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Build-O-Team 2014, First Take
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Posted: 2/7/2013 9:39 AM
Build-O-Team 2014, First Take
For those of you unfamiliar with the Build-O-Team, it is an exercise where someone tries to build a two-deep depth chart from last year's recruiting class and the upcoming recruiting class. While a full team may not be constructed from one class, it has been argued that a coach should be able to build a team from two consecutive classes.
The exercise is intended to show what areas are doing well recruiting-wise and what areas could use a little more attention. It is not a depth chart for next year. It is only an exercise to show what recruiting needs may yet exist. No value judgments are made to determine where athletes fit on the depth chart, instead listing them only by incoming class. If an athlete is listed at multiple positions I will move them to the position of most need. That is not an indication of where the coaches intend for them to play. (See Edit note at bottom ) QUARTERBACK (NEED: 2, HAVE: 1, NET: -1) Johnny Stanton, 6’2”, 220
RUNNING BACK ((NEED: 2, HAVE: 2, NET: 0) Terrell Newby, 5’10”, 180 Adam Taylor, 6’2”, 200 WIDE RECEIVER (NEED: 4, HAVE: 2, NET: -2) Kevin Gladney, 6’2”, 175 Tre’vell Dixon, 6’1”, 195
TIGHT END (NEED: 2, HAVE:2, NET: 0) Cethan Carter, 6’4”, 230 Greg Hart, 6’5”, 225
OFFENSIVE LINE (NEED: 10, HAVE:5, NET: -5) Dwayne Johnson, 6’6”, 275 Chongo Kondolo, 6’4”, 290 Matt Finnin, 6’8”, 330 David Knevel, 6’8”, 290 Zach Hannon, 6’5”, 295
DEFENSIVE TACKLE (NEED: 4, HAVE: 2, NET: -2) Maliek Collins, 6’2”, 285 Kevin Maurice, 6’3”, 270
DEFENSIVE END (NEED: 4, HAVE: 4 NET: 0) Ernest Suttles, 6’5”, 240 Randy Gregory, 6’6”, 230 Dimarya Mixon, 6’3”, 265 A.J. Natter, 6’5”, 240 LINEBACKER (NEED: 6, HAVE:3, NET: -3) Marcus Newby, 6’1”, 207 Courtney Love, 6’1”, 225 Josh Banderas, 6’2”, 220
DEFENSIVE BACK (NEED: 8, HAVE: 4 NET:-4) Drake Martinez, 6’2”, 200 Boaz Joseph, 6’1”, 190 DJ Singleton, 6’1”, 195 Nathan Gerry, 6’2”, 206 SPECIAL TEAMS (NEED: 1, HAVE:1 NET: 0) Gabriel Miller, 6’0”, 235
Notes: - Not sure how many scholarships they will offer in 2014 but to fill the gaps they need at least 17.
- Biggest needs appear to be OL, DB and LB. The DB need appears to be more CB than Safety. LB may be overstated because of the large class in 2012
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Posted: 2/7/2013 10:37 AM
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to me... OL, DT, and CB are where we need to be. yeah i'd love another qb but we're pretty well off with armstrong and stanton. we need OL depth especially with all the jucos we're taking this year. grab 2 stud DT's, 4-6 linemen, 3-4 cbs (who can also possibly play safety ala charles jackson) and 6-8 other players that NEED to be high quality if you take them. 2 wr's are probably necessary as well.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:05 AM
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brianpnoonan wrote: to me... OL, DT, and CB are where we need to be. yeah i'd love another qb but we're pretty well off with armstrong and stanton. we need OL depth especially with all the jucos we're taking this year. grab 2 stud DT's, 4-6 linemen, 3-4 cbs (who can also possibly play safety ala charles jackson) and 6-8 other players that NEED to be high quality if you take them. 2 wr's are probably necessary as well. I would say OL and CB are the two biggest needs next year We could get one or two LB with the youth we have and be ok. A couple more DT would be nice.
Let's take those N's and put them right underneath their chins!
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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:38 PM
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brianpnoonan wrote: to me... OL, DT, and CB are where we need to be. yeah i'd love another qb but we're pretty well off with armstrong and stanton. we need OL depth especially with all the jucos we're taking this year. grab 2 stud DT's, 4-6 linemen, 3-4 cbs (who can also possibly play safety ala charles jackson) and 6-8 other players that NEED to be high quality if you take them. 2 wr's are probably necessary as well. Agreed. Gotta work in the trenches. However you have to take a QB every single season. The Starling/Turner fiasco plus the class before had left NU with no depth. A single transfer and you are riding one guy praying he doesn't get hurt. NU is in great shape with the two we have over the past two classes so it is a start. We do need a guy each year with the talent levels of a Armstrong and/or Stanton.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 8:22 PM
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How do we factor JUCO's on the Build-O-Team?
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Posted: 2/7/2013 8:30 PM
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According to Damon Bennington, Nebraska is going back to the Peso...DB and fleet LB's along with stud DT's a must...
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Posted: 2/7/2013 10:30 PM
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huskerhillbilly wrote: How do we factor JUCO's on the Build-O-Team? That is the weakness of the Build-O-Team. If you want to factor in 2 year JUCOs then you need the list to be either 3 or 4 years. But if you do that it starts to look very complicated. I am sure the coaches look at it that way, but for us novices on a website, the two year look is clean, simple, and easy to understand. If you want to build a four year version, please be my guest. I will even send you the word document I keep as a starting point.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 10:32 PM
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Herg312 wrote: According to Damon Bennington, Nebraska is going back to the Peso...DB and fleet LB's along with stud DT's a must... I had not heard that. If so, then why are the coaches stockpiling so many linebackers. A Peso defense requires more DBs. Unless they intend to use some of these new LBs to fill that hybrid role.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 10:51 PM
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Herg312 wrote: According to Damon Bennington, Nebraska is going back to the Peso...DB and fleet LB's along with stud DT's a must... i think with the addition of players like suttles and gregory that we're likely to see some 3-4 looks long-term as well -- especially if big V is as good as they are saying. finding 3-4 DE's on this team is a lot easier than finding depth at DT. Then again, i've thought that for a couple years now. bo's stubborn. but he also started using eric martin that way toward the end of last year and had some success so... i think it's fairly likely that you'll see more going forward if he's got the personnel (and gregory fits that bill to a T in my opinion). LB to me has a TON more depth than DL... and you want the best players on the field. If our DL can hold the point of attack then you can attack with the LB's... catch is, they couldn't hold the point of attack last year with 4 guys.... meh, hope springs eternal i suppose. point being : speed, speed, speed. that's how you fix our defense and i think pretty much everyone knows it. I just hope bo knows it too.
Last edited 2/7/2013 10:56 PM by brianpnoonan
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:11 PM
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Every year there has been talk of the 3-4, even when Coz was here. I still have yet to see it. Also this helps bring light to why we signed 3 players that I see playing Safety. brianpnoonan wrote:
Herg312 wrote: According to Damon Bennington, Nebraska is going back to the Peso...DB and fleet LB's along with stud DT's a must... i think with the addition of players like suttles and gregory that we're likely to see some 3-4 looks long-term as well -- especially if big V is as good as they are saying. finding 3-4 DE's on this team is a lot easier than finding depth at DT.
Then again, i've thought that for a couple years now. bo's stubborn. but he also started using eric martin that way toward the end of last year and had some success so... i think it's fairly likely that you'll see more going forward if he's got the personnel (and gregory fits that bill to a T in my opinion). LB to me has a TON more depth than DL... and you want the best players on the field. If our DL can hold the point of attack then you can attack with the LB's...
catch is, they couldn't hold the point of attack last year with 4 guys.... meh, hope springs eternal i suppose.
point being : speed, speed, speed. that's how you fix our defense and i think pretty much everyone knows it. I just hope bo knows it too.
Last edited 2/7/2013 11:12 PM by WalterPayton34
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Posted: 2/8/2013 8:12 AM
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Herg312 wrote: According to Damon Bennington, Nebraska is going back to the Peso...DB and fleet LB's along with stud DT's a must... For spread teams that is fine (and everyone we face will play some spread). The fact is B1G plays more power football than "average" in college football. Michigan is going to a pro style attack, Wisky is run first....we have to be able to handle the power sets which to me implies being able to put 3 LBs on the field that can produce. tOSU is the only team that will emulate what NU runs on offense (spread option) with elite athletes. Peso is better suited to stop that. I like Pelini's chances to figure out teams that don't have mobile QBs if we can improve our front 7.
"That what make you, can also break you." Mr Rhythm (D.C. Cab)
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Posted: 2/8/2013 9:12 AM
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Jimbosc wrote: Herg312 wrote: According to Damon Bennington, Nebraska is going back to the Peso...DB and fleet LB's along with stud DT's a must... For spread teams that is fine (and everyone we face will play some spread).
The fact is B1G plays more power football than "average" in college football. Michigan is going to a pro style attack, Wisky is run first....we have to be able to handle the power sets which to me implies being able to put 3 LBs on the field that can produce.
tOSU is the only team that will emulate what NU runs on offense (spread option) with elite athletes. Peso is better suited to stop that.
I like Pelini's chances to figure out teams that don't have mobile QBs if we can improve our front 7. Nailed it. Our small fast D (peso) that we came into the conference with was battered by the end of the first year. It's one of the reasons I am so intrigued with the future of the BIG. Most conferences have stereotypical offenses. Power in the BIG and SEC. Airball in the Texas conference, spread in the PAC. But the BIG has started to drift more into the spread and for DC's it's making life tough. You only have so many players and it's hard to bring in specialists for each type of offense with the limits. You can't have one D for spread and one D for power. If we go Peso again, we are giving up size and that means starters that are bumped and bruised by the end of the year. That means we need quality depth and experience in our backups. Historically, Bo and his staff have struggled in getting the backups ready and getting them on the field for meaningful snaps. Maybe that is what he was alluding to in his presser when he talked about getting more guys on the field earlier.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 11:32 PM
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NUinNC wrote:
huskerhillbilly wrote: How do we factor JUCO's on the Build-O-Team? That is the weakness of the Build-O-Team.
If you want to factor in 2 year JUCOs then you need the list to be either 3 or 4 years. But if you do that it starts to look very complicated. I am sure the coaches look at it that way, but for us novices on a website, the two year look is clean, simple, and easy to understand.
If you want to build a four year version, please be my guest. I will even send you the word document I keep as a starting point. I think that the Build-O-Team is fine the way it is. I guess I should ask the question about the JUCO's recruited. I don't know how many years each of these guys have of eligibility. If they will be eligible for just two years on the field, then do they count on the Build-O-Team? I agree, though. The two year view is a good snapshot. Thanks.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:00 AM
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huskerhillbilly wrote:
NUinNC wrote:
huskerhillbilly wrote: How do we factor JUCO's on the Build-O-Team? That is the weakness of the Build-O-Team.
If you want to factor in 2 year JUCOs then you need the list to be either 3 or 4 years. But if you do that it starts to look very complicated. I am sure the coaches look at it that way, but for us novices on a website, the two year look is clean, simple, and easy to understand.
If you want to build a four year version, please be my guest. I will even send you the word document I keep as a starting point. I think that the Build-O-Team is fine the way it is. I guess I should ask the question about the JUCO's recruited. I don't know how many years each of these guys have of eligibility. If they will be eligible for just two years on the field, then do they count on the Build-O-Team? I agree, though. The two year view is a good snapshot. Thanks. It was originally created by a long time legendary poster on this board. But " He who must not be named" is busy with way more important matters and can not be bothered with trivial things such as this.
Last edited 2/9/2013 6:18 AM by NUinNC
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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:03 PM
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NUinNC wrote: It was originally created by a long time legendary poster on this board. But "He who must not be named" is busy with way more important matters and can not be bothered with trivial things such as this. It's called -- slacking off. No excuses.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 4:25 AM
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huskerhillbilly wrote:
NUinNC wrote: It was originally created by a long time legendary poster on this board. But "He who must not be named" is busy with way more important matters and can not be bothered with trivial things such as this. It's called -- slacking off. No excuses. Be careful what you say. " He Who Must Not Be Named" still has powerful friend on this board. He has a razor shart set of fingers and can slice you to pieces in the blink of an eye.
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