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Trading for Jacoby Ellsbury

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Posted: 10/11/2012 4:49 PM

Trading for Jacoby Ellsbury 


Look at his stats.

Imagine the buzz and the new look to our lineup if we were to put together a pitching rich package (Flores, Mejia, Familia & Den Dekker?) for the ROSOX.

CF Ellsbury
SS Tejada
2B Murphy
3B Wright
1B Davis
LF Hairston/Duda
RF Cody Ross
C   Shoppach/Thole 






http://www.baseball-reference....ellsbja01.shtml

Bleed blue & orange

Last edited 10/11/2012 4:50 PM by sixcabs

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Posted: 10/11/2012 4:56 PM

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I don't think that would get it done.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:15 PM

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He was great in 2011, but seems to get hurt a lot. He missed 88 games this year and 144 in 2010. Plus he's due for ~$10M this upcoming year and then free agency.

If the Red Sox will take back Jason Bay to off-set the money, maybe...
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:18 PM

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erosen wrote: He was great in 2011, but seems to get hurt a lot. He missed 88 games this year and 144 in 2010. Plus he's due for ~$10M this upcoming year and then free agency.

If the Red Sox will take back Jason Bay to off-set the money, maybe...
Seems like exactly the guy to be bullish on.  No way the Sox take back Bay for Ellsbury.  They're gonna want at least 2 prospects for him, injuries and all.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:20 PM

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I doubt the Mets are going to waste assets trading for a guy who is going to hit FA in a year.
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:21 PM

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I was suggesting that they have to *also* take Bay [or send back a bunch of cash] if they want prospects-- not Bay straight up.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:26 PM

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FWIW- 2011 vs the rest of his career:

2011 732 PA, .321/.376/.552/.928 [.231 ISO, .340 BABIP]
other 1836 PA, .287/.336/.398/.734 [.111 ISO, .320 BABIP]

His 2011 home run rate was 3.5x of the home run rate otherwise.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:36 PM

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I looked him up, and stopped reading at:
Bats L

If he were a righthanded middle of the lineup hitter, I'd be interested.

No thanks.

Later
"You spend a good part of your life gripping the baseball, and in the end it turns out it was the other way around all the time." Jim Bouton
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Posted: 10/11/2012 5:46 PM

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He's only had one great season and has been injured a lot. He's a free agent in a year. Might as well just wait and see how he does in 2013 and then sign him as a free agent if the Mets are capable of spending more than a few thousand dollars.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 6:06 PM

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The Mets can sign BJ Upton this year if they want to add a CFer. For their careers, they have similar OBP and SLG, near identical OPS+... Upton has been durable and is 11 months younger and won't cost any prospects.

If you like crowd-sourced rankings... the bb-ref 'Fan EloRater' also has them near identical; 1373 vs 1355 [slightly favoring Ellsbury]
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Posted: 10/11/2012 6:09 PM

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I think Elsbury fits the ballpark a bit better than BJ Upton. I think Elsbury could thrive taking advantage of pulling the ball down the RF line kinda like how Utley has done here.


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Posted: 10/11/2012 6:19 PM

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erosen wrote: The Mets can sign BJ Upton this year if they want to add a CFer. For their careers, they have similar OBP and SLG, near identical OPS+... Upton has been durable and is 11 months younger and won't cost any prospects.

If you like crowd-sourced rankings... the bb-ref 'Fan EloRater' also has them near identical; 1373 vs 1355 [slightly favoring Ellsbury]
I'll take Ellsbury any day of the week. Uptons .240 average with 160+ strikeouts just isn't worth it for the 25 HR's.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 7:19 PM

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You guys are looking in the wrong aisle of the store.   Check the discount section.

Think Travis Buck or Rick Ankiel.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 7:23 PM

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Nah, I think that it'll be more like Timo Perez or Jay Payton, get someone out of retirement. Ankiel is too expensive!
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Posted: 10/11/2012 7:58 PM

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Ellsbury is already expensive, incredibly inconsistent, is a FA in a year and has Boras as his agent. Plus the Sox won't give him away for less than a kings ransom. No thanks.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:03 PM

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Wright and Ike for Ellsbury and Pedrioa might be interesting.
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:10 PM

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RSVandy wrote:  Ankiel is too expensive!

B'sides, the Mets had their own low cost "Ankiel -lite" at Buffalo this year, Adam Loewen.

Later
"You spend a good part of your life gripping the baseball, and in the end it turns out it was the other way around all the time." Jim Bouton
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Posted: 10/11/2012 11:14 PM

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"I'll take Ellsbury any day of the week. Uptons .240 average with 160+ strikeouts just isn't worth it for the 25 HR's."

Are we not beyond AVG, HR, SO as our sole metrics yet?  Upton doesn't hit for average, but for every extra hit that Ellsbury has, Upton has an extra walk.  Their SLG are similar, but the difference in AVG means that Upton has shown much more power.

I will take walks and XBH over singles every day of the week -- that BJU is younger, more durable and won't cost any prospects is merely icing on the cake.
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Posted: 10/12/2012 1:10 AM

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oct271986 wrote: You guys are looking in the wrong aisle of the store.   Check the discount section.

Think Travis Buck or Rick Ankiel.

He's wanting to shop at Macy's...the rest of us are shopping at the Salvation Army...

The dreaded sig of doom has chosen future hall of famer Jason Heyward as its target.

May the baseball gods have mercy on your soul!

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Posted: 10/12/2012 6:55 AM

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RSVandy wrote: Nah, I think that it'll be more like Timo Perez or Jay Payton, get someone out of retirement. Ankiel is too expensive!
And your new 2013 Left Fielder is......wait for it.....Benny Agbayani!
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