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2014 Free Agency: Cano Wants $305 Million

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Posted: 9/26/2013 5:14 PM

2014 Free Agency: Cano Wants $305 Million 


LoL, 10 year 305M deal

I don't think Yanks nor LA do that.

Absurd amount of money. Best 2nd baseman in baseball? Yes, and by a fair margin.

A Rod / Pujols good? Nope.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml...05-million-deal

Mejia 2014: 11 IP, 12.27 K/9, 4.09 ERA, 3.67 xFIP, 53.6% GB
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Posted: 9/26/2013 5:28 PM

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You mean Cano may not re-sign with the Yanks?  Sandy, this is your chance.  wink
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Posted: 9/26/2013 5:31 PM

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I wouldn't mind seeing Cano at 2B. Though $305 million is a lot. Plus they would have to give up the draft pick!!
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Posted: 9/26/2013 5:45 PM

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RSVandy wrote: I wouldn't mind seeing Cano at 2B. Though $305 million is a lot. Plus they would have to give up the draft pick!!


The Mets should totally shock the world and do it.  I mean, at this point, what do we have to lose?  (except for that draft pick)  biggrin
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Posted: 9/26/2013 5:50 PM

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I wouldn't pay half that price for Cano.  Good luck to him getting that much coin.  The market for him this winter figures to be limited.  He'll get paid, but I'll be shocked if he makes more than $200M.  Even that is too much imo.

Fortunately the odds of Sandy giving him even a seconds thought are slim to none.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 5:52 PM

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You wouldn't give him 150/10? or 150/5? The former would be a huge bargain. The latter, not so much.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:02 PM

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throughthewickets wrote: You wouldn't give him 150/10? or 150/5? The former would be a huge bargain. The latter, not so much.

Paying Cano until he's 41 is a bargain?  Can't say I agree with that at all.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:06 PM

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DocK16 wrote:
throughthewickets wrote: You wouldn't give him 150/10? or 150/5? The former would be a huge bargain. The latter, not so much.

Paying Cano until he's 41 is a bargain?  Can't say I agree with that at all.


The 150/10 would be a bargain, just like 150/8 would be a bargain.  Neither is going to happen.  But to lock up the best 2nd basemen in the game, steal a guy away from our crosstown rivals, he's worth every penny of that $150 million.  He'll likely get $240/10 and no chance we are players.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:07 PM

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It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:09 PM

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RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.


Did you factor in the hit for the draft pick?  All kidding aside, yeah 15 per would be super cheap to sign Cano.  The Yankees will ante up.  We all know how this story ends.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:10 PM

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RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:11 PM

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DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.


He's averaged over a .900 OPS the past three seasons, whilst playing Gold Glove caliber defense.  Are you being serious?

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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:12 PM

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DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.
They could always release him if he hasn't produced in three seasons. And, by then, $15 million wouldn't be as significant as it is today and he would have justified the contract 3 years prior. Those would be free seasons!
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:13 PM

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I'd even be willing to sign him to a 50 year/$150 million contract. biggrin
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:15 PM

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FIFAstar79 wrote:
DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.


He's averaged over a .900 OPS the past three seasons, whilst playing Gold Glove caliber defense.  Are you being serious?

I'm talking about his age 39-41 seasons, when we're still paying him $15M a year.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:15 PM

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RSVandy wrote: I'd even be willing to sign him to a 50 year/$150 million contract. biggrin


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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:16 PM

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DocK16 wrote:
FIFAstar79 wrote:
DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.


He's averaged over a .900 OPS the past three seasons, whilst playing Gold Glove caliber defense.  Are you being serious?

I'm talking about his age 39-41 seasons, when we're still paying him $15M a year.


You wouldn't commit $150 million to Cano, because you think he would be lousy the last three years?  Even 150/7 equals a little more than $21 million a year, which he will easily get (if not more).  $150 million and seven plus years under contract is a steal.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:19 PM

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RSVandy wrote:
DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.
They could always release him if he hasn't produced in three seasons. And, by then, $15 million wouldn't be as significant as it is today and he would have justified the contract 3 years prior. Those would be free seasons!

Not really.  It'd be equivalent to signing him for 7/150, which is much less a bargain.  We'd get him cheap now, but would be very expensive down the road.  We need to get away from throwing legacy contracts at post-prime players.  We already have one in Wright.  The next 2-3 years would be special, but after that we'd have another mess on our hands.

I guess we have to go through another cycle like the one experienced in '09 and '10, before the Wilpon financial meltdown happened, before everyone learns their lesson.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:22 PM

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FIFAstar79 wrote:
DocK16 wrote:
FIFAstar79 wrote:
DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.


He's averaged over a .900 OPS the past three seasons, whilst playing Gold Glove caliber defense.  Are you being serious?

I'm talking about his age 39-41 seasons, when we're still paying him $15M a year.


You wouldn't commit $150 million to Cano, because you think he would be lousy the last three years?  Even 150/7 equals a little more than $21 million a year, which he will easily get (if not more).  $150 million and seven plus years under contract is a steal.

I think he would be absolutely horrendous those last three seasons.  Are we assuming he's going to be an elite player through age 38?  Odds are, his decline is coming in the next 2-3 seasons, so realistically we're only getting 2-3 years at a "steal" price.  Beyond that, he's going to be anywhere from adequately priced (maybe a season or two), to poorly and horrendously priced.
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Posted: 9/26/2013 6:22 PM

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DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote:
DocK16 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: It probably would be a bargain overall. $15 million per year...that would barely be anything by the time he's 41. Plus he would probably justify the entire contract after 4 or so seasons.

It would be for a player who hasn't produced in 3 seasons.  $15M is still going to be a lot of money 10 years from now, especially for a player who is completely worthless.
They could always release him if he hasn't produced in three seasons. And, by then, $15 million wouldn't be as significant as it is today and he would have justified the contract 3 years prior. Those would be free seasons!

Not really.  It'd be equivalent to signing him for 7/150, which is much less a bargain.  We'd get him cheap now, but would be very expensive down the road.  We need to get away from throwing legacy contracts at post-prime players.  We already have one in Wright.  The next 2-3 years would be special, but after that we'd have another mess on our hands.

I guess we have to go through another cycle like the one experienced in '09 and '10, before the Wilpon financial meltdown happened, before everyone learns their lesson.


Getting a guy like Cano would boost this lineup immensely and I don't see him declining in three years.  He is 30 now.  Perhaps by age 36 and 37, he starts to taper off.  It's hard not to think about Jeter over there at SS playing well into his late 30's.  I'd pay the $150 million to get a 6-7 solid years out of Cano.   None of the other FA's in this winter's crop or next winter's comes close.   If you can steal him from the Yanks for that, you have to do it.
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