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News from B1G Conference Meetings
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Posted: 2/11/2013 5:00 PM
News from B1G Conference Meetings
Rittenberg/Bennett @ ESPN_BigTen Just talked to Jim Delany. Said ADs and coaches only discussing 9- and 10-game league schedule models. No support to stay at 8 games.
Also as expected, division alignment talk centered on geography. It'll be some type of geographical split, but also need competitive balance
Rittenberg/Bennett @ espn_bigten here's big one for fans: if schools want to play primetime games in november, b1g won't stand in their way. coaches want more night games
rittenberg/bennett @ espn_bigten the new b1g schedules (9 or 10 games) likely would go into effect for 2016 or 2017. wouldn't happen right after maryland/rutgers join
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Posted: 2/11/2013 5:41 PM
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9 or 10 games is screwing ourselves...
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Posted: 2/11/2013 5:56 PM
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If you are going to go to 16 team conferences, you have to do at least 9. If you do 10, you can guarantee yourself 7 home games each year. With the increase in money from the conference, we should be just fine with 7 home games. |
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Posted: 2/11/2013 6:27 PM
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I think we will go to 10 conference games
think of it like the current 8 game conference schedules and playing 2 bcs schools in home and home each year. This is going to happen for the playoffs. This way you can have 1 cupcake non conference, 1 bcs non conference, and 10 conference games
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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:18 PM
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Rittenberg/Bennett @ ESPN_BigTen Just talked to Jim Delany. Said ADs and coaches only discussing 9- and 10-game league schedule models. No support to stay at 8 games.
Rittenberg/Bennett @ espn_bigten
here's big one for fans: if schools want to play primetime games in november, b1g won't stand in their way. coaches want more night games
For fans watching on TV. They're not thinking of fan comfort for those attending the games. Possibly very cold conditions in November. Long, late night drive home after a game or having to stay at a hotel before heading back the nest day.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:17 PM
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They are thinking of the recruits that play on Friday night and can't get to an 11am or 12 pm game.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:05 PM
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I disagree...more conference games will be good for chances in playoff system..
Nothing gained from paying four bad non conference games..
Strength of schedule is everything...I think big ten champ will be in almost any playoff scenario....in the future...same with sec
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9 or 10 games is screwing ourselves...
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Posted: 2/12/2013 6:52 AM
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DoubleE wrote: I think we will go to 10 conference games
think of it like the current 8 game conference schedules and playing 2 bcs schools in home and home each year. This is going to happen for the playoffs. This way you can have 1 cupcake non conference, 1 bcs non conference, and 10 conference games If we go to this model I hope they follow the SEC by placing the cupcake close to the end of the season almost like a second bye week. “I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.”
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Posted: 2/12/2013 7:44 AM
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I was thinking it would be 9 B1G games - but given the difficulties getting games scheduled I could see why schools might want to go to 10 games.
It might cut NU down to 6 home games on years we have to play a non-conf on the road - unless we go to cupcakes only for the 2 non-conf games. Which is what the SEC does most of the time.
9 non-confs allows 7 home games every year - therefor that seems like the most likely scenario to me.
"That what make you, can also break you." Mr Rhythm (D.C. Cab)
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Posted: 2/12/2013 8:03 AM
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saunders45 wrote: 9 or 10 games is screwing ourselves... I don't think so if we can somehow get the conference champion an automatic bid to an 8 team playoff. |
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Posted: 2/12/2013 8:58 AM
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Blindcheck wrote:
I disagree...more conference games will be good for chances in playoff system..
Nothing gained from paying four bad non conference games..
Strength of schedule is everything...I think big ten champ will be in almost any playoff scenario....in the future...same with sec
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9 or 10 games is screwing ourselves...
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Posted: 2/12/2013 9:04 AM
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saunders45 wrote:
Blindcheck wrote:
I disagree...more conference games will be good for chances in playoff system..
Nothing gained from paying four bad non conference games..
Strength of schedule is everything...I think big ten champ will be in almost any playoff scenario....in the future...same with sec
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--- saunders45 wrote:
9 or 10 games is screwing ourselves...
--------------------------------------------- SOS only works when you have teams playing teams outside your conference. If we play 10 conference games, that dilutes the chances of playing quality OOC games. The SEC isn't going to 9-10 games anytime soon, because they know they can get 2 teams into the playoff on hype. Unfortunately we're (B1G) not the SEC and when we play strong OOC opponents we tend to get spanked. Far better to play more conference games in an attempt to keep our mediocrity on the down-low until playoff time. |
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Posted: 2/12/2013 11:51 AM
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yutan87 wrote: If you do 10, you can guarantee yourself 7 home games each year. With the increase in money from the conference, we should be just fine with 7 home games. In that model, you kiss goodbye playing any team worth a crap in the non con again. "If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have fairly good players, which I think we do, then I think there are some systemic issues." - Tom Osborne
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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:43 PM
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HuskerSambo wrote:
yutan87 wrote: If you do 10, you can guarantee yourself 7 home games each year. With the increase in money from the conference, we should be just fine with 7 home games.
In that model, you kiss goodbye playing any team worth a crap in the non con again. Unfortunately yes. However, I think I would rather play conference opponents from the other division more than twice a decade. I do have a feeling that once they start talking seriously about 10 game conference schedules, the decision makers will start talking about a 13th regular season game as well.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:52 PM
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In my opinion, playing night games in November will make it hard to lure Southern kids to Big Ten schools--kids from the South complain about cold weather--night games in November can be quite cold, generally.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 12:58 PM
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tOSU hosted kids from Texas's and Florida 2 weeks ago on a snowy weekend and they committed.
also Gene Smith stated there would be no change in OOC scheduling strategy for a 9 or 10 game conference slate
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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:00 PM
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I dont mind 9 as long as the SEC goes to 9, especially since the Big 12 and Pac 12 are already at 9. 10 is stupid, unless they add another OOC game IMO. People hate crap games, but i like them so your team can get their feet wet. Would hate to have to play the biggest game of the year in like week 2.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:01 PM
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yutan87 wrote:
HuskerSambo wrote:
yutan87 wrote: If you do 10, you can guarantee yourself 7 home games each year. With the increase in money from the conference, we should be just fine with 7 home games.
In that model, you kiss goodbye playing any team worth a crap in the non con again. Unfortunately yes. However, I think I would rather play conference opponents from the other division more than twice a decade. I do have a feeling that once they start talking seriously about 10 game conference schedules, the decision makers will start talking about a 13th regular season game as well. A 13th game could really make a long season. Not that I wouldn't be for more football, but if you add in a CCG game & the new 4 team playoff that would be a 16 game season. You could add another game if they decided to go to a 8 team playoff. My guess is you would see an 8 team playoff before they add any games to the regular season. “I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.”
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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:07 PM
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Blackshirt96 wrote:
yutan87 wrote:
HuskerSambo wrote:
yutan87 wrote: If you do 10, you can guarantee yourself 7 home games each year. With the increase in money from the conference, we should be just fine with 7 home games.
In that model, you kiss goodbye playing any team worth a crap in the non con again. Unfortunately yes. However, I think I would rather play conference opponents from the other division more than twice a decade. I do have a feeling that once they start talking seriously about 10 game conference schedules, the decision makers will start talking about a 13th regular season game as well.
A 13th game could really make a long season. Not that I wouldn't be for more football, but if you add in a CCG game & the new 4 team playoff that would be a 16 game season. You could add another game if they decided to go to a 8 team playoff.
My guess is you would see an 8 team playoff before they add any games to the regular season. Not to mention that out of all the hypocritical decisons the NCAA has made, going to 13 would be the topper. Since their argument against the playoff all these years has been based on it requires too much of the student athlete to make them play extra games. "If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have fairly good players, which I think we do, then I think there are some systemic issues." - Tom Osborne
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Posted: 2/12/2013 1:47 PM
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Do people really think that? cold weather is a major factor? I dont buy it, OSU has had kids commit from southern states, when it was cold and snowing in Jan. You just need a good coach and people to sell the program...yeah there might be one or two guys stupid enough to pick a school based on it having a Chik Fil A....but who cares rrdls wrote: In my opinion, playing night games in November will make it hard to lure Southern kids to Big Ten schools--kids from the South complain about cold weather--night games in November can be quite cold, generally. |
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Posted: 2/12/2013 2:16 PM
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I don't see 10 games happening. A nine game scenario works decently in a 14 team conference and it's ideal in a 16 team conference if scheduling pods are created.
If done correctly, every team in the conference would appear on your schedule at least once every three years. You'd have to eliminate playing the same schools in back to back years though. For example, let's use a pure geographic split where Purdue comes to the western division and annual crossover games are maintained (Neb vs. Penn St.).
Year 1: at Indiana, home vs. Michigan
Year 2: at Ohio State, home vs. Rutgers
Year 3: at Maryland, home vs. Michigan State
Year 4: at Michigan, home vs. Indiana
Year 5: at Rutgers, home vs. Ohio State
Year 6: at Michigan State, home vs. Maryland
And so on...or until they add teams 15 and 16.
Last edited 2/12/2013 2:17 PM by GoHuskerz
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Posted: 2/12/2013 3:39 PM
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Coaches are against the 9 game conference season because you have 4 home games and 5 away every other year.
In 2016 I can see Ohio State playing Tulsa at home then heading out to Norman, Ok. The next year is open the first week the OU at home. Then 10 B1G games.Personally I like this.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:08 PM
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I want to die peacefully in my sleep like Grandpa, not panic stricken and screaming like everyone else in the car. |
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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:38 PM
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WhatheBuck wrote: Coaches are against the 9 game conference season because you have 4 home games and 5 away every other year.
In 2016 I can see Ohio State playing Tulsa at home then heading out to Norman, Ok. The next year is open the first week the OU at home. Then 10 B1G games.Personally I like this. If it goes to 10 games, I can see those OU types of non con games being few and far between. Coaches may not like 4 & 5 road/home splits, but AD's certainly won't like 6 home game schedules. "If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have fairly good players, which I think we do, then I think there are some systemic issues." - Tom Osborne
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Posted: 2/12/2013 6:19 PM
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you figure the schools brings in aprox 100,000 at $80 a ticket, so thats $8 million in revenue for a home game......
i dont know if increased TV revenue would make up for this
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Posted: 2/12/2013 11:25 PM
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I hope the powers that be...penalize teams that play only 4 or 5 road games when choosing teams for the playoff.
I sure hope they do...that would solve the "excuses" of why teams have to have 7 home games.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:49 AM
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Blindcheck wrote: I hope the powers that be...penalize teams that play only 4 or 5 road games when choosing teams for the playoff.
I sure hope they do...that would solve the "excuses" of why teams have to have 7 home games. While I do see and understand where you're coming from, the main excuse/reason of why teams want and want/need 7 home games still remains. That being, other sports aren't self sustainable. That extra home game goes a long ways in with the athletic budget. "If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have fairly good players, which I think we do, then I think there are some systemic issues." - Tom Osborne
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Posted: 2/13/2013 1:56 AM
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I hear ya, but they had to live off 6 home games until the went to 12 games...they can do it....I really hate it that the "need" so many home games....rubbish...run your department efficiently.... HuskerSambo wrote:
WhatheBuck wrote: Coaches are against the 9 game conference season because you have 4 home games and 5 away every other year.
In 2016 I can see Ohio State playing Tulsa at home then heading out to Norman, Ok. The next year is open the first week the OU at home. Then 10 B1G games.Personally I like this.
If it goes to 10 games, I can see those OU types of non con games being few and far between.
Coaches may not like 4 & 5 road/home splits, but AD's certainly won't like 6 home game schedules. |
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Posted: 2/13/2013 2:05 AM
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buckeye4573 wrote: I hear ya, but they had to live off 6 home games until the went to 12 games...they can do it....I really hate it that the "need" so many home games....rubbish...run your department efficiently....
HuskerSambo wrote:
WhatheBuck wrote: Coaches are against the 9 game conference season because you have 4 home games and 5 away every other year.
In 2016 I can see Ohio State playing Tulsa at home then heading out to Norman, Ok. The next year is open the first week the OU at home. Then 10 B1G games.Personally I like this.
If it goes to 10 games, I can see those OU types of non con games being few and far between.
Coaches may not like 4 & 5 road/home splits, but AD's certainly won't like 6 home game schedules. Easier to live without when you never had it. Not quite the same as giving up 7-8 million when its there for the taking. "If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have fairly good players, which I think we do, then I think there are some systemic issues." - Tom Osborne
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Posted: 2/13/2013 7:34 AM
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HuskerSambo wrote:
buckeye4573 wrote: I hear ya, but they had to live off 6 home games until the went to 12 games...they can do it....I really hate it that the "need" so many home games....rubbish...run your department efficiently....
HuskerSambo wrote:
WhatheBuck wrote: Coaches are against the 9 game conference season because you have 4 home games and 5 away every other year.
In 2016 I can see Ohio State playing Tulsa at home then heading out to Norman, Ok. The next year is open the first week the OU at home. Then 10 B1G games.Personally I like this.
If it goes to 10 games, I can see those OU types of non con games being few and far between.
Coaches may not like 4 & 5 road/home splits, but AD's certainly won't like 6 home game schedules.
Easier to live without when you never had it. Not quite the same as giving up 7-8 million when its there for the taking. Agreed. If it happens, you'll see schools cut non revenue sports. With the current arms race in football, the need for a 7th home game is so much more important. |
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