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OT: Swisher signs w/Cleveland (4yrs, $56MM + Option)

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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:07 AM

OT: Swisher signs w/Cleveland (4yrs, $56MM + Option) 


BREAKING: Nick Swisher has agreed to a four-year, $56 million deal with the Indians. Vesting $14M option for a 5th year could make it $70M.



Yeah, that should put Cleveland over the top.

Last edited 12/27/2012 8:51 AM by Walnutz15

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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:10 AM

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Horrible signing.  Cleveland has no direction right now.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:24 AM

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At least in Cleveland, he won't have to worry about flopping in the post-season.

Later
"You spend a good part of your life gripping the baseball, and in the end it turns out it was the other way around all the time." Jim Bouton

Last edited 12/23/2012 10:29 AM by NewMFS62

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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:43 AM

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$14 million a year for Swisher? This has sure been an overheated FA period.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:47 AM

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I think Vandy was onto something when he said this is the new normal.  Crazy to think where contracts could go.

Sucks for teams like the Mets who went into the off-season expecting to shop in a fairly typical market.

On a positive note, these kinds of deals make the Wright deal look pretty good in comparison.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:55 AM

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I think this is more the new norm than overpaying folks. This isn't 2002 anymore. Ross got 3 years and 25+ mil, upton and his question marks got big money, victorino and his age got big money. Even youk at his age off a down year got 13 mil.

There is no such thing as the 5-7 mil a year fa signing anymore for a regular player. Even bullpen relievers re getting big contracts. The reality is the day the mets get back into the market again (I pray that is 2014), we better be ready to join the club. We aren't so desirable a franchise that players will give us a discount when the market is already set..

I'm willing to wait a year given how awful we truly will be next year and use it to test our pieces and experiment. But after that, the strategy has to be to reinvest. Our payroll is something like 30 million next year. If the mets aren't ready to spend 60-70 million, and that expectation be that we will likely only add 4-5 impact players bc the market is what it is, it will be a much longer rebuilding process than New York is willing to accept. But the market is what it is (harens contract and liriano coming off bad years are 2 more examples)

Last edited 12/23/2012 10:59 AM by met8669

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Posted: 12/23/2012 11:25 AM

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DocK16 wrote: I think Vandy was onto something when he said this is the new normal.  Crazy to think where contracts could go.

Sucks for teams like the Mets who went into the off-season expecting to shop in a fairly typical market.

On a positive note, these kinds of deals make the Wright deal look pretty good in comparison.
If this is "the new norm", that is going to place even more of a premium on drafting and player development.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 11:42 AM

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danfran wrote:
DocK16 wrote: I think Vandy was onto something when he said this is the new normal.  Crazy to think where contracts could go.

Sucks for teams like the Mets who went into the off-season expecting to shop in a fairly typical market.

On a positive note, these kinds of deals make the Wright deal look pretty good in comparison.
If this is "the new norm", that is going to place even more of a premium on drafting and player development.
Excellent point.  Which is why, as frustrating as it is to watch the current state of the big league club, I'm really happy with the guys running the show on the minor league side.

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Posted: 12/23/2012 11:52 AM

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Good deal for Cle, Swisher has been pretty consistent in the last 4 years.

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Posted: 12/23/2012 11:57 AM

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danfran wrote:
DocK16 wrote: I think Vandy was onto something when he said this is the new normal.  Crazy to think where contracts could go.

Sucks for teams like the Mets who went into the off-season expecting to shop in a fairly typical market.

On a positive note, these kinds of deals make the Wright deal look pretty good in comparison.
If this is "the new norm", that is going to place even more of a premium on drafting and player development.

Given the current state of our farm, that puts us ahead of the curve imo.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 12:03 PM

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If this is where the market is going to be for the next few years. At some point Sandy & Co. will have to readjust and play in the waters everyone else is or get left behind


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Posted: 12/23/2012 12:04 PM

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Pretty good deal IMO in a vacuum. Swisher is the single biggest metronome in MLB. Solid player to build around and a fan favorite.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 12:10 PM

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Wow. $14 million a year for Swisher. David Wright is already looking like a bargain!
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Posted: 12/23/2012 12:22 PM

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I really don't see the surprise or the overpayment here. I think is right in line. If anything, he got less than first expected.

NS has been around a 3.8 WAR producer, w/ ~25 HR, ~80 BB, 150 G the last 4 years. Very consistent.

This may be the best or more deserving big $ FA signing of the off-season so far. Certainly better than Victorino, Napoli, Jackson, Sanchez.

Last edited 12/23/2012 12:27 PM by Gstacks177

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Posted: 12/23/2012 12:54 PM

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RSVandy wrote: Wow. $14 million a year for Swisher. David Wright is already looking like a bargain!
How so?  David Wright got twice as much money.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 1:01 PM

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dcmets wrote:
RSVandy wrote: Wow. $14 million a year for Swisher. David Wright is already looking like a bargain!
How so?  David Wright got twice as much money.
On a per year basis.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 1:23 PM

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I agree with Gstacks. I think this a pretty good deal. Per year money is a consideration for sure, but 4 years is very good for Swisher. I mean, Youklis got $12/13M? per year contract.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 1:46 PM

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You would think Bourn will get a similar deal.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 1:54 PM

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DocK16 wrote: I think Vandy was onto something when he said this is the new normal.  Crazy to think where contracts could go.

Sucks for teams like the Mets who went into the off-season expecting to shop in a fairly typical market.

On a positive note, these kinds of deals make the Wright deal look pretty good in comparison.
It's the TV money I bet. Major League Baseball as a whole is seeing a lot of revenue growth during this recent wave of TV deal renewals, and it's passing through to the players. The contracts may be getting bigger, but I'm curious what % of total MLB revenue is being spent on player salaries. My guess is it hasn't moved all that much.

That being said, would you rather have Swisher's contract, or Jayson Werth's?


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Posted: 12/23/2012 2:48 PM

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dcmets wrote: I agree with Gstacks. I think this a pretty good deal. Per year money is a consideration for sure, but 4 years is very good for Swisher. I mean, Youklis got $12/13M? per year contract.
Yeah, this is very reasonable in light of the new environment for free agent contracts. This is good for Cleveland, even if they're rebuilding right now. Swisher may very well still be productive two years from now and they can't spend their entire offseason budget in a single season. Might as well slowly add pieces through free agency if they come with reasonable contracts while you're rebuilding.
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