And they still managed to deal him and some other scrubs for Michael Bourn.
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