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2-25-2013: Nationals @ Mets (PSL - SNY - 6pm)

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Posted: 2/25/2013 1:37 PM

2-25-2013: Nationals @ Mets (PSL - SNY - 6pm) 


Cowgill, CF
Tejada, SS
Wright, 3B
Davis, 1B
Byrd, RF
Hoffman, LF
Brown, DH
Buck, C
Flores, 2B

McHugh, P

Also slated to chuck: Gonzalez Germen, Scott Rice, Elvin Ramirez, Greg Burke.

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

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Posted: 2/25/2013 1:40 PM

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Hadn't seen much written up about this yesterday.  Usually, the media likes to fawn over Wilpon's Michigan ties, show David Wright in a Wolverines jersey, blah2 blah2 blah2

http://www.michigandaily.com/s...mets-exhibition


Also, the recap:

Port St. Lucie, FL (Sports Network) - Wilmer Flores hit a solo home run and Marlon Byrd added an RBI single, as the New York Mets took a 5-2 win over the University of Michigan in spring training play on Sunday.

Ruben Tejada hit a double and scored a run, while Brandon Hicks finished 2- for-3 with a double and two runs scored in the victory.

Dillon Gee, whose 2012 season ended in July after undergoing surgery to remove a blood clot in his shoulder, earned the win after replacing starter Jon Niese in the third inning. Both pitchers tossed two innings, with each striking out three and allowing an earned run on three hits.

Jacob Cronenworth had an RBI triple for Michigan, which sent Ben Ballantine to the hill for the start. He was tagged for three runs on five hits with four walks. In three innings of work, he struck out four and took the loss.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/201...l#storylink=cpy

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Posted: 2/25/2013 2:17 PM

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Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!
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Posted: 2/25/2013 2:22 PM

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Wilmer at 2b? I like.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 2:56 PM

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oct271986 wrote: Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!

I know. flushed
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Posted: 2/25/2013 3:02 PM

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I'm hoping there's going to be a lot of platooning out there, but I'm not sure Byrd isn't one of the best options we've got regardless.

I do want Valdespin to get about 300 ABs (pending performance, obviously -- especially defensively)

"Throw strikes, you dummy" ~ Buck O'Neil

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Posted: 2/25/2013 3:02 PM

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oct271986 wrote: Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!
I'm wondering how you arrive at "certainly" anything when we're still a week from March.
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 2/25/2013 5:21 PM

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DuffyDyer wrote:
oct271986 wrote: Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!
I'm wondering how you arrive at "certainly" anything when we're still a week from March.
On Saturday, the lineup contained all of the other Opening Day position players (except Murphy who is hurt) and he we are at Day 2 and Byrd is there again.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 5:35 PM

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omnimetfan wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote:
oct271986 wrote: Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!
I'm wondering how you arrive at "certainly" anything when we're still a week from March.
On Saturday, the lineup contained all of the other Opening Day position players (except Murphy who is hurt) and he we are at Day 2 and Byrd is there again.
you'll need to come up with something better than that to convince anyone there is a favorite for the RHed half of the RF platoon on Feb 25th.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 5:53 PM

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DuffyDyer wrote:
omnimetfan wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote:
oct271986 wrote: Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!
I'm wondering how you arrive at "certainly" anything when we're still a week from March.
On Saturday, the lineup contained all of the other Opening Day position players (except Murphy who is hurt) and he we are at Day 2 and Byrd is there again.
you'll need to come up with something better than that to convince anyone there is a favorite for the RHed half of the RF platoon on Feb 25th.
It's just as likely they are giving him the opportunity to "shine".
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:08 PM

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I'm hating how it seems as if d'Arnaud has no chance to make this team out of camp. It's somewhat alarming that a 24 year old, blue chip prospect who's already put up video game numbers at AAA won't have a chance to win a spot over John Buck. Not for nothing, this offense is a disgrace right now, probably bottom 5 in MLB, does anybody really care right now if TDA will be a FA in 2019 as opposed to 2020?
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:11 PM

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spiritOF86 wrote: I'm hating how it seems as if d'Arnaud has no chance to make this team out of camp. It's somewhat alarming that a 24 year old, blue chip prospect who's already put up video game numbers at AAA won't have a chance to win a spot over John Buck. Not for nothing, this offense is a disgrace right now, probably bottom 5 in MLB, does anybody really care right now if TDA will be a FA in 2019 as opposed to 2020?

Two (valid) reasons:

1. Delay his arbitration clock.

2. He missed the entire second half of last season with a knee injury.

No need to rush the kid.  I'm a firm believer that readiness and comfort level are important to a young player getting off to a positive start to their career (at any level, really).  Patience is a virtue in sports.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:18 PM

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DuffyDyer wrote:
omnimetfan wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote:
oct271986 wrote: Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!
I'm wondering how you arrive at "certainly" anything when we're still a week from March.
On Saturday, the lineup contained all of the other Opening Day position players (except Murphy who is hurt) and he we are at Day 2 and Byrd is there again.
you'll need to come up with something better than that to convince anyone there is a favorite for the RHed half of the RF platoon on Feb 25th.
I honestly do sense is M. Byrd's job to lose in RF... whether we agree w/ it or not.

I'm not really sure Brown is better. Admittedly early... I don't like what I see at the plate from him (more so batting stance/hand placement... again, early).

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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:20 PM

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spiritOF86 wrote: I'm hating how it seems as if d'Arnaud has no chance to make this team out of camp. It's somewhat alarming that a 24 year old, blue chip prospect who's already put up video game numbers at AAA won't have a chance to win a spot over John Buck. Not for nothing, this offense is a disgrace right now, probably bottom 5 in MLB, does anybody really care right now if TDA will be a FA in 2019 as opposed to 2020?
I'm glad Sandy does, especially considering he probably won't be the GM by then.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:20 PM

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I understand, and obviously SA probably knows this team is not going to compete for another season or 2, but this is his 3rd season here and this is probably the worst team he's put together so far, easily the worst lineup. Just another disappointment for me as a Mets fan I guess.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:26 PM

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Gstacks177 wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote:
omnimetfan wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote:
oct271986 wrote: Certainly feels like Marlon Byrd is going to be the primary RF. 

Managers love veterans!
I'm wondering how you arrive at "certainly" anything when we're still a week from March.
On Saturday, the lineup contained all of the other Opening Day position players (except Murphy who is hurt) and he we are at Day 2 and Byrd is there again.
you'll need to come up with something better than that to convince anyone there is a favorite for the RHed half of the RF platoon on Feb 25th.
Is honestly do sense is M. Byrd's job to lose in RF... whether we agree w/ it or not.

I'm not really sure Brown is better. Admittedly early... I don't like what I see at the plate from him (more so batting stance/hand placement... again, early).
I think this is more a case of them giving him a look so they can rule him out.  But it's as much that they are going to cycle thru all the candidates as anything and Byrd may get the first look since they have a history on him they can try to match up his current play against and see how far away he is from what he was 3 or 4 yrs ago.  I really think they would very much prefer that a guy like Hoffmann or Brown be this year's Mike Baxter rather than carry a guy like Byrd who they know is on his last legs.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:51 PM

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Wilmer looks fine at 2b. Guy is clearly a good athlete.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 7:07 PM

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spiritOF86 wrote: Wilmer looks fine at 2b. Guy is clearly a good athlete.
I'd love to find a way to have his bat in the lineup (even if it means only a few days a week).

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Posted: 2/25/2013 7:12 PM

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spiritOF86 wrote: Wilmer looks fine at 2b. Guy is clearly a good athlete.

But, every scout says he can't play the position.  Every sports analyst, he can't play 2B.  I've always said he could if doesn't grow out 2B.  Maybe, it's because I attended my first game at Ebbetts field in August 1955.  Let's just say I've seen 1 or 2 players at 2B.  He's agood athlete for the same reason as Larry Bird --  Good peripheral vision and great hands.

He needs 2 months to learn the position.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 7:28 PM

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Alexandre62 wrote:
spiritOF86 wrote: Wilmer looks fine at 2b. Guy is clearly a good athlete.

But, every scout says he can't play the position.  Every sports analyst, he can't play 2B.  I've always said he could if doesn't grow out 2B.  Maybe, it's because I attended my first game at Ebbetts field in August 1955.  Let's just say I've seen 1 or 2 players at 2B.  He's agood athlete for the same reason as Larry Bird --  Good peripheral vision and great hands.

He needs 2 months to learn the position.
He most certainly can play 2b. If somebody can play more then adequate SS in the minors while basically being the youngest player in the league I have a hard time believing that guy is incapable of playing any other position. For comparison, in 2011 as an 18 year old in high A Wilmer made 20 errors in 129 games. That same year, in the same league, 21 year old Andrelton Simmons made 28 errors in 129 games. I get the range concerns for a kid who's still growing, but no way Wilmer Flores is not capable of playing 2b.
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