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Posted: 11/06/2012 5:27 PM

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Should a school that has evening school or a school within the school, like a night school...affect the enrollment of a high school. To me that would be like an alternative school in Coolidge affecting their enrollment (if they have one). Students attending a night school on the campus of a high school should not count in the enrollment for the day school.

thoughts?

    Should night school count for enrollment?

  1. Poll closed on 11/13/2012
  2. yes: 7 votes
  3. no: 25 votes

Last edited 11/06/2012 5:29 PM by phxfbcoach

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Posted: 11/06/2012 5:34 PM

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Not only no, but HELL NO!
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Posted: 11/06/2012 5:34 PM

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Also applies to 4 more years....
AZMcHenry wrote: Not only no, but HELL NO!
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Posted: 11/06/2012 6:50 PM

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Are students who attend night school/alternative school, etc. eligible to play sports?  (rhetorical question, but worth a thought)
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Posted: 11/06/2012 6:51 PM

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I would say yes only if the night school students are allowed to participate in enrollment based activities. In 2008 our QB was enrolled in an alternate program affiliated with KHS which was included in its enrollment.

   


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Posted: 11/06/2012 9:39 PM

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If those alternative students are eligible for sports, then heck yeah they should be counted in the enrollment!
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Posted: 11/07/2012 9:02 AM

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It is impossible for those students to play if they are in a night school class, but some great comments, thanks
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Posted: 11/07/2012 9:11 AM

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What about kids that are routinely academically ineligible, and students that will never go out for sports, should they be counted towards your sports classification?
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Posted: 11/07/2012 9:58 AM

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That's a tricky question because that starts to bring up should special education students count, when most of the time these students will not be playing sports.  One thought process I have always had is why not come up with divisions or sections not based on enrollment but instead based on free and reduced lunch.  That is a better indication of what the make up of each school is compared to just overall population.  A school that 75% of the students are on free or reduced lunch has no chance competing in many cases. 

Just a thought to discuss.
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Posted: 11/07/2012 10:27 AM

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Or use your Soph, Jr, and SR. class on track to graduate (if they are not they shouldn't be playing sports), Frosh class are always your largest, but very rarely do they ever compete in Varsity sport.  Id bet many of the petitioning schools have large Frosh classes and a high drop out rate.

I used to coach at a school that would give out prizes (gift certificates, electronic devices, etc.) on the 40th and 100th day count which would construe(sp?) our enrollment count.

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Posted: 11/07/2012 12:25 PM

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great point....There are several PUHSD schools that have frosh classes over 700...

Why not just measure a school by grades 10-12 in division 1-3, that could work. I wonder what Sunnyslopes class is if they took out the frosh class?
Tangled wrote: Or use your Soph, Jr, and SR. class on track to graduate (if they are not they shouldn't be playing sports), Frosh class are always your largest, but very rarely do they ever compete in Varsity sport.  Id bet many of the petitioning schools have large Frosh classes and a high drop out rate.

I used to coach at a school that would give out prizes (gift certificates, electronic devices, etc.) on the 40th and 100th day count which would construe(sp?) our enrollment count.
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Posted: 11/07/2012 7:34 PM

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As for night school students not able to play sports, I disagree. 
Kids are in night class for all sorts of reasons......and they can have other times free to play sports.  (not the norm, but it is possible and therefore should be counted)

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Posted: 11/09/2012 9:02 AM

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Or use your Soph, Jr, and SR. class on track to graduate (if they are not they shouldn't be playing sports), Frosh class are always your largest, but very rarely do they ever compete in Varsity sport.  Id bet many of the petitioning schools have large Frosh classes and a high drop out rate.

I used to coach at a school that would give out prizes (gift certificates, electronic devices, etc.) on the 40th and 100th day count which would construe(sp?) our enrollment count.

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That is a really intriguing concept. This alone would make a huge difference in many Phoenix Union schools. It would also allow newly growing areas time to build their programs before they were thrust into a higher division. I think ranchandkc should recalculate the DKC ratings without freshmen and see how the divisions shape up.
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