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Familia to the bullpen?

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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:12 AM

Familia to the bullpen? 


Hey, not sure if this is how you guys want this but I didn't see this mentioned earlier. This is an article from Minorleagueball.com which states that Familia will be joining the bullpen. It was also tweeted by Adam Rubin.

I think this is a solid move as a strong bullpen is the most underrated aspect of winning in the majors. You need to build one internally and the ability to recognize those pitchers sooner rather than later from the farm is essential.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:37 AM

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Perfect
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:38 AM

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Most people have come to terms with Familia being a MR.  I'm fine with the decision.  The Mets need to bulk up the pen using internal options and the odds of Familia cutting it as a SP are pretty low at this point.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:41 AM

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What velocity will he be throwing at out of the pen?
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Posted: 2/10/2013 10:41 AM

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DocK16 wrote: Most people have come to terms with Familia being a MR.  I'm fine with the decision.  The Mets need to bulk up the pen using internal options and the odds of Familia cutting it as a SP are pretty low at this point.

He may start out as an MR, but I think the Mets view him as a potential closer eventually.  I know some will be disappointed by this move, but the Mets need more bullpen help at this point then they do starting pitching.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 1:05 PM

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thethe wrote: What velocity will he be throwing at out of the pen?

If his ball has movement and location . . . .
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Posted: 2/10/2013 1:31 PM

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thethe wrote: What velocity will he be throwing at out of the pen?
96-98?


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Posted: 2/10/2013 2:08 PM

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DocK16 wrote: Most people have come to terms with Familia being a MR.  I'm fine with the decision.  The Mets need to bulk up the pen using internal options and the odds of Familia cutting it as a SP are pretty low at this point.

Between him and Parnell, our Pen could feature some real smoke.  Now if Parnell's K rate would match up to his velocity we would be getting somewhere.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 2:57 PM

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I would not give up on Familia as a starter just yet.... I would let him start one more season at Triple A before i made that call.


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Posted: 2/10/2013 3:17 PM

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not a surprise, it also wouldnt shock me if he put together a few real nice seasons out of the pen, though I dont see it right away
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Posted: 2/10/2013 3:32 PM

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VAMetsFan wrote:
DocK16 wrote: Most people have come to terms with Familia being a MR.  I'm fine with the decision.  The Mets need to bulk up the pen using internal options and the odds of Familia cutting it as a SP are pretty low at this point.

Between him and Parnell, our Pen could feature some real smoke.  Now if Parnell's K rate would match up to his velocity we would be getting somewhere.
That's the problem.  When Parnell throws smoke, he is emminently hittable and he gets beat.  When he uses his new 2-seam fastball which he throws only in the 92-94 mile an hour range and his knuckle-curve ball that Izzy taught him is much more unhittable.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 3:32 PM

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The only thing that scares me about that is 4.8 BB/9 innings last year. Nothing worse than a reliever who can't throw strikes.

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Posted: 2/10/2013 5:40 PM

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omnimetfan wrote:
VAMetsFan wrote:
DocK16 wrote: Most people have come to terms with Familia being a MR.  I'm fine with the decision.  The Mets need to bulk up the pen using internal options and the odds of Familia cutting it as a SP are pretty low at this point.

Between him and Parnell, our Pen could feature some real smoke.  Now if Parnell's K rate would match up to his velocity we would be getting somewhere.
That's the problem.  When Parnell throws smoke, he is emminently hittable and he gets beat.  When he uses his new 2-seam fastball which he throws only in the 92-94 mile an hour range and his knuckle-curve ball that Izzy taught him is much more unhittable.
I don't know if it's Parnell or the way the former catchers handled him.......but I feel like he spends way too much time throwing outside with that fastball.   It seems like he would be better served working it high, low, and inside as opposed to his approach from recent years.   Anybody else agree?    I kind of felt like this was how most Mets relievers approached their game.....unfortunately.   Maybe Buck will help adjust this.


Familia......the new Ramon Ramirez?   He looks like he has a more live arm than Ramirez.....i think this is a good thing for the Mets, long-term.   Seems like they have the starting depth.......need some more bullpen depth.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 2:35 PM

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if mets are looking for bullpen depth, A's have some to spare

righties- balfour, cook, neshek, resop, rodriguez, scribner

lefties- doolittle, blevins, nakajima, norberto, blackley

AAA reinforcements- figueroa, leon, simmons

There just arent enough spots available, blackley/rodriguez/resop are also out of milb options.

I could see beane and alderson matching up on a minor spring training deal.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 4:22 PM

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Terry Collins said, that if Familla had one more good pitch to add, he would be one of the Mets best starting pitchers on the Mets.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 4:30 PM

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For what it's worth, Familia at least used to envision himself as a reliever (from Spring Training last year):

...Familia’s ultimate role is unclear, although when he and Harvey talk, they imagine him as a dominant reliever.


“We always laugh about it,” says Harvey. “He says, ‘I’ll close your games!’ ”


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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:50 PM

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It makes sense that he makes the 25 man roster cut. Even though he might have a better chance on working on his stuff at AAA, that club is now in Las Vegas. Getting him to the big club for an emergency start might be a logistical problem.

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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:15 AM

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danfran wrote: The only thing that scares me about that is 4.8 BB/9 innings last year. Nothing worse than a reliever who can't throw strikes.
That's a concern but at least his ball moves and he's got a number of different pitches. Hopefully it's a command thing that'll get better with maturity. When he's on, he can really be unhittable for short stretches, which is why I don't mind seeing him in the BP.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 9:11 AM

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...and 22 in AAA is still pretty young-- he was facing some fairly experienced batters. Only Randall Delgado and Julio Teheran pitched >20IP in the IL at a younger age last year. Jeff Locke was the youngest player to pitch more innings in the IL than JF -- and he was 1y41d older!

Last year in AA, only Manny Banuelos and Henderson Alvarez were any younger than JF.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:46 PM

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they might need him since Frank Frank is supposedly shut down with elbow issues.
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