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Mets Sign OF - Andrew Brown to Minor League Deal

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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:06 AM

Mets Sign OF - Andrew Brown to Minor League Deal 


**Prays for Order** - while the fans clamor to comment on this signing:
The Mets announced that they signed outfielder Andrew Brown to a minor league contract that includes an invitation to MLB Spring Training (Twitter link).

Brown made his MLB with the 2011 Cardinals before the Rockies claimed him off of waivers from St. Louis. The 28-year-old spent the 2012 season with the Rockies, appearing in 46 games as a corner outfielder. Brown, a right-handed hitter, posted a .232/.302/.429 batting line with five home runs in 126 plate appearances with the Rockies this past season. However, Colorado granted him free agency in November.

 

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Brown, 28, hit 5 HRs in 46 games with Colorado in 2012. He was also a PCL All-Star hitting .308 with 24 HRs and 98 RBI last season.



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In all seriousness, this matches up with the theory that we'd see a bunch of PCL invites to play in Vegas for the 51's.  In looking at his numbers for Colorado Springs (PCL) - he mashed. 

Wouldn't be shocked to see him put up good numbers out in Vegas, then get the call at some point - to disappoint.

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:09 AM

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wow.  not a terrible gamble but boy are the Mets scraping the barrel...
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:10 AM

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Look out Nationals!!!!
DuffyDyer wrote: wow.  not a terrible gamble but boy are the Mets scraping the barrel...

David Wright is not the problem with this team.
MARIO

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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:14 AM

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So, why was he available?


Later
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:17 AM

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Walnutz15 wrote: **Prays for Order** - while the fans clamor to comment on this signing:
The Mets announced that they signed outfielder Andrew Brown to a minor league contract that includes an invitation to MLB Spring Training (Twitter link).

Brown made his MLB with the 2011 Cardinals before the Rockies claimed him off of waivers from St. Louis. The 28-year-old spent the 2012 season with the Rockies, appearing in 46 games as a corner outfielder. Brown, a right-handed hitter, posted a .232/.302/.429 batting line with five home runs in 126 plate appearances with the Rockies this past season. However, Colorado granted him free agency in November.

 

Additionally:
Brown, 28, hit 5 HRs in 46 games with Colorado in 2012. He was also a PCL All-Star hitting .308 with 24 HRs and 98 RBI last season.



tongue

In all seriousness, this matches up with the theory that we'd see a bunch of PCL invites to play in Vegas for the 51's.  In looking at his numbers for Colorado Springs (PCL) - he mashed. 

Wouldn't be shocked to see him put up good numbers out in Vegas, then get the call at some point - to disappoint.

cue the orange & blue goggle crowd who will surely tout the exceptional cunning in plucking this dude out of obscurity!  tongue
"Maybe it's time to make some moves."  - Sandy Alderson
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:20 AM

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DuffyDyer wrote:
cue the orange & blue goggle crowd who will surely tout the exceptional cunning in plucking this dude out of obscurity!  tongue

Hey, for what it'll ultimately provide - it's not terrible.

You grab a guy "with Major League experience" who'll pop a few HR's out in the PCL......otherwise, I don't expect anything.

(Happy New Year, by the way.  )

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:23 AM

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The OF is now Duda/Cowbell/Brown, not bad*. The Mets just remade two-thirds of their OF!


* for a minor league team.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:24 AM

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RSVandy wrote: The OF is now Duda/Cowbell/Brown, not bad*. The Mets just remade two-thirds of their OF!


* for a minor league team.

That will a heckuva of an outfield for the 2015 Long Island Ducks.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:24 AM

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RSVandy wrote: The OF is now Duda/Cowbell/Brown, not bad*. The Mets just remade two-thirds of their OF!


* for a minor league team.

Official Team Press Release:

This is Andrew Brown.

..........and he looks like this.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:26 AM

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Walnutz15 wrote:
DuffyDyer wrote:
cue the orange & blue goggle crowd who will surely tout the exceptional cunning in plucking this dude out of obscurity!  tongue

Hey, for what it'll ultimately provide - it's not terrible.

You grab a guy "with Major League experience" who'll pop a few HR's out in the PCL......otherwise, I don't expect anything.

(Happy New Year, by the way.  )
yeah first thing I said was it's not a bad gamble.  but like you said if this is a AAA depth signing then it makes lots of sense... as the Mets RHed hitting RFer... ehhh.  

So until we see a real OFer brought in, we can all remain skeptical. noidea
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:29 AM

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Walnutz15 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: The OF is now Duda/Cowbell/Brown, not bad*. The Mets just remade two-thirds of their OF!


* for a minor league team.

Official Team Press Release:

This is Andrew Brown.

..........and he looks like this.

Look at all of that dirt being flung into the air, this guy is a real hitter.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:30 AM

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RSVandy wrote: The OF is now Duda/Cowbell/Brown, not bad*. The Mets just remade two-thirds of their OF!


* for a minor league team.
nice work!

I actually like the potential of the Cowbell deal.  I think he seems like a young version of Reed Johnson and so can be a useful part.  Having young players take up the bench roles is something we haven't been used to here but I much prefer that to having mostly older failed regulars in those roles.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:32 AM

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Yeah, I like Cowbell. He's a good 4th OF type since he's young and can play all three OF positions and may be capable of being a starting CF, though the chances of that last one are probably slim.

This Brown person sounds like a decent AAA bat. He seems to have hit well in his minor league career, albet in good hitting environments.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 11:32 AM

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RSVandy wrote:
Walnutz15 wrote:
RSVandy wrote: The OF is now Duda/Cowbell/Brown, not bad*. The Mets just remade two-thirds of their OF!


* for a minor league team.

Official Team Press Release:

This is Andrew Brown.

..........and he looks like this.

Look at all of that dirt being flung into the air, this guy is a real hitter.

....it's ingrained in his blood.  They asked him to put a band-aid on a cut, prior to the AB - which he refused.

True grit.  wink

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

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Posted: 1/2/2013 12:41 PM

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Ted Berg apparently called this back on Dec. 4th.

Berg's argument was that rather than trying to sign someone like Ryan Ludwick, the team should be looking for the next Ludwick, i.e. someone in their late 20s with a history of pop in AAA who might stick if given a chance/properly platooned. The Vegas connection gives me some concern about whether those numbers can translate for a guy like Brown, given that apparently even NewMFS62 might be able to hit 30 HRs out there (or so reports would suggest.)

Anyway, I like the approach - don't overpay for the guy who's already done it. ID the next guy who might do it. On a larger scale, it would be like trading for Swisher in 2009, rather than signing him in 2013. Which is what we have a history of doing (see: Jason Bay). It's obviously riskier to go for the 'unproven' guy, but since this signing isn't going to be the difference in making the playoffs, why waste the extra money?


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Posted: 1/2/2013 1:25 PM

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Absentminded wrote: The Vegas connection gives me some concern about whether those numbers can translate for a guy like Brown, given that apparently even NewMFS62 might be able to hit 30 HRs out there (or so reports would suggest.)

How do you know he hasn't? surprised

That's exactly why I have no delusions of grandeur about Brown coming up to become anything special.  His home/road splits at the big league level are skewed even further by the fact that he played a majority of those home games in Colorado, of all places.

I'll be viewing this one as a Val Pascucci-situation.  Masher at the minor league level he's playing at, but not much more (and believe me, I had no problem with Pascucci being called-up to miserable Mets teams - and thought he should have been there sooner)----- with 3 advantages toward the road to the bigs, in lieu of being stuck at Triple-A (like 'Scooch).

- He probably plays better defense, just by default.
- He threw from a pitcher's mound last season; presuming it was in "mop-up" capacity.
- This front office actually brought him in.

I'm sure we'll see him at some point, but it's hard to get excited about big numbers in the PCL these days.

"Use your head.....that's that lump 3 feet above your arse." - Jimmy Dugan

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Posted: 1/2/2013 2:15 PM

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Whew!  Now we can call it an offseason. frown
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Posted: 1/2/2013 2:46 PM

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Hopefully he'll have the opportunity to continue to put up big numbers in the PCL in 2013.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 3:03 PM

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PhilaMet wrote: Hopefully he'll have the opportunity to continue to put up big numbers in the PCL in 2013.

Yep, this guy's got VEGAS written all over him.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 3:47 PM

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Absentminded wrote: Ted Berg apparently called this back on Dec. 4th.

Berg's argument was that rather than trying to sign someone like Ryan Ludwick, the team should be looking for the next Ludwick, i.e. someone in their late 20s with a history of pop in AAA who might stick if given a chance/properly platooned. The Vegas connection gives me some concern about whether those numbers can translate for a guy like Brown, given that apparently even NewMFS62 might be able to hit 30 HRs out there (or so reports would suggest.)

Anyway, I like the approach - don't overpay for the guy who's already done it. ID the next guy who might do it. On a larger scale, it would be like trading for Swisher in 2009, rather than signing him in 2013. Which is what we have a history of doing (see: Jason Bay). It's obviously riskier to go for the 'unproven' guy, but since this signing isn't going to be the difference in making the playoffs, why waste the extra money?

 


I don't mind any of that....it's sound strategy. But we still need at least one everyday, ML caliber, starting OFer to go with these platoon/take-a-flyer types.

My thought from the beginning of the offseason was to see at least 1 everyday starting OFer brought in this winter and another next year. Still waiting on that.

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