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Mets/Wright: Agree On Extension (Specs Included)

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Posted: 11/8/2012 6:40 PM

Mets/Wright: Agree On Extension (Specs Included) 


The Dickey and DW topics are important enough to be discussed independently, especially with the news that a Dickey extension is no sure thing.  Lets discuss David's status here.  Thanks.

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Posted: 11/8/2012 9:44 PM

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6 years/110M plus the options year...get it done.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 9:59 PM

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If the Mets don't plan on surrounding David with talent then I would prefer to see him traded.


Question: Which two baseball teams are an Italian's favorite?

Answer:  The A's and O's
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Posted: 11/8/2012 11:01 PM

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I still am finding it difficult to read whether he stays or goes. My gut keeps telling me that Sandy would like to move him. But this might not be his call. I don't know anymore. Gun to my head I would still probably lean towards a trade unless we bring in say an Upton. Then it makes it easier to not only to justify keeping him. But, it will also make it easier for Wright to want to stay as well. We shall see, I would think this is gonna come to a head one way or the other between now and the close of the winter meetings.


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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:35 AM

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I would look into trading him to Toronto for a package involving Lawrie, if you ship Wright out.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 1:06 AM

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dgLuvsTheMets wrote: I would look into trading him to Toronto for a package involving Lawrie, if you ship Wright out.
Lawrie, Rasmus, and D' Arnaud?????     LOLOLOL J/k


Question: Which two baseball teams are an Italian's favorite?

Answer:  The A's and O's
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Posted: 11/9/2012 7:37 AM

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dgLuvsTheMets wrote: I would look into trading him to Toronto for a package involving Lawrie, if you ship Wright out.
Lawrie, Rasmus, and D' Arnaud?????     LOLOLOL J/k

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I know you were kidding but I don't think that's too far off from the sort of package the Mets should demand for Wright if they decide to move him. Alderson would be crucified if he traded DW for much less than that. Maybe the Lawrie and Rasmus equivalents in the deal would be less established but you better get multiple extremely high upside players if you trade Wright.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 9:22 AM

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With Bay having been shipped out, and Hairston, Shoppach and Torres all FA, that leaves DW, Ruben Tejada, and Justin Turner are our only returning RH bats.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 11:29 AM

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does the dumping of Bay and a few pennies saved in the process for 2013 make a case to keep Hairston?
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Posted: 11/9/2012 11:32 AM

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Seaver wrote: does the dumping of Bay and a few pennies saved in the process for 2013 make a case to keep Hairston?
  I hope not... I know he had a decent year but the man is just not a starting caliber player + He is going to wind up an overpaid bench guy off the season he had and I would rather it not be the Mets who give him that deal.


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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:02 PM

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Is Hairston any worse defensively than Duda ? I never could figure out why Hairston was'nt starting everyday ? He would have hit 30 + HR's ?

Go Mets...Cyborg
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:09 PM

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cysporsche wrote: Is Hairston any worse defensively than Duda ? I never could figure out why Hairston was'nt starting everyday ? He would have hit 30 + HR's ?

Go Mets...Cyborg
  He is slightly better... but that is not hard when you are talking Duda.  But, Hairston has a long track record of not being able to stay healthy for long. It was probably even shocking to him he managed to play as much as he did last year. I like him in the role as power off the bench and maybe starting once a week. But I can't justify what he will get to bring him back.


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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:13 PM

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xmulderx wrote:
cysporsche wrote: Is Hairston any worse defensively than Duda ? I never could figure out why Hairston was'nt starting everyday ? He would have hit 30 + HR's ?

Go Mets...Cyborg
  He is slightly better... but that is not hard when you are talking Duda.  But, Hairston has a long track record of not being able to stay healthy for long. It was probably even shocking to him he managed to play as much as he did last year. I like him in the role as power off the bench and maybe starting once a week. But I can't justify what he will get to bring him back.
It's a good question. I think the thought was that was better against righthanders and Hairston was better against lefties. And while their individual splits did bear that out, Hairstons lesser side was STILL better than Duda's better side. Of course giving him all hte at-bats may not necessarily have played out that way, but on paper at least it does look like Hairston should've been playing every day, particularly in the second half of the season when this solid season was already brewing. I can understand snubbing him early but by June his numbers were impressive.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:18 PM

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power is nice, but we've seen Duda play the OF.  If anyone thinks he is going to be considerably better playing LF than he was in RF, I have some beautiful land in Willets Point to sell you.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:24 PM

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shhaggy wrote:
xmulderx wrote:
cysporsche wrote: Is Hairston any worse defensively than Duda ? I never could figure out why Hairston was'nt starting everyday ? He would have hit 30 + HR's ?

Go Mets...Cyborg
  He is slightly better... but that is not hard when you are talking Duda.  But, Hairston has a long track record of not being able to stay healthy for long. It was probably even shocking to him he managed to play as much as he did last year. I like him in the role as power off the bench and maybe starting once a week. But I can't justify what he will get to bring him back.
It's a good question. I think the thought was that was better against righthanders and Hairston was better against lefties. And while their individual splits did bear that out, Hairstons lesser side was STILL better than Duda's better side. Of course giving him all hte at-bats may not necessarily have played out that way, but on paper at least it does look like Hairston should've been playing every day, particularly in the second half of the season when this solid season was already brewing. I can understand snubbing him early but by June his numbers were impressive.
   yup, he did a tremendous job last year.  I just don't know if counting on him to be that guy would be a wise decision. Taking into account his injury history & never doing it before.

  I totally agree on Duda to me he will never cut in the major leagues. I think there is too much reliance on number crunching to justify him as a major league player and no evidence to suggest he is other than some small flashes.


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Posted: 11/9/2012 1:36 PM

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have heard he (Hairston) may fit with Yankees platooning with Ibanez at DH.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 3:36 PM

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xmulderx wrote:
shhaggy wrote:
xmulderx wrote:
cysporsche wrote: Is Hairston any worse defensively than Duda ? I never could figure out why Hairston was'nt starting everyday ? He would have hit 30 + HR's ?

Go Mets...Cyborg
  He is slightly better... but that is not hard when you are talking Duda.  But, Hairston has a long track record of not being able to stay healthy for long. It was probably even shocking to him he managed to play as much as he did last year. I like him in the role as power off the bench and maybe starting once a week. But I can't justify what he will get to bring him back.
It's a good question. I think the thought was that was better against righthanders and Hairston was better against lefties. And while their individual splits did bear that out, Hairstons lesser side was STILL better than Duda's better side. Of course giving him all hte at-bats may not necessarily have played out that way, but on paper at least it does look like Hairston should've been playing every day, particularly in the second half of the season when this solid season was already brewing. I can understand snubbing him early but by June his numbers were impressive.
   yup, he did a tremendous job last year.  I just don't know if counting on him to be that guy would be a wise decision. Taking into account his injury history & never doing it before.

  I totally agree on Duda to me he will never cut in the major leagues. I think there is too much reliance on number crunching to justify him as a major league player and no evidence to suggest he is other than some small flashes.

I think it's the opposite, actually.  It seems people jumped on the Duda bandwagon based on assumptions drawn from those small flashes, not number crunching.  Statistically speaking, Duda's big league advanced stats have always been all over the place.  He did put up some impressive numbers in AAA, but that isn't always a great indicator of future big league success.

I think Duda is yet another example of eye test gone wrong.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 3:41 PM

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I'm probably in the minority at this point but I still love Duda's swing and- when things are going well- his gap to gap approach.  I still honestly think he could be a 40 2B, 20 HR, .850 OPS guy if everything goes right.

That said, his defensive is horrific in the OF and I have some serious questions about what he has between his ears.  Since ownership doesn't appear to want to spend money I guess Lucas gets another season to get his crap together.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 4:24 PM

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MookieLJL wrote:

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dgLuvsTheMets wrote: I would look into trading him to Toronto for a package involving Lawrie, if you ship Wright out.
Lawrie, Rasmus, and D' Arnaud?????     LOLOLOL J/k

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I know you were kidding but I don't think that's too far off from the sort of package the Mets should demand for Wright if they decide to move him. Alderson would be crucified if he traded DW for much less than that. Maybe the Lawrie and Rasmus equivalents in the deal would be less established but you better get multiple extremely high upside players if you trade Wright.
He isn't going to Toronto (long term) to play on plastic grass.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 5:17 PM

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MookieLJL wrote: I'm probably in the minority at this point but I still love Duda's swing and- when things are going well- his gap to gap approach.  I still honestly think he could be a 40 2B, 20 HR, .850 OPS guy if everything goes right.

That said, his defensive is horrific in the OF and I have some serious questions about what he has between his ears.  Since ownership doesn't appear to want to spend money I guess Lucas gets another season to get his crap together.
I don't deny that he could do that at his best, I just have no faith that he could do that consistently. I could see him doing it for like a month at a time, maybe 2-3 times a season, and then tanking the rest of the time. And even if by some stroke of luck he does put together like 5-6 good months and have a consistent season like that, I'd think that's probably his "career year" type output, and not something he'll repeat season after season.
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