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Mets: Free Agent Signings (Byrdak signs Minor League Deal)

Posted: 11/17/2012 6:25 AM

Mets: Free Agent Signings (Byrdak signs Minor League Deal) 


So we have signed three minor league jurney men and have signed no one to help for the 2012 season?  Some saw well wait its only November!!!  Lets get real.....More minor league scrap heap players to fill out the roster and hope for the best. Who has renewed their season ticket packages?

Last edited 11/26/2012 1:46 PM by Walnutz15

Posted: 11/17/2012 6:27 AM

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The Mets announced they have signed 30-year-old Brian Bixler to a Minor League contract and have invited him to Spring Training.

Bixler played in 36 games for the Astros in 2012, hitting .193 with a .253 OBP, two home runs and seven RBI in 96 plate appearances – he is a career .189 hitter in 183 Major League games since 2008.

Bixler hit .269 with a .346 OBP, three home runs and 19 RBI in 281 plate appearances for Triple-A Oklahoma City in the Pacific Coast League in 2012.


The Mets announced they have agreed to a Minor League contract with Mike Nickeas, and have invited him to Spring Training.

Nickeas hit .174 with one home run and 13 RBI in 122 plate appearances over 47 games for the Mets in 2012. He is a career .180 hitter in 191 plate appearances over three seasons with the Mets




The Mets announced they’ve agreed to terms with RHP Greg Burke on a Minor League contract with an invitation to Major League Spring Training.

Burke’s only Major League season came in 2009 with the Padres – he went 3-3 with a 4.14 ERA in 48 relief appearances.

Burke, 30, split his time between Double-A and Triple-A in the Orioles organization last year – he went 3-1 with a 1.53 ERA in 44 relief appearances, having allowed 15 walks with 50 strikeouts in 50 2/3 innings.



Last edited 11/17/2012 6:33 AM by Cyclonesfan

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Posted: 11/17/2012 10:03 AM

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Cyclonesfan wrote: So we have signed three minor league jurney men and have signed no one to help for the 2012 season?  Some saw well wait its only November!!!  Lets get real.....More minor league scrap heap players to fill out the roster and hope for the best. Who has renewed their season ticket packages?

It is only November and every team signs minor leaguers off the scrap heap.

Only one major FA has signed so far, one significant trade executed.  It isn't even Thanksgiving yet.  

By your standard, 95% of all teams should be criticized for their lack of activity, including the Yankees, Red Sox, Braves, Phillies, Nats, etc.

Lets save the criticism for a month from now.  If nothing has happened by late December, I'll join you in your criticism.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 10:27 AM

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Braves signed Gerald Laird Dock! Get with it.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 10:52 AM

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We seem to go through this every year...

The last time the Mets went out of the organization to make a "significant" player move by the middle of November was the 11/15/06 trade of Bell + Ring for Adkins + Johnson.  It's early.


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Last edited 11/17/2012 12:29 PM by acesfull86

Posted: 11/17/2012 6:22 PM

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Cyclonesfan wrote:

The Mets announced they have signed 30-year-old Brian Bixler to a Minor League contract and have invited him to Spring Training.

Whew!
When I heard the name, I thought it was this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Btfsplk

They've signed enough of them over the years.

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"You spend a good part of your life gripping the baseball, and in the end it turns out it was the other way around all the time." Jim Bouton

Posted: 11/18/2012 2:22 AM

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DocK16 wrote:
Cyclonesfan wrote: So we have signed three minor league jurney men and have signed no one to help for the 2012 season?  Some saw well wait its only November!!!  Lets get real.....More minor league scrap heap players to fill out the roster and hope for the best. Who has renewed their season ticket packages?

It is only November and every team signs minor leaguers off the scrap heap.

Only one major FA has signed so far, one significant trade executed.  It isn't even Thanksgiving yet.  

By your standard, 95% of all teams should be criticized for their lack of activity, including the Yankees, Red Sox, Braves, Phillies, Nats, etc.

Lets save the criticism for a month from now.  If nothing has happened by late December, I'll join you in your criticism.

Sure, it´s less exciting than signing BJ Upton to a 5-year, 75 million $ contract (in exchange for your 2013 1st round pick).

And in all likelihood the next "moves" will be protecting 4 to 6 prospects on the 40-man roster (Wheeler, Gorski, Aderlin Rodriguez, probably Tovar and maybe one of Harris, Marte, Campbell, Cuan or Armando Rodriguez, I suppose). With that being followed by a few more minor league free agent signings (the Las Vegas 51s probably still need a SS, a CF, possibly a SP and another reliever or two before they have a complete roster).  Then - hopefully before the start of the winter meetings - extensions for Wright & Dickey will be announced, plus decisions about (non-)tendering a contract to Pelfrey, Acosta and Torres.
 
And then, by early to mid December, you´ll see major league moves happening. Not signing BJ Upton or Michael Bourn but maybe re-signing Scott Hairston or trading for an OF, I´m afraid.

Rebuilding isn´t too much fun. Again, it helps to look back at the Frank Cashen years back in the early 80s as a reminder. Sure, there were more trades back then (and much lower salaries and far fewer free agents). However, the general theme was quite similar. Build from ground up while - mostly without success - try to be competitive at the major league level.

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Posted: 11/18/2012 8:44 AM

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I'm all about rebuilding and all about patience.  I've also defended Sandy and his plan to no end, especially in the face of criticism that he is less than forthright with the fan base.  I honestly believe that entitled fans need to get a grip and understand the nature of the business of running a baseball team and building a winner.  

That said, if Sandy promises changes in the off-season and points to trades as the way to make that happen, I'm going to expect more than a few minor tweaks.  That doesn't mean I expect Sandy to move mountains, but the team had better be busy doing something other than signing and trading for a bunch of retreads.  

Otherwise, don't tell us changes are forthcoming.  Some of us are reasonable and supportive of rebuilding.  We aren't all drivel-spewing WFAN callers or Francesa lackeys.  I don't expect the FO to be forthright with every ounce of information, but I do expect them to mean what they say when they promise changes, especially when nothing has happened that would force the team to change course, which I do believe was the reason for shifting payroll projections in Sandy's first and second seasons.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 8:52 AM

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DrDooby wrote:

Rebuilding isn´t too much fun. 


It isn't, and fans need to realize that.  However, just because a team is rebuilding and focused on developing talent doesn't mean it has to be almost completely inactive at the big league level.  

The Cubs are undertaking a very active rebuilding approach.  I don't see why we couldn't have/can't do the same.  It's still going to take Theo and Hoyer years to rebuild the Cubs, but they aren't just sitting on their thumbs, biding their time, and waiting on their prospects to develop.

That's my biggest criticism.  Sandy has gotten a lot of flack for the moves he's made.  My issue is with the moves he hasn't made.  We've been entirely too idle for entirely too long.

Posted: 11/18/2012 11:15 AM

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Rebuilding IS fun, when its done with rookies and prospects who have a track record of minor league success and potential. That's what can keep the fans coming to check them out.
It is NOT fun when it is done with a bunch of 30 year old "never-was" and "never will be" players.

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"You spend a good part of your life gripping the baseball, and in the end it turns out it was the other way around all the time." Jim Bouton

Last edited 11/18/2012 11:16 AM by NewMFS62

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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:26 AM

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DrDooby wrote:
Rebuilding isn´t too much fun. 


It isn't, and fans need to realize that.  However, just because a team is rebuilding and focused on developing talent doesn't mean it has to be almost completely inactive at the big league level.  

The Cubs are undertaking a very active rebuilding approach.  I don't see why we couldn't have/can't do the same.  It's still going to take Theo and Hoyer years to rebuild the Cubs, but they aren't just sitting on their thumbs, biding their time, and waiting on their prospects to develop.

That's my biggest criticism.  Sandy has gotten a lot of flack for the moves he's made.  My issue is with the moves he hasn't made.  We've been entirely too idle for entirely too long.

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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:36 AM

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NewMFS62 wrote: Rebuilding IS fun, when its done with rookies and prospects who have a track record of minor league success and potential. That's what can keep the fans coming to check them out.
It is NOT fun when it is done with a bunch of 30 year old "never-was" and "never will be" players.

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Not all rebuilding franchises are blessed with great farm systems.  Especially those that for a long-time neglected the well-being of their farm system in favor of short-term fixes in FA.

Posted: 11/18/2012 11:42 AM

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But that is exactly why I put that comment in this thread. The thread is about signings (even like good Ol' Bixler), yet folks wanted to hijack the topic of the thread  toward rebuilding. My point is signing that type of player is a far cry from rebuilding. And I wanted to put this thread back on track - signings.
There are plenty of other threads to talk about plans for rebuilding the franchise.

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"You spend a good part of your life gripping the baseball, and in the end it turns out it was the other way around all the time." Jim Bouton
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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:49 AM

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NewMFS62 wrote: But that is exactly why I put that comment in this thread. The thread is about signings (even like good Ol' Bixler), yet folks wanted to hijack the topic of the thread  toward rebuilding. My point is signing that type of player is a far cry from rebuilding. And I wanted to put this thread back on track - signings.
There are plenty of other threads to talk about plans for rebuilding the franchise.

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While the title may be FA signings, the OP's focus was on the lack of activity, which imo needed a dose of perspective/context.  If it were strictly about FA signings and remarks hadn't been made about renewing ticket plans based on pre-Thanksgiving inactivity, there would've been no reason for discussion to veer.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 12:10 PM

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--- DocK16 wrote:

I'm all about rebuilding and all about patience.  I've also defended Sandy and his plan to no end, especially in the face of criticism that he is less than forthright with the fan base.  I honestly believe that entitled fans need to get a grip and understand the nature of the business of running a baseball team and building a winner.  

That said, if Sandy promises changes in the off-season and points to trades as the way to make that happen, I'm going to expect more than a few minor tweaks.  That doesn't mean I expect Sandy to move mountains, but the team had better be busy doing something other than signing and trading for a bunch of retreads.  

Otherwise, don't tell us changes are forthcoming.  Some of us are reasonable and supportive of rebuilding.  We aren't all drivel-spewing WFAN callers or Francesa lackeys.  I don't expect the FO to be forthright with every ounce of information, but I do expect them to mean what they say when they promise changes, especially when nothing has happened that would force the team to change course, which I do believe was the reason for shifting payroll projections in Sandy's first and second seasons.

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In Sandy's defense, I would say there is no way he would have signed up for this gig had he known the financial constraints he was going to face. He didn't need this job.

Posted: 11/18/2012 3:12 PM

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"The Cubs are undertaking a very active rebuilding approach. I don't see why we couldn't have/can't do the same."

That said-- the Mets won 13 more teams than the Cubs last year; The Mets averaged 8 more wins over the last three years; both teams averaged about 78 wins over the last five years.

Posted: 11/18/2012 3:57 PM

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--- erosen wrote:

"The Cubs are undertaking a very active rebuilding approach. I don't see why we couldn't have/can't do the same."

That said-- the Mets won 13 more teams than the Cubs last year; The Mets averaged 8 more wins over the last three years; both teams averaged about 78 wins over the last five years.

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Except for obviously trading Ryan Dempster at the deadline for prospects, trading Cashner to SD for Rizzo and signing David DeJesus as a stopgap free agent, what exciting moves have the Cubs made over their 1st year with Epstein & Hoyer that I have missed ?

Sure, there have been several moves. But most of them have been of similar impact to signing Chris Capuano or Scott Hairston or trading Pedro Beato for Kelly Shoppach.

And back to the thread, again Bixler is a fine signing - as a backup for Las Vegas and cheap depth.

If he is a Top 3 acquisition 3 months from now, sure that'd be very disappointing.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 4:19 PM

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1. Cashner for Rizzo
2. Maholm and Johnson for Vizcaino and Chapman
3. Dempster trade
4. Took fliers on Travis Wood and Chris Volstad (dumping Zambrano in the process)

That's in just one year, mind you.  Not saying all those moves have been wildly successful, but the Cubs have been as active as anybody.  The Mets have made some smart under-the-radar moves as well, my criticism is that they haven't made enough of them.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 4:31 PM

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I agree if you say you're going to do something then you do it. Otherwise it just looks you're trying to tell us what we want to hear and then that makes things worse for you.

Like This:

This afternoon, Sandy Alderson was a guest on WFAN, during which he told host Mike Francesa, the roster will be much different next season, saying “We need an infusion of players, productive players.”


So we better see some serious changes to this roster.


Last edited 11/18/2012 4:32 PM by xmulderx

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Posted: 11/18/2012 4:52 PM

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xmulderx wrote: I agree if you say you're going to do something then you do it. Otherwise it just looks you're trying to tell us what we want to hear and then that makes things worse for you.

Like This:

This afternoon, Sandy Alderson was a guest on WFAN, during which he told host Mike Francesa, the roster will be much different next season, saying “We need an infusion of players, productive players.”


So we better see some serious changes to this roster.

What was the context of that quote, though?  I'd like to read the entire transcript.  Did he explicitly state the roster will be much different or did the report draw that conclusion from the statement in quotes?
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