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Posted: 10/3/2012 2:58 PM

Sandy Alderson's state of the team address 


If no one else is going to post on this topic, I guess I'll get it started............

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2012/10/mets_gene ral_manager_sandy_ald_11.html


"Mets general manager sandy alderson sets signing david wright, r.a. dickey as november priorities     October 03, 2012, 2:26 PM  Andy McCullough/The Star-Ledger

MIAMI – Greetings from the final day of the 2012 Mets season. General manager Sandy Alderson just offered a state of the team address as he heads into what figures to be a busy offseason.

The highlights:

1. Extending both David Wright and R.A. Dickey is his highest priority. With the specter of the Madoff lawsuit gone, Alderson believes his team has the cash to do it. That was not the case last winter with former shortstop Jose Reyes, he said.

2. Those conversations should begin shortly after the season ends. Alderson hopes to resolve the negotiations quickly. Otherwise, he will have to explore options on the trade market with both players in December.

3. Alderson does not expect an increase in payroll. He set this season’s number at $100 million, but that’s including non-roster players on the 40-man roster and Francisco Rodriguez’s $3 million buyout.

4. Alderson said he does not feel he needs to “blow up the team and start over again.” He followed that up by saying you could over-turn 70 percent of any team without causing much of a hiccup. So time will tell on that.

Here’s the transcript from a 25-minute session. Keep refreshing for updates:

“Overall, a disappointing season. We had some positive things, I think, but overall inconsistency. Certainly disappointed with the won-loss record. Lots of inconsistencies, first half/second half, home/road, individual performances. All of which I think led to the record that we will have after today’s game.

“So the first half was of course positive. I think we exceeded many expectations. I thought that we played as well as we had expected coming out of spring training. For a variety of reasons, some of which are only hypotheses at this point, they’re not actual explanations, we did not play well in the second half.

“There were a variety of things that happened. I’ll go back and probably point to four or five things. But ultimately, the second half was similar to the second half we’ve had over the last several years. I think if there’s one consistency among those four that we’ve been able to determine it’s that we really did not see significant contributions from additional players over the second half of any of those season.

“Inevitably, you have injuries and other things that happen, maybe subpar performance. It’s nice to have somebody come in and take up the slack. And we had a couple people who had good second halves. We saw the emergence of Matt Harvey. Ike Davis played well in the second half. But overall, that wasn’t the case.

“Lots of positive things did happen. I think we’ll start with R.A. Dickey, I guess, and David Wright. Jon Niese had an excellent season for us. Parnell out of the ‘pen was good. Chris Young finished well. We saw Harvey emerge, some other young players emerge. So I think there’s some positives from the season, certainly. I take all of those as positives.

“The thing we’re trying to do here is three-fold: One is build through our farm system. The second is to retain our core players. And the third, really, is to add free agents and trade acquisitions on a fairly judicious basis. I would say over the first couple years, we’ve certainly looked to the farm system. Obviously not totally successful. We really have not, until now, been in a position to retain our core players. Which is the second prong of this approach. I think we’re in that place now.

“Then the third, we really have not been able to be involved significantly in the free-agent market. We certainly have brought in players on a free-agent basis. But in terms of significant acquisitions, it’s somewhat limited. But I can see that changing, perhaps not immediately, but somewhere in the near-term.

“So from my standpoint, many positives. But overall, a disappointing year.”

Are you looking to make a more significant number of trades and free-agent signings than in years past?

“Well, I think that it’s possible, given what we have, that we’ll be more active in the trade market. But that’s not a given necessarily. I mean, I really do believe that some of our players are on the verge of making bigger contributions. But it’s been two years. We have a better idea now of who we have at the major-league level, who’s coming from our player-development system, and the places where we need to look outside.

“There are a couple of obvious needs that we have. So it’s very possible that we’ll be more active in the trade market, as well as potentially in the free-agent market. But I don’t want to give the impression that we’ll be out in the free-agent market, looking for significant additions. We have lots of payroll tied up in a handful of players.

“That’s a situation that gradually has to resolve itself. We’re not really at that point.”

Who are the core players?

“The two that are popularly referenced are David Wright and R.A. Dickey. What we said over the last couple of months is we’re going to make every effort to retain those two guys. And I think we are in a position to be able to do that. Whether we are successful or not, time will tell. But I think we’re in a position to make a bona fide effort to do it. So I’m happy about that.”




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Last edited 10/3/2012 3:01 PM by nickel7168

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Posted: 10/3/2012 3:04 PM

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Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 3:05 PM

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danfran wrote: Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
A's did a pretty fair job of finding value in the OF... and that's even after letting Willingham and DeJesus walk.
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 10/3/2012 3:28 PM

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nickel7168 wrote:
1. Extending both David Wright and R.A. Dickey is his highest priority. With the specter of the Madoff lawsuit gone, Alderson believes his team has the cash to do it. That was not the case last winter with former shortstop Jose Reyes, he said.
eek

I am about to flip out.

You all know why. 

He said last year it was a baseball decision and that Madoff had no impact. 

I can't even begin to express how much this infuriates me. Why didn't he just tell the truth a year ago? Why didn't they trade him a year and a half ago if they knew they wouldn't have the money? 

Wow.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:09 PM

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No raise in payroll...yet another season where 50% of the budget is dedicated to Santana and Bay!
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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:14 PM

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--- BelieveInMetsMagic wrote:


nickel7168 wrote:
1. Extending both David Wright and R.A. Dickey is his highest priority. With the specter of the Madoff lawsuit gone, Alderson believes his team has the cash to do it. That was not the case last winter with former shortstop Jose Reyes, he said.
eek

I am about to flip out.

You all know why. 

He said last year it was a baseball decision and that Madoff had no impact. 

I can't even begin to express how much this infuriates me. Why didn't he just tell the truth a year ago? Why didn't they trade him a year and a half ago if they knew they wouldn't have the money? 

Wow.

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I guess the reason is you don't want to throw your boss (owner) under the bus - as much as we fans would like to see it.

While we'll never know in all likelihood, I still firmly believe the plan in late July 2011 still was to make a legit attempt to keep Reyes - under the assumption that the 2012 budget was going to be in the 110 to 115 million $ range.
While the reccurring leg injuries and somewhat underwhelming 2nd half might have created doubts, the Picard lawsuit, the failed Einhorn sale and extreme liquidity issues in all likelihood decreased the odds to keep Reyes from 50-50 to a half hearted effort in the 10% range.

I repeat myself: The target Year remains and has always been 2014.
That leaves 18 months to turn the pitching staff into a strength and improve offense & defense to average or better...
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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:29 PM

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DuffyDyer wrote:
danfran wrote: Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
A's did a pretty fair job of finding value in the OF... and that's even after letting Willingham and DeJesus walk.
A's apparently have competent management. Don't know yet if we do. Jury's still out and early returns off of last year aren't promising.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:54 PM

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--- danfran wrote:


DuffyDyer wrote:
danfran wrote: Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
A's did a pretty fair job of finding value in the OF... and that's even after letting Willingham and DeJesus walk.
A's apparently have competent management. Don't know yet if we do. Jury's still out and early returns off of last year aren't promising.

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Well, Cespedes & Crisp alone are making several millions more in 2012 than the Mets entire group of signings last winter. And the A's have been in a 5 year rebuilding too - albeit with zero pressure. That said Beane & Co had themselves a great off-season.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 4:58 PM

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DrDooby wrote:

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--- BelieveInMetsMagic wrote:


nickel7168 wrote:
1. Extending both David Wright and R.A. Dickey is his highest priority. With the specter of the Madoff lawsuit gone, Alderson believes his team has the cash to do it. That was not the case last winter with former shortstop Jose Reyes, he said.
eek

I am about to flip out.

You all know why. 

He said last year it was a baseball decision and that Madoff had no impact. 

I can't even begin to express how much this infuriates me. Why didn't he just tell the truth a year ago? Why didn't they trade him a year and a half ago if they knew they wouldn't have the money? 

Wow.

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I guess the reason is you don't want to throw your boss (owner) under the bus - as much as we fans would like to see it.

While we'll never know in all likelihood, I still firmly believe the plan in late July 2011 still was to make a legit attempt to keep Reyes - under the assumption that the 2012 budget was going to be in the 110 to 115 million $ range.
While the reccurring leg injuries and somewhat underwhelming 2nd half might have created doubts, the Picard lawsuit, the failed Einhorn sale and extreme liquidity issues in all likelihood decreased the odds to keep Reyes from 50-50 to a half hearted effort in the 10% range.

I repeat myself: The target Year remains and has always been 2014.
That leaves 18 months to turn the pitching staff into a strength and improve offense & defense to average or better...
You can't just turn the light switch on in 2014. You are going to have to see marked improvement in 2013 if 2014 is going to be the "target" year. With the way this season went..I remain skeptical. Sandy has a LOT of work to do this offseason. I expect to see a much different team in 2013.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 5:27 PM

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There' s a very realistic scenario that you just have to leave the pitching alone to field a well above average pitching staff by 2014.
The outfield & C need a lot of attention & change, of course.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 7:13 PM

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RSVandy wrote: No raise in payroll...yet another season where 50% of the budget is dedicated to Santana and Bay!

It will only be 41%.  From the Rodriguez buyout quote it looks like the $8.5 mil buyouts will count towards the 2014 payroll.  Of course that would mean around $50 mil tied up between the buyouts, Wright, Dickey and Niese if they are re-signed...
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Posted: 10/3/2012 7:54 PM

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DrDooby wrote:

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--- danfran wrote:


DuffyDyer wrote:
danfran wrote: Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
A's did a pretty fair job of finding value in the OF... and that's even after letting Willingham and DeJesus walk.
A's apparently have competent management. Don't know yet if we do. Jury's still out and early returns off of last year aren't promising.

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Well, Cespedes & Crisp alone are making several millions more in 2012 than the Mets entire group of signings last winter. And the A's have been in a 5 year rebuilding too - albeit with zero pressure. That said Beane & Co had themselves a great off-season.
Mets never seem to get involved with the top foreign players.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 7:59 PM

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danfran wrote:
DrDooby wrote:

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--- danfran wrote:


DuffyDyer wrote:
danfran wrote: Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
A's did a pretty fair job of finding value in the OF... and that's even after letting Willingham and DeJesus walk.
A's apparently have competent management. Don't know yet if we do. Jury's still out and early returns off of last year aren't promising.

---------------------------------------------

Well, Cespedes & Crisp alone are making several millions more in 2012 than the Mets entire group of signings last winter. And the A's have been in a 5 year rebuilding too - albeit with zero pressure. That said Beane & Co had themselves a great off-season.
Mets never seem to get involved with the top foreign players.



devil


17 & 14 = Best Duo In NY Sports
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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:04 PM

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acesfull86 wrote:
danfran wrote:
DrDooby wrote:

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--- danfran wrote:


DuffyDyer wrote:
danfran wrote: Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
A's did a pretty fair job of finding value in the OF... and that's even after letting Willingham and DeJesus walk.
A's apparently have competent management. Don't know yet if we do. Jury's still out and early returns off of last year aren't promising.

---------------------------------------------

Well, Cespedes & Crisp alone are making several millions more in 2012 than the Mets entire group of signings last winter. And the A's have been in a 5 year rebuilding too - albeit with zero pressure. That said Beane & Co had themselves a great off-season.
Mets never seem to get involved with the top foreign players.



devil
He was so good they moved Reyes to 2B! eek1
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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:05 PM

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Actually, that one ranks up there in Met annals with re-teaching Reyes how to run. That wacky Met FO.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:09 PM

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No increase in payroll

Maybe 2010 offseason will be different X
2011 X
2012 appears to be X
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:14 PM

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NYSPORTS98 wrote: No increase in payroll

Maybe 2010 offseason will be different X
2011 X
2012 appears to be X
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
My baseball biological clock is ticking. biggrin
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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:38 PM

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acesfull86 wrote:
danfran wrote:
DrDooby wrote:

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--- danfran wrote:


DuffyDyer wrote:
danfran wrote: Sounds a little disappointing though not unexpected about the payroll. Hard to see them improving the OF that much with just trades.
A's did a pretty fair job of finding value in the OF... and that's even after letting Willingham and DeJesus walk.
A's apparently have competent management. Don't know yet if we do. Jury's still out and early returns off of last year aren't promising.

---------------------------------------------

Well, Cespedes & Crisp alone are making several millions more in 2012 than the Mets entire group of signings last winter. And the A's have been in a 5 year rebuilding too - albeit with zero pressure. That said Beane & Co had themselves a great off-season.
Mets never seem to get involved with the top foreign players.



devil
Couldn't find a Jorge Toca picture?

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Posted: 10/3/2012 8:55 PM

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In all seriousness, wasn't Kaz a big deal when he came over? Obviously he ended up being a bust, but he was in his prime coming off a .300/30 HR season (I think something like that) as a SS in Japan.  I don't remember all of the particulars...I've tried to burn it from my memory.


17 & 14 = Best Duo In NY Sports

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Posted: 10/3/2012 9:12 PM

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"He was so good they moved Reyes to 2B! eek1"

To be fair-- he was pretty damn special in the Japanese leagues.

He was the #3 overall pick in the 1994 draft as an 18 year old

He played there through age 27 and in over 5000 PA was .309/.361/.487 with 306 SB [84% success rate].  In seven seasons as a starter, he was voted for the 'Best Nine' award, which is an award for the best player at a given position, every season.

He won their equivalent of the Gold Glove four times and an MVP.
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