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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:31 PM
2013 Free Agents
Tried to copy and paste but it looked awful, so I'll try this in dribs&drabs , and asterik means a club option Catchers Rod Barajas * Henry Blanco * Koyie Hill Gerald Laird Russell Martin Brian McCann * Jose Molina * Mike Napoli Wil Nieves Miguel Olivo * Ronny Paulino A.J. Pierzynski Humberto Quintero David Ross Carlos Ruiz * Brian Schneider Kelly Shoppach Chris Snyder * Yorvit Torrealba Matt Treanor *
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:32 PM
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Outfielders Bobby Abreu Alfredo Amegaza Rick Ankiel Michael Bourn Marlon Byrd Melky Cabrera Johnny Damon Matt Diaz Kosuke Fukudome Jonny Gomes Curtis Granderson * Scott Hairston Josh Hamilton Eric Hinske Torii Hunter Raul Ibanez Reed Johnson Andruw Jones Carlos Lee Ryan Ludwick * Hideki Matsui Xavier Nady Angel Pagan Juan Pierre Juan Rivera * Cody Ross Luke Scott * Grady Sizemore Ryan Spilborghs Ichiro Suzuki Nick Swisher B.J. Upton Shane Victorino Reggie Willits Delmon Young
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:33 PM
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Starting Pitchers Scott Baker * Erik Bedard Joe Blanton Bartolo Colon Aaron Cook Kevin Correia Jorge De La Rosa * Ryan Dempster R.A. Dickey * Scott Feldman * Gavin Floyd * Jeff Francis Freddy Garcia Zack Greinke Jeremy Guthrie Rich Harden Dan Haren * Roberto Hernandez * Tim Hudson * Edwin Jackson Hiroki Kuroda Colby Lewis Francisco Liriano Kyle Lohse Derek Lowe Paul Maholm * Shaun Marcum Jason Marquis Daisuke Matsuzaka Brandon McCarthy Kevin Millwood Jamie Moyer Roy Oswalt Carl Pavano Jake Peavy * Anibal Sanchez Jonathan Sanchez Ervin Santana * Joe Saunders James Shields * Carlos Villanueva Chien-Ming Wang Kip Wells Randy Wolf Chris Young Carlos Zambrano
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:34 PM
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Relief Pitchers David Aardsma Jeremy Accardo Mike Adams Jeremy Affeldt Luis Ayala Grant Balfour * Miguel Batista Matt Belisle Rafael Betancourt * Jonathan Broxton Taylor Buchholz Sean Burnett * Tim Byrdak Shawn Camp Matt Capps * D.J. Carrasco Randy Choate Todd Coffey * Jose Contreras * Francisco Cordero Juan Cruz Octavio Dotel Chad Durbin Kyle Farnsworth Pedro Feliciano * Jason Frasor Brian Fuentes * Mike Gonzalez Sean Green Kevin Gregg * Jason Grilli LaTroy Hawkins Clay Hensley Livan Hernandez J.P. Howell Hong-Chih Kuo Casey Janssen Bobby Jenks Brandon League Brad Lidge Matt Lindstrom * Mark Lowe Brandon Lyon Ryan Madson Shawn Marshall Dustin McGowan Guillermo Mota Peter Moylan Brett Myers * Pat Neshek Will Ohman Darren Oliver * Juan Carlos Oviedo (aka Leo Nunez) Vicente Padilla Tony Pena Brad Penny Joel Peralta J.J. Putz * Chad Qualls Ramon Ramirez Jon Rauch Francisco Rodriguez Mariano Rivera Fernando Rodney J.C. Romero Takashi Saito Joakim Soria * Rafael Soriano * Hisanori Takahashi Robinson Tejeda Jose Valverde Carlos Villanueva Jamey Wright
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:35 PM
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First Basemen Lance Berkman Jason Giambi Travis Hafner * Eric Hinske Aubrey Huff* Casey Kotchman Adam LaRoche * Carlos Lee James Loney Xavier Nady Mike Napoli David Ortiz Lyle Overbay Carlos Pena Jim Thome Ty Wigginton *
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:35 PM
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Second Basemen Jeff Baker Robinson Cano * Mike Fontenot Orlando Hudson * Maicer Izturis Kelly Johnson Adam Kennedy Jeff Keppinger Jose Lopez Freddy Sanchez Ryan Theriot
Shortstops Jason Bartlett * Yuniesky Betancourt Geoff Blum Ronny Cedeno Stephen Drew * Alex Gonzalez * Cesar Izturis Jhonny Peralta * Luis Rodriguez Marco Scutaro Omar Vizquel Jack Wilson
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:36 PM
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Third Basemen Geoff Blum Miguel Cairo Eric Chavez Mark DeRosa Brandon Inge * Maicer Izturis Chipper Jones * Kevin Kouzmanoff Jose Lopez Placido Polanco * Mark Reynolds * Scott Rolen Ty Wigginton David Wright * Kevin Youkilis *
Link: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cot s/?page_id=177
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:39 PM
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I'm thinking the guy with the alias should be our closer. Juan Carlos Oviedo (aka Leo Nunez)
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:58 PM
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Some of this is out of date, but there are some interesting relievers. Hopefully the Mets can sign someone like Mike Adams.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 5:04 PM
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I wonder if we can get Victorino on a cheap deal? He was great in 2011.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:30 PM
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Giambi is still playing?
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:40 PM
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RSVandy wrote: Some of this is out of date, but there are some interesting relievers. Hopefully the Mets can sign someone like Mike Adams. There are definitely some quality relievers there. They will probably wait though and hope someone falls to them, that's been the philosophy for a while.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:00 PM
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if he's going to have to take a 1 yr deal, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mets take a long look at MelkyCab if they could find a way to squeeze him into the budget.
"Maybe it's time to make some moves." - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 10/7/2012 3:15 AM
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RSVandy wrote: Some of this is out of date, but there are some interesting relievers. Hopefully the Mets can sign someone like Mike Adams. Who is going to undergo shoulder surgery soon and probably miss significant parts of the 2013 season with no guarantee he ever goes back. Again, the problem with signing free agent relievers is that they usually have already pitched their best Baseball before they became eligible. Adams has been heavily used over the past 4-5 years and probably doesn´t have much left. It´d be similar to signing Turk Wendell after the 2000 season. Good bullpens are built from within. Plus maybe take a 1-year contract type flyer on a couple of cheap veterans coming off down years and hope you get lucky with a bounceback season. Except for a closer (if you don´t have one), paying any other reliever more than 3 million $ in any given year makes very little sense. And multi-year deals to relievers make even less sense. Please name 3 relievers on current playoff teams that aren´t closers and were signed to multi-year deals as free agents. Good luck, you won´t find them. Besides, the Mets apparently have no payroll flexibility this winter for one final year, so I´d expect the few remaining assets being invested into upgrading the OF & C.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 7:22 AM
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I have always like Cody Ross & Jeremy Affeldt.
Ross can play any OF position well, has power and would fit in behind Ike in the 5 hole (we shold also re-sign Hairston to platoon with Duda in LF).
Affeldt has been a steady LHed reliever for years who we have overlooked. Also, Mr. Pagan is better than anything we have in CF.
Why not Shoppach (he would have to come in in better shape) with Josh as the backup.
Angel, Ruben, Daniel, David, Ike, Cody, Duda/Scott, Kelly.
Last edited 10/7/2012 7:23 AM by sixcabs
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Posted: 10/7/2012 8:37 AM
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"Please name 3 relievers on current playoff teams that aren´t closers and were signed to multi-year deals as free agents. Good luck, you won´t find them. "
NYY Rafael Soriano* NYY Pedro Feliciano DET Joaquín Benoit SFG Javier López SFG Jeremy Affeldt CIN Aroldis Chapman **
But, then teams like Philly, Miami, Anaheim, LA, the White Sox, and Rays, who thought they were going to be in the 2012 post-season also had some:
PHI José Contreras MIA Randy Choate LAD Matt Guerrier LAA Scott Downs CHW Matt Thornton CHW Jesse Crain CHW Will Ohman TBR Kyle Farnsworth
To me it looks like, generally, teams with money to spend are the ones who are likely to hand some multi-year deals to relief pitchers-- and that makes some sense. Once you've spent about as much as you can elsewhere and you still got a pile of cash left, why not head into the high risk areas?
That said, obviously the Mets aren't there yet and they should still be spending their money in more sensible areas...
* He was a closer when he signed, but wasn't signed to be a closer ** Was not used as a closer until the third year of his deal
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Posted: 10/7/2012 9:42 AM
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Would not have minded Cody Ross, but he's now signed for 2013. Cheap too, $3,000,000. Even the Coupons could have fit that in.
Edit: That site shows 2013 FA status as "signed" but that was apparently last year's contract. Though the Sox have said they want him back, he's still out there.
Last edited 10/7/2012 9:49 AM by danfran
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Posted: 10/7/2012 10:06 AM
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--------------------------------------------- --- erosen wrote:
"Please name 3 relievers on current playoff teams that aren´t closers and were signed to multi-year deals as free agents. Good luck, you won´t find them. "
NYY Rafael Soriano* NYY Pedro Feliciano DET Joaquín Benoit SFG Javier López SFG Jeremy Affeldt CIN Aroldis Chapman **
But, then teams like Philly, Miami, Anaheim, LA, the White Sox, and Rays, who thought they were going to be in the 2012 post-season also had some:
PHI José Contreras MIA Randy Choate LAD Matt Guerrier LAA Scott Downs CHW Matt Thornton CHW Jesse Crain CHW Will Ohman TBR Kyle Farnsworth
To me it looks like, generally, teams with money to spend are the ones who are likely to hand some multi-year deals to relief pitchers-- and that makes some sense. Once you've spent about as much as you can elsewhere and you still got a pile of cash left, why not head into the high risk areas?
That said, obviously the Mets aren't there yet and they should still be spending their money in more sensible areas...
* He was a closer when he signed, but wasn't signed to be a closer ** Was not used as a closer until the third year of his deal
--------------------------------------------- Chapman was a costly International Free Agent but wasn't signed as a veteran free agent, so he doesn't fit. Soriano was awful in 2011, at least compared to his salary. Benoît has given up 14 HR in 72 IP. Feliciano has missed two years and isn't on a playoff roster. López is a classic LOOGY like Byrdak. Affeldt has been a fine crossover reliever. Still, fact is, the vast majority of relievers in good pens has been homegrown.
So even with a budget of 120 million, it'd make little sense spending it on free agent setup relievers...
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Posted: 10/7/2012 10:31 AM
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http://www.baseball-reference....affelje01.shtmlLook at Affeldt's last 6 years as a setup man. Anyone even close on the Mets? Sometimes it's the small deals for solid players who make a difference; not the big splash, big money headline maker.
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Posted: 10/15/2012 3:10 PM
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How about kicking the Braves in the nuts by signing Brian McCann catcher. He's good defensively, calls a great game for pitchers, and has serious power @ the plate ?
Go Mets...Cyborg
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