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Welcome back to Arizona Mr. Westerman!

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Posted: 12/12/2012 7:22 PM

Welcome back to Arizona Mr. Westerman! 


Source: Auburn offensive lineman Christian Westerman was granted his release and signed his scholarship paperwork with ASU today.

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Posted: 12/12/2012 8:02 PM

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i hope this is true.  the what if's but what if more of our kids would just stay local in the first place.  it's not like asu doesn't send players to the pro's.  i am not sure what hot chicks, great weather, mom's home cookin isn't good enough for our home town kids.
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Posted: 12/12/2012 9:30 PM

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I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?
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Posted: 12/12/2012 9:34 PM

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truephxboy wrote: i hope this is true.  the what if's but what if more of our kids would just stay local in the first place.  it's not like asu doesn't send players to the pro's.  i am not sure what hot chicks, great weather, mom's home cookin isn't good enough for our home town kids.

Who would want to commit to Graham at ASU when he himself isn't able to commit to a program as head coach? 4 programs in 6 years......not a very good track record.
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Posted: 12/12/2012 9:40 PM

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TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?
Very few colleges can just recruit locally and be successful, but there have been a number of local guys in recent years to be a force at the next level, here's a few: Taylor Lewan (MICHIGAN), Craig Roh (MICHIGAN), Devonte Neal (NOTRE DAME), Prince Amukamara (NEBRASKA/NY GIANTS), Cameron Jordan (CAL/NO SAINTS),
Eric Haag (NEBRASKA/CLEV BROWNS), Brett Hundley (UCLA)
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Posted: 12/12/2012 9:51 PM

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hunkiecooper wrote:
TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?
Very few colleges can just recruit locally and be successful, but there have been a number of local guys in recent years to be a force at the next level, here's a few: Taylor Lewan (MICHIGAN), Craig Roh (MICHIGAN), Devonte Neal (NOTRE DAME), Prince Amukamara (NEBRASKA/NY GIANTS), Cameron Jordan (CAL/NO SAINTS),
Eric Haag (NEBRASKA/CLEV BROWNS), Brett Hundley (UCLA)

I remember him at Nebraska, had no idea he was from AZ. Great player!
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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:17 PM

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Good to come home... He RS, had a few injuries and folks they had RS FS and Soph at Auburn getting the majority of the minutes... Bottomline SEC football and talent does not always workout for the 4-5 stars.......

This player, ASU will give him the chance but the stars do not promise minutes.... Read Bellis comment remember Patrick Jamison big kid and flamed out..... 50/50 on this one as well... Would be shocked but NCAA will force RS and only two years to play...
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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:25 PM

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TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?

Yes because the Univ of Texas has had so much success with their almost all texas teams.....

Another note I am hearing Auburn is not releasing him from Scholarship yet.

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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:57 PM

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TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?


Both Oregon and Stanford have stud defensive ends (Jordan at Oregon and Murphy at Stanford) that are products of Arizona.  Jordan is thought of as a sure-fire first-round pick in this year's draft.

 

Kisima Jagne (formerly of Chandler High and Colorado...gray-shirted this year as a late qualifier from what I've been told) also appears headed to the Devils.

"You've got to remember, that these are just simple farmers, these are people of the land, the common clay of the new west. You know . . . morons."

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Posted: 12/13/2012 1:14 PM

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FootballFanatic2009 wrote:
TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?

Yes because the Univ of Texas has had so much success with their almost all texas teams.....

Another note I am hearing Auburn is not releasing him from Scholarship yet.
Does the coaching change at Auburn allow them to transfer without having to sit a year?
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Posted: 12/13/2012 1:16 PM

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2013Watcher wrote:
FootballFanatic2009 wrote:
TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?

Yes because the Univ of Texas has had so much success with their almost all texas teams.....

Another note I am hearing Auburn is not releasing him from Scholarship yet.
Does the coaching change at Auburn allow them to transfer without having to sit a year?
No, but the possible sanctions coming for Auburn will.  If they are sanctioned by the NCAA (think the immediately eligible transfers from USC, Penn State, etc.) then he should be able to play at ASU next fall.  If they are not sanctioned then he'll have to burn a redshirt year.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 7:59 PM

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FootballFanatic2009 wrote:
TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?

Yes because the Univ of Texas has had so much success with their almost all texas teams.....

Another note I am hearing Auburn is not releasing him from Scholarship yet.
It wasn't a flame man I just think some would be pretty disappointed in the results if ASU fielded a mostly AZ player team.

PS guess where the last 2 heisman winners and the first 2 picks of the 2012 NFL draft were from?

Don't make this a state vs state battle. I hate that crap and am here because I enjoy az football and want to somewhat keep up with it. I love all hs football, obviously my heart lies in TX but I enjoy a lot of other states as well. And have family ties in AZ.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 9:16 PM

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I am not trying to be rude. I am a texas fan. I have been watching Texas football and amazed how they get like 90% Texas recruits and they are not a dominating program. They bring in the most money, but something is not working. Is it coaching? What is it? We can't compare Az to Texas that's just not possible, Texas football is like a religion and it amazes me to see it. I was at Desoto high school this summer and I was in awe of their facility. Not jealous about the weather though.

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FootballFanatic2009 wrote:
TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?

Yes because the Univ of Texas has had so much success with their almost all texas teams.....

Another note I am hearing Auburn is not releasing him from Scholarship yet.
It wasn't a flame man I just think some would be pretty disappointed in the results if ASU fielded a mostly AZ player team.

PS guess where the last 2 heisman winners and the first 2 picks of the 2012 NFL draft were from?

Don't make this a state vs state battle. I hate that crap and am here because I enjoy az football and want to somewhat keep up with it. I love all hs football, obviously my heart lies in TX but I enjoy a lot of other states as well. And have family ties in AZ.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:42 AM

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Westerman burned his RS last season with the bad ankle. Is there an issue for players transferring before possible sanctions are issued? Anyone know if those transferring are reinstated once the sanctions are imposed (retroactively)? Otherwise it looks like he has to sit this year.

http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2012/12 /report_auburns_christian_weste.html
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Posted: 12/14/2012 7:48 AM

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Isn't it a little early to call Davonte Neal a "force" at the next level?  All I've really seen is a bunch of fair catches....

And I think you should have mentioned DJ Foster, who was a Freshman All-American

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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:44 AM

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TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?
That's funny.  Two Arizona products made the AP All-American team this season.  Another was third team.  Terrell Suggs would also probably have something to say about Arizona high school kids not doing well at the next level.  As would: Levi Jones, Mike Bell, Markus Wheaton, Kenny Wheaton (Go ask someone in Oregon about him.  He's a legend in that state.), the Cades, Curley Culp, Danny White, Darnell Autry (finalist for the Heisman), Ryan Fitzpatrick (starting QB for the Bills), and on and on.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:53 AM

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TXhsfootball21 wrote:
hunkiecooper wrote:
TXhsfootball21 wrote: I keep seeing this a lot. I'm really not hating but I don't think ASU could just recruit locally and be any good. The only guy I personally can recall being a force from AZ at the next level was Everson Griffen (I don't see a whole lot of pac ball out here) Stanford and Oregon do seem to be though but there is quite a few TX kids on both of those teams maybe that's why?
Very few colleges can just recruit locally and be successful, but there have been a number of local guys in recent years to be a force at the next level, here's a few: Taylor Lewan (MICHIGAN), Craig Roh (MICHIGAN), Devonte Neal (NOTRE DAME), Prince Amukamara (NEBRASKA/NY GIANTS), Cameron Jordan (CAL/NO SAINTS),
Eric Haag (NEBRASKA/CLEV BROWNS), Brett Hundley (UCLA)

I remember him at Nebraska, had no idea he was from AZ. Great player!
He has five sisters, named Princess, Promise, Peace, Precious, and Passionate.[3] Prince is of Royal Nigerian descent,[4][5] and his grandfather was the chief of Awo-Omamma in the Imo State of Nigeria.[6] He is currently next in line to be the chief.[3] His mother competed for Nigeria at the 1984 Summer Olympics in track and field.
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Isnt his sister, Promise, the former POY in basketball and she's at ASU??
Boy, he sure comes from a family of underacheivers...
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Posted: 12/14/2012 9:02 AM

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Tyler Johnson (Hamilton) started as a RS Freshman at Oregon.

Andrus Peat had hand surgery and played with a large cast as a true freshman,  His PT really picked up at the end of the year.  He will be the starting LT next year if not at the Rose Bowl.

Marcus Wheaton killed ASU in the OSU game.

K'Deem Carey is going to be a first round draft choice.

I get tired of these threads trashing Arizona players, Every Saturday I was watching AZ players on the field for the other teams.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 2:15 PM

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Westerman will have to sit. IF Auburn is sanctioned he will have left before they ever come down, which will be quite some time before it happens.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 3:19 PM

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azthreadkiller wrote: Tyler Johnson (Hamilton) started as a RS Freshman at Oregon.

Andrus Peat had hand surgery and played with a large cast as a true freshman,  His PT really picked up at the end of the year.  He will be the starting LT next year if not at the Rose Bowl.

Marcus Wheaton killed ASU in the OSU game.

K'Deem Carey is going to be a first round draft choice.

I get tired of these threads trashing Arizona players, Every Saturday I was watching AZ players on the field for the other teams.
Nobody was trashing AZ players I was just curious because a lot dont make it out this way. Haven't got to see what Brewer is about yet. I actually just remembered one I say play at DV in 2004, TE Zach Miller kid was a stud. And being a Texas fan I was expecting big things for Matt Clapp at OU but I guess that is kind of hard to do playing FB.

I think Chans Cox will be a solid player at the next level.
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