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Posted: 12/07/2012 1:31 PM

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When is the anticipated release date of next years schedule?
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Posted: 12/07/2012 1:54 PM

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I believe it's this Tuesday afternoon.
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Posted: 12/07/2012 7:20 PM

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You won't see a final schedule until sometime in the spring.
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Posted: 12/07/2012 8:29 PM

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The initial sections will come out on Tuesday.  Schools have a month to appeal their section (but not division) placing.

Final sections will come out in January and you will know what teams your school will play for sure (all of the teams within their section), but you won't know the dates or sites yet.

The schedules won't be released to the schools until April 19.  It is then up to the schools themselves if they want to edit them or make them known to everyone yet.

Some schools will put them up on their web sites and they will slowly be put out there for the masses to see.

The final "official" versions aren't released on the AIA web site until July 3.
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Posted: 12/09/2012 10:42 AM

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I heard a rumor that the AIA is contemplating combining D1 & 2 for football only which would give 73 schools in the combined divisions instead of the 29 schools presently in D1, and break that into 12 six team regionals (1 would have 7 teams). This combined division would have a 32 team playoff using the 12 regional winners as auto bids and using the seeding power points for both D1 & 2 to determine the other playoff teams.
Inasmuch as there isn't that much difference between the level of D1 & 2 schools it sounds like a pretty interesting concept.
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Posted: 12/09/2012 11:19 AM

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Then why have D1 and D2? There is no "combining for football only" as the division placement is different in every sport. It completely eliminates the need for the distinction in football. Why would the AIA come up with a plan that throws away all of the work that it just did to create the Divisions and approve or deny the various appeals for all of those schools. It would also ignore the reason for creating the Divisions in the first place - which is competition based. Sounds like a pretty far fetched rumor.
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Posted: 12/09/2012 11:54 AM

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Hamilton Freedom Games

Liberty from Henderson NV.

Pinnacle

Ironwood Ridge 

Brophy 

_______________ Looking for one more freedom game?


Mountain View---- is out didn't think it was a good fit for them after looking at there Region.

Last edited 12/13/2012 5:41 AM by Varsity2005

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Posted: 12/09/2012 3:45 PM

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I guess that means the De La Salle (CA) attempt fell through for Hamilton.

Just a word on Bishop Gorman, The Gaels won the championship over Liberty last week, 63-10.  BG played 10 teams from Nevada and won all of them by an average of 49.5 points!  The closest game was the semifinals (49-24).

No word on whether the AIA will bring them back for the Sollenberger next August.
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Posted: 12/09/2012 4:35 PM

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Word out there on the Sollenberger is Mountain Pointe will Play Bishop Gorman and Hamilton is to play a West Texas school in the Kickoff Classic.

De La Salle was not up for a Home and Home game!
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Posted: 12/09/2012 8:34 PM

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Far fetched? Right up the AIA alley
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Then why have D1 and D2? There is no "combining for football only" as the division placement is different in every sport. It completely eliminates the need for the distinction in football. Why would the AIA come up with a plan that throws away all of the work that it just did to create the Divisions and approve or deny the various appeals for all of those schools. It would also ignore the reason for creating the Divisions in the first place - which is competition based. Sounds like a pretty far fetched rumor.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 6:35 AM

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Varsity2005 wrote: Word out there on the Sollenberger is Mountain Pointe will Play Bishop Gorman and Hamilton is to play a West Texas school in the Kickoff Classic.

De La Salle was not up for a Home and Home game!
Will the Sollenberger games be played in Nevada (Gorman game), Flagstaff or at Cardinal Stadium?  Probably to early to ask, but I thought I would throw it out there.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 7:56 AM

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Varsity2005 wrote: Word out there on the Sollenberger is Mountain Pointe will Play Bishop Gorman and Hamilton is to play a West Texas school in the Kickoff Classic.

De La Salle was not up for a Home and Home game!
I don't understand why Mountain Pointe would play BG when they lost in the state championship game.  Why wouldn't that go to either Hamilton or Ironwood Ridge?
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Posted: 12/10/2012 8:08 AM

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CoyoteFan wrote:
Varsity2005 wrote: Word out there on the Sollenberger is Mountain Pointe will Play Bishop Gorman and Hamilton is to play a West Texas school in the Kickoff Classic.

De La Salle was not up for a Home and Home game!
I don't understand why Mountain Pointe would play BG when they lost in the state championship game.  Why wouldn't that go to either Hamilton or Ironwood Ridge?
Yes that doesn't make any sense at all.  MP shouldn't be included at all.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 8:36 AM

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CoyoteFan wrote:
Varsity2005 wrote: Word out there on the Sollenberger is Mountain Pointe will Play Bishop Gorman and Hamilton is to play a West Texas school in the Kickoff Classic.

De La Salle was not up for a Home and Home game!
I don't understand why Mountain Pointe would play BG when they lost in the state championship game.  Why wouldn't that go to either Hamilton or Ironwood Ridge?

If Sollenberger is just previous year's state champs then yes Ironwood Ridge if Hamilton cannot play (scheduled another out of state game). Realize though IWR is losing the majority of their talent and they would get killed by BG who has one of the best 2014 RBs in nation on their squad among other things. Mountain Pointe with their standout 2014 class would be a much better matchup for Arizona.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:23 AM

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Mountain Pointe is supposed to play the team from Texas (trying to get Odessa Permian) and Hamilton playing Bishop Gorman. Hamilton doesn't want to play BG and wants to play the Texas team.

Mp is only involved because they are trying to expand and maybe eventually end agreement with Nevada.
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Posted: 12/11/2012 9:55 AM

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Because division placement is the different in every sport is the exact reason that they are looking to combine football only.  You can't have 16 teams coming out of a 29 team division playing for state; that's just plain stupid.


gottawin100 wrote:
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Then why have D1 and D2? There is no "combining for football only" as the division placement is different in every sport. It completely eliminates the need for the distinction in football. Why would the AIA come up with a plan that throws away all of the work that it just did to create the Divisions and approve or deny the various appeals for all of those schools. It would also ignore the reason for creating the Divisions in the first place - which is competition based. Sounds like a pretty far fetched rumor.

Last edited 12/11/2012 9:58 AM by SirWalter43

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Posted: 12/11/2012 10:18 AM

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One thing for sure about the AIA is that they are not likely to spend so much of their time on something and then just ignore it. You can have 16 teams coming out of a 29 team field. One of the proposals on the table is to have all 29 teams in the playoffs like some other states do. I think its a lousy idea, but other states dont and so the AIA is considering it (I think those other states dont keep scores or stats and have the teams drink kool aide and eat PB and J together after the games as well). The more likely decision will be to have a 12 team D1 playoff field.

The D1, D2, D3, D4, D5 and D6 distinctions have been created for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is competition based. Dont expect it to go away this season or next.
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Posted: 12/11/2012 10:36 AM

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SirWalter43 wrote:

Because division placement is the different in every sport is the exact reason that they are looking to combine football only.  You can't have 16 teams coming out of a 29 team division playing for state; that's just plain stupid.



Why not?  If the seedings were used for this year, this is the playoff schedule we would see:

#1 Mt. Pointe vs. #16 Horizon
#2 Desert Ridge vs. #15 Perry
#3 Hamilton vs. #14 Highland
#4 Brophy vs. #13 Chandler
#5 Red Mountain vs. #12 Basha
#6 Desert Vista vs. #11 Westview
#7 Pinnacle vs. #10 Desert Mountain
#8 Chavez vs. #9 Mesa Mt. View

I think those are some pretty good matchups, personally.  And, the thirteen teams that would not have made it in would be:

Valley Vista (8-2)
Millennium (7-3)
Mt. Ridge (5-5)
Boulder Creek (6-4)
Corona del Sol (4-6)
Skyline (5-5)
Sandra Day O'Connor (3-7)
Gilbert (3-7)
Mesa (2-8)
North Canyon (2-8)
Dobson (1-9)
North (2-8)
Maryvale (0-10)

I know it's an apples and oranges comparison considering the scheduling will be different next year, but there are a couple deserving programs that would be left out of the playoff picture all together, while EVERY team that would have made the D1 playoffs would have been a playoff team anyway.  If anything, it hurts the lower level classifications because more teams are competing for fewer spots in the playoffs.  Again, I don't have a problem with the new divisional placements because I think competitive sports are more benficial than keeping numbers consistent among divisions.  And, I see a very competitive Division One for the next couple of years.
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Posted: 12/12/2012 10:43 AM

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Reducing the number of D1 teams making the playoffs is ridiculous!  Whats the argument here... 50% of the D1 teams make the playoff when 1/3 of the lower divisions make the playoffs.  That argument has ZERO validity.  Numerous teams REQUESTED/PETITIONED to drop out of D1.  All that the those schools did by petitioning down is, bump teams out of the playoff picture thet have been perennial playoff teams but not yet championship caliber.  I mean teams that made the playoffs in D1 this year, but moved down a division?  How is that allowed to happen?  

You can't punish the schools that chose to stay in D1 or petition up to D1, to play with the best talent in the state.  And that's what you do by reducing the D1 playoff field.  The only ones arguing for the reduction are those with ties to the smaller schools.  Sounds like spilled milk.  Focus on making those sub-par programs better, so maybe one day they can come back to where the other big schools are and compete with the elite of the state.
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Posted: 12/12/2012 6:35 PM

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There isn't that much difference between the competion in D1 & D2.  I looked at the new seeding power points for both divisions and if there was a 32 game playoff this year 18 D1 teams would be in and 14 D2 teams.

The only argument to not combining the two divisions is that there would be one less trophy but the completion and suspense level would be much greater.  When that many schools compete there is no Hamilton, Chaparral, Mountain Pointe or Ironwood Ridge shoe in.  That format really opens up the field.

Last edited 12/12/2012 6:38 PM by SirWalter43

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