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Mets still exploring SP options

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Posted: 1/5/2013 8:41 AM

Mets still exploring SP options 


Chris Young remains a viable option to be re-signed to fill the rotation void,”writes to Adam Rubin of ESPN New York.

Rubin says the Mets could fill their need through a trade as well.

In December, Ken Davidoff of the New York Post said the Mets were interested in bringing Young back, but were also considering signing Shaun MarcumandCarl Pavano.

In addition, Davidoff said the Mets are exploring a trade for one of Chris Capuano or Aaron Harang from the Dodgers.



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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:23 AM

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I really think they should sign a few gambles and reclamation projects, then if someone puts something together, spin them off at the trade deadline for a prospect or two. I would have done the same in the outfield with a guy like Sizemore.

When you're planning to punt a season (which they are), getting high-upside guys on 1-year deals is your best bet. After a hot start, they can be converted to prospects or even back to cash, opening up holes to be filled from the minors.

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Posted: 1/5/2013 9:28 AM

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throughthewickets wrote:

I really think they should sign a few gambles and reclamation projects, then if someone puts something together, spin them off at the trade deadline for a prospect or two. I would have done the same in the outfield with a guy like Sizemore.

When you're planning to punt a season (which they are), getting high-upside guys on 1-year deals is your best bet. After a hot start, they can be converted to prospects or even back to cash, opening up holes to be filled from the minors.


Yeah, I'd like to sign a couple guys who have the ability to start and possibly catch fire out of the pen.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 5:50 AM

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What about Ben Sheets or Carlos Zambrano on a one year deal. Or Marcum that would be nice.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:21 AM

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Cyclonesfan wrote: What about Ben Sheets or Carlos Zambrano on a one year deal. Or Marcum that would be nice.

I believe Sheets called it quits for good at the end of last season.

I'm surprised Zambrano's name hasn't surfaced at all (for any team) that I've heard.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:23 AM

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Last year Zambrano had 75 BBs and 95 Ks.  Yikes.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:34 AM

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of the remaining FA SPs, by far the 2 best available are Lohse and Oswalt.  There's a pretty big dropoff after that.  I'd put Bedard, Garcia, Karstens, Marcum & Saunders in the 2nd tier.  The third tier has all the remaining arms who either don't have much left like the Zambranos or Lowes or Wangs, or are coming off an injury like Moseley, Braden or Stauffer or just stink as in Cook, Jurrjens or Sanchez....
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson

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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:07 AM

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MetsBeast wrote: Last year Zambrano had 75 BBs and 95 Ks.  Yikes.
Not to mention he's a complete headcase.

As for Oswalt, it seems like only yesterday he was a difference maker during a playoff run.  Man how quickly things change.  But I wouldn't mind seeing what he has left in the tank.

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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:14 AM

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DuffyDyer wrote: of the remaining FA SPs, by far the 2 best available are Lohse and Oswalt.  There's a pretty big dropoff after that.  I'd put Bedard, Garcia, Karstens, Marcum & Saunders in the 2nd tier.  The third tier has all the remaining arms who either don't have much left like the Zambranos or Lowes or Wangs, or are coming off an injury like Moseley, Braden or Stauffer or just stink as in Cook, Jurrjens or Sanchez....
You really think Oswalt's a top tier guy?
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:25 AM

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dcmets wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote: of the remaining FA SPs, by far the 2 best available are Lohse and Oswalt.  There's a pretty big dropoff after that.  I'd put Bedard, Garcia, Karstens, Marcum & Saunders in the 2nd tier.  The third tier has all the remaining arms who either don't have much left like the Zambranos or Lowes or Wangs, or are coming off an injury like Moseley, Braden or Stauffer or just stink as in Cook, Jurrjens or Sanchez....
You really think Oswalt's a top tier guy?
Relative to the other guys available how is he not? 

Moot anyway because he wouldn't pitch in NY. 

Lohse is intriguing but probably too expensive for Mets and doesn't really fit what they are trying to do...
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:35 AM

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dcmets wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote: of the remaining FA SPs, by far the 2 best available are Lohse and Oswalt.  There's a pretty big dropoff after that.  I'd put Bedard, Garcia, Karstens, Marcum & Saunders in the 2nd tier.  The third tier has all the remaining arms who either don't have much left like the Zambranos or Lowes or Wangs, or are coming off an injury like Moseley, Braden or Stauffer or just stink as in Cook, Jurrjens or Sanchez....
You really think Oswalt's a top tier guy?
his peripherals were solid last season.  he just gave up a bunch of HRs that exploded his ERA.  He was probably affected by not really being ready when he came up (remember he didn't pitch until around June iirc) So yeah, I think that if he wants to pitch he'll be fine.  Obviously I don't expect him to want to pitch in NY but in the right situation he should still be very good.
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 1/7/2013 11:53 AM

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I'm still intrigued most by Marcum. His numbers are strikingly similar to Matt Garza the past three seasons. He was regarded highly enough to land Brett Lawrie.

Dickey + Thole + Nickeas = 4.1 war last season. John Buck put up a 1.2 war. Is it crazy to think Marcum+ D'Arnaud could surpass 2.9 between them?


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Posted: 1/7/2013 12:05 PM

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I've always liked Marcum and if the Mets could get him on a one year deal I would be all for it.  Interestingly, he's sort of similar to Chris Young in that he puts up very nice peripherals without throwing hard at all.  His avg FB velocity his entire career has been consistently around 87.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 12:40 PM

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acesfull86 wrote: I'm still intrigued most by Marcum. His numbers are strikingly similar to Matt Garza the past three seasons. He was regarded highly enough to land Brett Lawrie.

Dickey + Thole + Nickeas = 4.1 war last season. John Buck put up a 1.2 war. Is it crazy to think Marcum+ D'Arnaud could surpass 2.9 between them?
At what Bill James projects for Marcum in 2013 (including 196 innings pitched) he'd probably be worth about 2.9 WAR alone.

Also, if Marcum turned out to be that good he might be able to fetch a decent prospect at the trade deadline.  I feel like he is probably the best target although I am concerned about the arm issues if they are forced to go two years.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 12:46 PM

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acesfull86 wrote: I'm still intrigued most by Marcum. His numbers are strikingly similar to Matt Garza the past three seasons. He was regarded highly enough to land Brett Lawrie.

Dickey + Thole + Nickeas = 4.1 war last season. John Buck put up a 1.2 war. Is it crazy to think Marcum+ D'Arnaud could surpass 2.9 between them?
Well, Buck put up a 1.2 WAR in 400 PA. Hopefully he won't get that many PA in 2013. Maybe he will if TDA doesn't come up until whenever the date is to get the extra few months of pre-arb service time. Honestly, I hope TDA starts the year with the big club and gets 400+ AB himself. I think as a catcher it might be ideal to spend the whole year in the majors working with the same pitching staff. Though I guess if he pairs with Wheeler at AAA and they're both promoted together, that could make some sense also.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:04 PM

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In a way, I kinda hope that the Mets sign Pavano, and he really pitches well.  Not because I like the guy or anything, but just to see Yankee fans I know go ballistic.

Mets trade away reigning CY Young award winner.
Still have the best pitcher in Baseball.
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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:20 PM

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I wonder what Brandon Webb is up to.

David Wright is not the problem with this team.
MARIO

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Posted: 1/7/2013 1:33 PM

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mari06t6 wrote: I wonder what Brandon Webb is up to.
http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_22311832/rock ies-show-some-interest-pitchers-brandon-webb-jeff

He is attempting a comeback... 

But Mets already have 1 pitcher who has shocked everyone with a recovery from shoulder injury.. doubt they would invest in another. 

And for Webb's sake, I hope he intelligently invested the $31.5 million he has made in his career...
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Posted: 1/7/2013 2:18 PM

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I might just off the deep end if the Mets sign Pavano.  eek
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 1/7/2013 4:56 PM

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Oh dude my advice to you is to Stay out of Colorado if you want to revitalize your pitching career.
BelieveInMetsMagic wrote:
mari06t6 wrote: I wonder what Brandon Webb is up to.
http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_22311832/rock ies-show-some-interest-pitchers-brandon-webb-jeff

He is attempting a comeback... 

But Mets already have 1 pitcher who has shocked everyone with a recovery from shoulder injury.. doubt they would invest in another. 

And for Webb's sake, I hope he intelligently invested the $31.5 million he has made in his career...

David Wright is not the problem with this team.
MARIO

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