Posted: 9/5/2013 11:04 AM
Gotta give credit where it's due.
Guy's been fantastic this year, ever since the start in The Bronx - really. Gee's first 10 starts:45.4 IP69 Hits 17 BB's/35 K's 8 HR's Allowed6.34 ERAOver his Last 18 Starts:123.2 innings 110 Hits26 BB's/87 K's 14 HR's Allowed2.40 ERAI can't say I expected this kind of turn-around, even if he did need time to recover from last year's blood clot issue, etc.He's certainly done his thing in 2013, to the point where he could be considered as one of the N.L.'s best over that stretch.With that in mind, I do feel the Mets would be in pretty big trouble next year -- provided they couldn't count on him for the type of innings he's provided to date (even if they're not of such high quality - 173.1 IP [and counting] to date is nothing to sneeze at, with any member of the Met staff through the years).IMHO - He's one of those guys right now, where his value to the Mets is likely worth a world more than it'd be to someone looking for his kind of services.
Best of luck going forward, Mr. Gee. This rotation's gonna need ya.
"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan
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dcmets wrote: There are many who should eat crow on him, too; I wont name names.
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AUDIT wrote: Yes, he has really been good. Probably the most dependable Met starter. I like him a lot.So......let's trade him!Sound crazy? He has value. Or rather, perhaps next year his overall stats will look good and he will have more value. Ya gotta give up something to get something, and it is best to optimize the market value of players. That is, provided Gee has good market value. If he doesn't, or if his value to the Mets far exceeds his market value in any trade, then that is a different story.I would certainly entertain offers for Gee this winter if it can bring back some offense. However, IMO he may have greater market value if he can put up some good numbers the early part to first half of 2014. If somebody were to look at his overall stats for this year, Gee would be undervalued. But if they were to look at what Gee has done Since May 30, that is a lot different.The goal should be to optimize his value.Why trade Gee in particular? First, ya gotta start moving some SPs with the likes of Montero and Syndergaard in the wings. Second, apart from Harvey and the potential of Wheeler and Syndergaard, Gee has the most value. Less upside than somebody like Syndergaard, but less downside risk and a more immediate return.
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dcmets wrote: I would try to trade him. His value will never be as good as it is now, and we dont really need him for the back end of the rotation. I agree with thethe that he would be a keeper if he was giving us these numbers, but I dont see him duplicating this next year.
Posted: 9/5/2013 12:27 PM
dcmets wrote: Teams really missed out on Byrd and Gee, IMO. They would have been worth 3-4 wins. Gee has very curious numbers. For some reason, he owns the Braves and Nats. That's obviously a good thing because he has almost 10 starts a year against them. But, the Phillies own him.
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MetsBeast wrote: I think it's possible that part of the model of this FO is to produce a ton of these #3-#5 starter types, keep them for 3-4 years, and then trade them when they get expensive and bring up the next guy. That being said, I'm not sure the Mets are quite ready yet to deal Gee (who at times has pitched better than a #3--although it will be tempting if his value ends up very high. I could definitely see them keeping him another year and then trading him in the offseason.Anyway, he's been very impressive. Good job by the Mets drafting and developing a guy who apparently really knows how to pitch.
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RSVandy wrote: I wouldn't trade Gee yet unless of course some great trade comes around. I'd keep him as the #3/4 starter. His ERA+ is 102 and his FIP is 4.11. Very solid. Next season is his first year of arbitration, too.
Posted: 9/5/2013 1:53 PM
MookieLJL wrote: RSVandy wrote: I wouldn't trade Gee yet unless of course some great trade comes around. I'd keep him as the #3/4 starter. His ERA+ is 102 and his FIP is 4.11. Very solid. Next season is his first year of arbitration, too.This is my thinking as well. Keep him during his cheap years and let someone else overpay him when he gets to FA. Unless, of course, someone offers you something crazy in a trade but I dont see that happening.
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EddyBarzoon wrote: MookieLJL wrote: RSVandy wrote: I wouldn't trade Gee yet unless of course some great trade comes around. I'd keep him as the #3/4 starter. His ERA+ is 102 and his FIP is 4.11. Very solid. Next season is his first year of arbitration, too.This is my thinking as well. Keep him during his cheap years and let someone else overpay him when he gets to FA. Unless, of course, someone offers you something crazy in a trade but I dont see that happening.I wouldn't trade him either. He's been pretty solid in a year where we haven't had many solid players. Totally against this idea of trading guys that make this a better team. It becomes a revolving door of mediocrity in hoping you are getting something better for what you're dealing. Gee can pitch for a playoff bound team, and if this is the goal in NY then you hang on to him.