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Sandy: Mets in position to add vets soon; new faces coming

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Posted: 6/15/2013 12:47 PM

Sandy: Mets in position to add vets soon; new faces coming 


This morning at Citi Field, Sandy Alderson, Terry Collins, Matt Harvey, Dillon Gee, John Buck, Bobby Parnell and Howie Rose participated in a Q&A session with fans.

Alderson said the organization is at the stage when they can begin adding veteran talent to the big league club, now that some of their young talent has emerged or is emerging from the farm system.

Alderson described the stage as a shift in organizational planning, and they will begin to seriously pursue talent from outside the organization within the next six months.

Alderson noted the organization has invested a lot of money in players with very little return, but assured fans they were through doing that.

There will be some “different faces” brought to the Mets between now and the All-Star break, Alderson said. He did not say whether those players would be from inside or outside the organization.

Alderson said there would be “larger amounts of money” to invest in veterans in the short-term, noting in order to be a good team, risk-taking is necessary.

http://metsblog.com/metsblog/r...hin-six-months/

Please keep the gloom and doom, Sandy is disingenuous talk out of this thread.  It will be deleted.

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Posted: 6/15/2013 12:52 PM

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I assume the different faces he referred to will be prospects and possibly Ankiel types, not necessarily key cogs coming from outside of the organization.  Odds are, the big stuff will happen in the off-season.

From the link above:

Cesar Puello currently has a dislocated finger, but his status on the 40-man roster makes him a possibility to join the Mets at some point this season, Alderson explained. He also said they can call up Wilmer Flores at, “any time.”

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Posted: 6/15/2013 12:57 PM

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DocK16 wrote: I assume the different faces he referred to will be prospects and possibly Ankiel types, not necessarily key cogs coming from outside of the organization.  Odds are, the big stuff will happen in the off-season.

From the link above:

Cesar Puello currently has a dislocated finger, but his status on the 40-man roster makes him a possibility to join the Mets at some point this season, Alderson explained. He also said they can call up Wilmer Flores at, “any time.”
I could see us making one or two small moves this summer for players who would be available for multiple years on their contracts.  The rest, I expect will come this offseason.

The dreaded sig of doom has chosen future hall of famer Jason Heyward as its target.

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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:05 PM

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A couple of bullpen pieces.  I don't want to be acquiring players under the trade deadline gun. It's an easy way to overpay in prospects. If you do, It had better be a longer term piece like Cargo or Stanton.
Mets trade away reigning CY Young award winner.
Still have the best pitcher in Baseball.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:05 PM

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Reyes should be ready to play soon. See if Toronto is interested.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:09 PM

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DocK16 wrote: I assume the different faces he referred to will be prospects and possibly Ankiel types, not necessarily key cogs coming from outside of the organization.  Odds are, the big stuff will happen in the off-season.


I would agree that the odds favor bigger moves happening in the offseason, but more due to the lack of significant players being available, not an unwillingness on SA's part to do a deal. How teams play over the next month will play a large part in that; right now the teams that are out of it don't match up well with us in terms of OFs on the right side of 31 and the motivation to trade them.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:28 PM

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Yeah, I don't think that they're going to be able to add a significant piece from outside the organization right now, unless maybe if some team like the Dodgers or Toronto is willing to dump an Ethier, Dickey, Reyes, etc.

Maybe the Mets can add Soriano from the Cubs. I think that is something that a lot of Mets fans would be happy with.

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Posted: 6/15/2013 1:37 PM

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More Sandy excerpts from Rubin's piece:

"I do believe that over the next six months or so we will be in position to make some significant acquisitions, whether it's through free agency or trade," Alderson said during a question and answer session with season ticket holders. "We're certainly looking forward to that possibility."

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"We're working at it. The problem is, at some point, the best thing you can do is have a little patience," Alderson said. "Unfortunately, I've been preaching that for two-and-a-half years and it's wearing thin. But we're almost there."

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"There's no question that unfortunately for a variety of reasons we have a lot of money invested and have not gotten a significant return on that investment. I've said since I got here that we have to work our way through it," Alderson said. "The fact is we have just about worked our way through it. By the end of the season we will have more opportunities to acquire the type of players who will sustain and make us successful than we've had to acquire the last couple of years."

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Posted: 6/15/2013 2:20 PM

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Perhaps Alderson should specifically tell us what players he is going to target and what he is willing to pay or give up for those players. That way there can be more open communication between him and the fans.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 2:23 PM

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Oh, I don't think Sandy is being disingenuous. What is he really saying though? The 3rd worst team in baseball, with one of the worst rosters in baseball, is going to bring in faces from outside and spend some money? Duh. This is not news. From a marketing perspective, they have to bring some major league talent in here to fight the serious downward trend in attendance. It's necessary to do this if they want to compete in the coming years so this is not a revelation; but Met fans are annoyed the last 2 years were allowed to be wasted.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 3:24 PM

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Oh, I don't think Sandy is being disingenuous. What is he really saying though? The 3rd worst team in baseball, with one of the worst rosters in baseball, is going to bring in faces from outside and spend some money? Duh. This is not news. From a marketing perspective, they have to bring some major league talent in here to fight the serious downward trend in attendance. It's necessary to do this if they want to compete in the coming years so this is not a revelation; but Met fans are annoyed the last 2 years were allowed to be wasted.

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To me, he's saying there's light at the end of tunnel. That's a significant announcement IMO. Granted, we all assumed it was coming but now it seems almost official.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 4:01 PM

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It's nice to hear, and I don't doubt anything he said, but I think we need to parse his words carefully, bearing in mind he is a lawyer by training. It's June, so any free-agent spending or trades that involve a significant financial obligation "over the next six months" is more about after season's end than anything in-season designed to measurably improve the 2013 squad. I think the "different faces" we'll see between now and the ASB will be minor leaguers and/or role player types scavenged off other rosters. We're not the only team facing a 40-man numbers crunch, so another team's trash might become our treasure.

In other words, it's basically what we have expected all along. We'll be scraping by until the Bay and Santana contracts go away, but will at that point make some significant investments. I hope I'm not being overly doom and gloom when I say that we'll have to see just how much of the expiring monies are freed up for reinvestment.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 4:04 PM

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I would be happy if they will start DFA the likes of Lyon, Hawkins, Burke and sent Duda to the minors too.

 

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Posted: 6/15/2013 5:21 PM

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At a minimum......if SA can mix up the faces on the current roster within the season without doing anything that will put the prospects at risk, then may as well go and get after it.    Duda has not distinguished himself, so his experience is likely coming to an end.....something I don't think anyone will lose sleep over.    This roster is not what the fanbase wants to put up with the rest of the season......even though Lagares looks like he might be able to bring something to the table.   


I think it's a message that SA had to share.    I could see them adding an OF piece during the season.    Maybe they can mix up the bullpen a little if they decide to send off a prospect.....although I would prefer if they just focused on the position players, first.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 6:54 PM

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yanivmets wrote: I would be happy if they will start DFA the likes of Lyon, Hawkins, Burke and sent Duda to the minors too.
And then replace them with even worse players?
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Posted: 6/15/2013 6:54 PM

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DocK16 wrote:

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Oh, I don't think Sandy is being disingenuous. What is he really saying though? The 3rd worst team in baseball, with one of the worst rosters in baseball, is going to bring in faces from outside and spend some money? Duh. This is not news. From a marketing perspective, they have to bring some major league talent in here to fight the serious downward trend in attendance. It's necessary to do this if they want to compete in the coming years so this is not a revelation; but Met fans are annoyed the last 2 years were allowed to be wasted.

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To me, he's saying there's light at the end of tunnel. That's a significant announcement IMO. Granted, we all assumed it was coming but now it seems almost official.
Agreed.  What he is saying is that the worst is over and it is time to start adding productive players to the mix.  The likes of Kirk and Hawkins, etc, are on the way out and MLB level players are on the way in.  

I expect them to pick up one outfielder at the trade deadline and then another via free agency.  Also, I would expect to see one bullpen arm come at the trade deadline.

With that said, I am a little worried that the borderline players have played so poorly that they are making it more likely that someone of quality will end up leaving via trade, even in a salary dump.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 7:40 PM

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Well here's a 'new face.' Carlos Torres up, Burke down to AAA, McHugh is DFA.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 8:08 PM

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Kind of a surprise, Mchugh has pitched pretty well in the organization, though not at the majors.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 8:38 PM

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spiritOF86 wrote: Kind of a surprise, Mchugh has pitched pretty well in the organization, though not at the majors.
Will probably pass through waivers.
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Posted: 6/15/2013 8:39 PM

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RSVandy wrote: Well here's a 'new face.' Carlos Torres up, Burke down to AAA, McHugh is DFA.
Yeah, the handwriting was on the wall for that one.  He opted out of his contract and had interest from a couple other teams.  Had to bring him up or lose him.  Given that Vegas is a terrible place for pitchers, he has done fairly well.  Just hope he isn't the only "new face" we see.
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