http://www.azcentral.com/commu...cr-coach30.html

Thats sad.  They have a good group of coaches at Basha.  Its sucks Levy wasn't able to make better decisions.

What's sadder is that he refs ACYFL games and isn't a bad ref. Oh well, bad decision=bad consequence

The problem is that he was exposed to the players at Basha.  I don't care how good of a coach he was, where he played his college football, or how great he was with the kids.  He can be the nicest man in the world, but to have that kind of track record (domestic violence, drugs, DUI, etc.) is horrible.

The Basha administration had no idea about this?  The Basha coaching staff had no idea of this? 

I am happy my son went to Mesquite.  Didn't win many games, but learned a lot about life skills, hard work, and how to work as a part of a team.  Go Wildcats!

Actually that article explains a lot of things to me- unfortunate for him and the Basha program which some will cast in a nagative light because of his association with them.

A lot of BS here.  If you know anything about the CUSD, you will understand pretty quickly that this is a witch hunt.  A certain powerhouse in the district who is feeling threatened by their "little brother" has long, devious tentacles.  CL is a standup guy who is being smeared for one reason only: a changing of the guard is taking place in Chandler and the omnipotent ruler is feeling the heat.  Go get 'em Chuck!

Cali that was a stupid and ignorant group of statements right there...I expect a little bit better posts out of you.

I don't know Chuck, never met him, never even seen him as far as I know, but I will say this.

We all associate with people on a daily basis that either do drugs, have a history of drug abuse, use, DUI's, alcoholism, etc etc...Does that make them a bad influence on kids? No.

Dude, come on man. You gotta be kidding me. That was stupid of you to say. 95 percent of head coaches in this state drink outside of school and football, do they not? I do not have absolute accurate stats but i would guarantee half of the coaches in this world, let alone our state have tried drugs before. Sadly, it is part of growing up in most circumstances.

For you to say that (indirectly) guys that have a brief history with the law should not be able to "associate" with kids or a football team, that is dead wrong and ridiculous.

Bite your tongue.

bigmrwoogs all I can say is there are strict guidelines that are associated when you want to work with kids at any level and once you break them you give up the chance.

I am not debating anything but the rules and regulations that the legistlature has set based on what you must do or not do that constitutes getting a clearance card to actively either be a paid or unpaid volunteer in the Education system.

As a HC when I have young former players or even any volunteer or paid staff who are not certified as a teacher I ask them if they are ready to set aside things they may traditionally be accustomed to like partying etc. because once they join my staff they represent me, community and the school. ( I tell certified the same but already I assume they know what will decimate their career or not.)

Especially in a small town where young adults may frequent places where they will be seen and even be at the same parties as the young adults they coach there is no way that can happen and you can be successful as a role model for my team.

I can count tons of formers players who I know partied in the small towns I coached and I told them that they had to stop going to the same places community and others attend and if they cannot live up to those expectations then they need to not join my staff and I tell them if I get word from community members stating otherwise they are gone.

Just my 2 cents.

But then again my staff or myself are not allowed to cuss at kids or at all so you know where I stand on some issues.

My philosophy is "whatever can get you fired in the classroom is not allowed on my field" as academics comes first and as a coach my coaching is an extension of the classroom.

Those that can deal with it coach with me and those who cannot don't. But I do not lower these expectations.

Woogs I think you need to inderstand that society places a great deal of responsibility on institutions like schools to ensure those who interact with thier kids meet a high standard- Cali was voicing that concern.  Now some will definately have an attitude that people make mistakes and should be deserving of 2nd chances but not all will feel that way.  I agree getting a DUI does not make one a bad person undeserving to be around kids however mistakes in judgement often come with unforseen circumstances depending on where you work and live.  Being less then forth coming with those problems also shows some flaws in charactor others can judge harshly- it may not be fair but certain professions place people under a microscope and any thing that places a person in contact with kids certainly does that.  I actually interviewed Chuck this past spring for a position on my staff and found him to be very personable and highly qualified in regards to his football knowledge and professed a philosophy I agreed with- I am truly disappointed for him as I do believe he's a good person.

LOL, Nasty I was thinking along the same lines- some folks enjoy a conspiracy regardless of how silly it sounds.

bigmrwoogs wrote:

Cali that was a stupid and ignorant group of statements right there...I expect a little bit better posts out of you.

 

I don't know Chuck, never met him, never even seen him as far as I know, but I will say this.

 

We all associate with people on a daily basis that either do drugs, have a history of drug abuse, use, DUI's, alcoholism, etc etc...Does that make them a bad influence on kids? No.

 

Dude, come on man. You gotta be kidding me. That was stupid of you to say. 95 percent of head coaches in this state drink outside of school and football, do they not?

 

 

For you to say that (indirectly) guys that have a brief history with the law should not be able to "associate" with kids or a football team, that is dead wrong and ridiculous.

 

 

Woogs-- I will say this.  Domestic violence is something that I personally cannot stand and would not want ANYONE to be associated with.  Coaches drink all the time, even me.  We just tend not to get arrested or drink and drive.  Some coaches probably have done a drug or two in the past.  Does it mean they are bad people, no.  Driving under the influence with pot in your glove box while you are employed by a school system and are in contact with kids...very wrong. 

Getting arrested in front of your players (twice) - - I would have a tough time showing my face at that school again.  And to say that it is a rival school that is driving this witch hunt, are you serious?  I think one of his arrests was over 10 years ago.  I highly doubt that Hamilton and Chandler thought  about Mr. Levy when he was getting taken off to jail.

You say you have never met the man.  Neither have I.  I will say that when I read about a person in the paper that has a history of drugs, DUI, and domestic violence the first thing that comes to my mind is not:  "Lets give him a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th chance.  In fact, lets put him in the school system so he can coach kids."

I expect great things from people in the educational system, regardless of what school they are from.  I do have a problem with people who have DUI's, domestic violence, and a history of drugs.  I don't want my kids to be exposed to such individuals anywhere, especially on school grounds. 

Someone should let Mr. Levy know:  You can run from the police, but you can never run from your past.

CaliConnection wrote:

 

 

Someone should let Mr. Levy know:  You can run from the police, but you can never run from your past.

 

 

You know, in some states, running from the po-lice is a felony... :)

And don't felony charges show up on a background check? Just sayin'....

Here's a sad stat. On average, a person drives under the influence 80 times before they are cited for DUI/DWI the first time. SOunds like a lot of undesriable people are out there, but they are not former hi-profile players and current coaches.

Some people will excuse anything, especially if they are a lawyer.

moneyman55 wrote:

A lot of BS here.  If you know anything about the CUSD, you will understand pretty quickly that this is a witch hunt.  A certain powerhouse in the district who is feeling threatened by their "little brother" has long, devious tentacles.  CL is a standup guy who is being smeared for one reason only: a changing of the guard is taking place in Chandler and the omnipotent ruler is feeling the heat.  Go get 'em Chuck!

You might be a little premature on the "changing of the guard".

Basha is still behind Hamilton and Chandler and they appear to be there for the next few years.

And I don't think that the new option of attending Perry will help Basha very much..

Im in agreement with everyone else, this has to be the most ignorant statement ever posted in a forum.  You must be smoking something as well, do you have any proof/facts or a way of validating this? Coaches have enough on their plates and now there are guys out here setting other coaches up................he set himself up with his behavior! And as far as a changing of the guard are you kidding me? Basha has a long way to go before they can even be considered a challenger in the east valley!

moneyman55 wrote:

A lot of BS here.  If you know anything about the CUSD, you will understand pretty quickly that this is a witch hunt.  A certain powerhouse in the district who is feeling threatened by their "little brother" has long, devious tentacles.  CL is a standup guy who is being smeared for one reason only: a changing of the guard is taking place in Chandler and the omnipotent ruler is feeling the heat.  Go get 'em Chuck!

He was high and in possession on his way to football practice....... Woogs, come on now.

Video:  http://www.azfamily.com/news/l...d-67458192.html

CaliConnection wrote:

The problem is that he was exposed to the players at Basha.  I don't care how good of a coach he was, where he played his college football, or how great he was with the kids.  He can be the nicest man in the world, but to have that kind of track record (domestic violence, drugs, DUI, etc.) is horrible.

 

The Basha administration had no idea about this?  The Basha coaching staff had no idea of this? 

 

I am happy my son went to Mesquite.  Didn't win many games, but learned a lot about life skills, hard work, and how to work as a part of a team.  Go Wildcats!

Ditto!  I want my boys around the same type of staff!  Shame on CL he should have been more forthright on his paperwork and the AD should have checked his past more thouroghly.

Where is Woogs?