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Posted: 1/25/2012 8:04 AM

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Okay, maybe this isn't cool... But I would suggest in the next 2 years we see all these teams on the non-conference schedule... If we could get 2 maybe 3 every year that is a decent non-conference schedule. Of course UTEP might be a conference mate.

BYU
SDSU
UTEP
Utah
TCU

Proverbs 18:24
A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.

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Posted: 1/25/2012 8:10 AM

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I agree.   One game or perhaps a home and home with teams like BYU will help our RPI and, to boot, will draw well at both venues.

Coach has mentioned that he gets along with the BYU staff well so i would't be surprised to see BYU on our schedule soon.

I'm not sure about Utah and UTEP won't happen because of Alford's beef with Greg Foster.

I also wonder if Oklahoma is a possibility now that Lon Kruger is there.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 8:53 AM

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Bandit0 wrote: Okay, maybe this isn't cool... But I would suggest in the next 2 years we see all these teams on the non-conference schedule... If we could get 2 maybe 3 every year that is a decent non-conference schedule. Of course UTEP might be a conference mate.

BYU
SDSU
UTEP
Utah
TCU
Not a bad list but only two schools will be BCS in basketball (Utah and TCU). I really do not want to play Big West and West Coast Conference  teams unless they come to the Pit. Still, I have no problem with your idea.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 9:00 AM

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Utah and TCU yes. 

Utah is going to get very good on the next few years once the Boylen misfits are gone.

The others...Floyd is a cheater who should not even be coaching
.......................BYU and SDSU abandoned the conference, and SDSU's defection helped keep the Big East alive...I would not be surprised to see both programs start to slip as recruiting gets more difficult. BYU's recruiting class for next year is already subpar
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Posted: 1/25/2012 10:44 AM

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if you had said , in the recent past

VILLANOVA
OKLAHOMA
OKLAHOMA STATE
BOSTON COLLEGE
USC
ARIZONA ST
WASHINGTON ST
ST LOUIS

i think most people would have gone with that roster rather than whats below. just watch, theres never a guarantee those guys below will lay a turd. he its happened to us and about everyone else except for maybe 5 programs among the countries' 300+ D1 schools....


but along your line of thinking i think houston would be good. also Id like a big texas school like a&m, texas, baylor...




Bandit0 wrote: Okay, maybe this isn't cool... But I would suggest in the next 2 years we see all these teams on the non-conference schedule... If we could get 2 maybe 3 every year that is a decent non-conference schedule. Of course UTEP might be a conference mate.

BYU
SDSU
UTEP
Utah
TCU
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Posted: 1/25/2012 11:02 AM

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NMFANINOKC wrote: Crap, here we go again.. UGH

 yuP!  HAHA.....    i agree with loboj,  I would sched the BIG TEX 3.. TEXAS has a young team and they will be a power, aTm will rise up,  And Baylor will be smokin for the next few years and beyond..  thats the way to go...

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Posted: 1/25/2012 11:03 AM

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Posted: 1/25/2012 11:29 AM

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What is UTEP's and Utah's RPI. Hey that is the ticket. More crappy schools to play.eek1

 Although I admit UTEP/Utah might be better than Houston Baptist and UMKC could be a debatable topic.....there is alot of bad beef and until Floyd issues an apology....I got Alford's back.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 11:42 AM

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Bandit0 wrote: Okay, maybe this isn't cool... But I would suggest in the next 2 years we see all these teams on the non-conference schedule... If we could get 2 maybe 3 every year that is a decent non-conference schedule. Of course UTEP might be a conference mate.

BYU
SDSU
UTEP
Utah
TCU
This is ain't a bad idea in terms of regional rivalries and even in terms of RPI -- assuming all these teams maintain their current levels of success or improve them.

SDSU 29
BYU 56
TCU 117
UTEP 143
Utah 253

But if the teams get worse not better then this the improvement this brings to the schedule is an illusion.
Just like playing all those BCS teams on this year's schedule was an illusion.

But they could still bring value in playing in hostile road environments -- SDSU,BYU and UTEP especially. Or recruiting (TCU). Utah is a doldrums. Until they improve, scheduling the Utes is an improvement in appearance only. Tho I'm sure old time Lobo fans wouldn't mind kicking them when they're down.

Y'all may not like it but scheduling schools like Utah St. (157) and Weber St. (79) would be good in terms of competition as well as hostile road crowds. That Oral Roberts (44) trip a few years back was a wake up call and they're consistently good too. If we can't get elites into The Pit then getting great mid-majors is the next best thing.

Seems to me scheduling has to fulfill one of three requirements -- competition, recruiting and preparation. If you can fulfill two of these with a single game, all the better.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 12:02 PM

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Personally, I'm not in favor of scheduling the BYU, UTAH or SDSU in the near future. Why help out their RPI by scheduling them?

BTW, I had a recent conversation with  a  BYU fan and the arrogance was amazing.  He claimed the MWC leaders (not fans) treated them unfairly and that they deserved to be able to have their own media deal separate from the rest of the conference!  I say good riddance.

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Posted: 1/25/2012 12:32 PM

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NMFANINOKC wrote: Crap, here we go again.. UGH
Shocking! A Lobo sports board actually talking Lobo Sports! Would you rather us sit around masturbate each others egos about how great we all are rolleyes

Honestly... If you would have told me last year I would miss the games vs. Utah, UTEP, and BYU I would think you were on dope. Seriously, these are teams I could care less about their RPI or SOS... They are excellent Western rivals that we should work on keeping regardless of conference...

Who doesn't miss sticking it to a

Danny Ainge
Reid Brothers
Lil Jimmer

Keith Van Horn
Michael Doleac
Andre Miller

Tim Hardaway
Greg Foster the player and now the coach!

Those were dream match ups and dream games... And the entire state would be electric if any of those 3 teams were coming to town! It was electric!

Now your saying SDSU is leaving as well... Recently that game has become HUGE! They are more than likely a Top 5 seed this year, with a shot to go to back to back Sweet 16's plus, and I see no reason why they slow down next year!

Utah while not so hot right now is fine... They will get back up to where they need to be and they are a PAC XII school...

Point is we have LONG TERM history with all these schools and program! They know The Pit we know their arenas, they know and have known our players and coaches and we know theirs!

I would take a schedule with any of this combination
BYU
Utah
SDSU
UTEP

over most so called BCS power conference schools... Just because it is FUN!

Proverbs 18:24
A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.

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Posted: 1/25/2012 1:16 PM

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rrlobo wrote: Personally, I'm not in favor of scheduling the BYU, UTAH or SDSU in the near future. Why help out their RPI by scheduling them?
Because their RPI (SDSU and BYU anyway) could help us as could playing in hostile environment (Utah, if they ever improve -- plus UNM fans would love to see the home team kick them in the teeth.

Playing in Cali could also help with recruiting. Playing in the state of Utah could help UNM get on ESPN. Lots of positives.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 1:27 PM

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Of course who we ask to dance will still have to say yes. That point people seem to forget about. Its a two way street, both sides have to want to make it happen.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 4:04 PM

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I truly believe UNM will ALWAYS HAVE SCHEDULING PROBLEMS.

As stated earlier in this topic, many of the opponents the Lobos scheduled this year have in years past been very good teams.

With college players having the opportunity to leave school after just one season many programs who are not Kansas or Ohio State or Syracuse are going to have a difficult time recruiting quality players year in and year out.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 6:07 PM

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NMFANINOKC wrote: Crap, here we go again.. UGH

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Posted: 1/26/2012 6:48 PM

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Why tcu? Rather have cu or Texas tech
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Posted: 1/26/2012 7:39 PM

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TCU is going nowhere fast. So I wouldn't worry about playing the Horny Toads.
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Posted: 1/27/2012 5:24 PM

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hunterig wrote:
Floyd is a cheater who should not even be coaching

Based on what, exactly?  The NCAA investigated an allegation made against him while at USC.  At the conclusion, the NCAA specifically wrote him a letter indicating that they found no wrongdoing on his part or on the part of his staff.  The other criticism is that he hires assistants as package deals.  Does Chris Walker ring a bell?  Please, elaborate on what exactly makes him a cheater and why he shouldn't be coaching.

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Posted: 1/27/2012 6:11 PM

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MondoMiner wrote:
hunterig wrote:
Floyd is a cheater who should not even be coaching

Based on what, exactly?  The NCAA investigated an allegation made against him while at USC.  At the conclusion, the NCAA specifically wrote him a letter indicating that they found no wrongdoing on his part or on the part of his staff.  The other criticism is that he hires assistants as package deals.  Does Chris Walker ring a bell?  Please, elaborate on what exactly makes him a cheater and why he shouldn't be coaching.
Are you kidding?  Floyd and I were in a airport once and he said, "Look over there!  What's that?"  And when I turned, I swear he stole some of my french fries. .  .Cheater.
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Posted: 1/27/2012 7:24 PM

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There's no benefit in playing Utah or TCU. I mean, I know they were conference rivals but, these teams are not very good right now. TCU has improved some, but we need to concentrate on playing in these pre-season tournaments, and getting some talented bcs schools on our out of conference schedule...Or some powerful non-bcs schools like Gonzaga or Memphis.The high level of competition can only help our program. I am ok however, with having BYU, SDSU, and/or UTEP on the docket. These teams have had some success or have potential to be good year in and year out. Byu has been a tremendous rival over the last few years.    

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Posted: 1/27/2012 9:21 PM

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IllinoisLobo wrote:
MondoMiner wrote:
hunterig wrote:
Floyd is a cheater who should not even be coaching

Based on what, exactly?  The NCAA investigated an allegation made against him while at USC.  At the conclusion, the NCAA specifically wrote him a letter indicating that they found no wrongdoing on his part or on the part of his staff.  The other criticism is that he hires assistants as package deals.  Does Chris Walker ring a bell?  Please, elaborate on what exactly makes him a cheater and why he shouldn't be coaching.
Are you kidding?  Floyd and I were in a airport once and he said, "Look over there!  What's that?"  And when I turned, I swear he stole some of my french fries. .  .Cheater.

That would make him a thief, not a cheater.  Besides, I'm failing to see how stealing french fries should preclude anyone from coaching.  Any other examples of how Floyd cheats?

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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:15 AM

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He collects $200 without passing go?  It was a joke. . . .
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:30 AM

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Oh, I get it. Tim got fired at USC because they simply did not appreciate the intergrity that he always used during the recruiting process. Poor Tim he  is so misunderstood!!!!!eek1
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:37 AM

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gr8thypelobo wrote:

There's no benefit in playing Utah or TCU. I mean, I know they were conference rivals but, these teams are not very good right now. TCU has improved some, but we need to concentrate on playing in these pre-season tournaments, and getting some talented bcs schools on our out of conference schedule...Or some powerful non-bcs schools like Gonzaga or Memphis.The high level of competition can only help our program. I am ok however, with having BYU, SDSU, and/or UTEP on the docket. These teams have had some success or have potential to be good year in and year out. Byu has been a tremendous rival over the last few years.

The thing about TCU and/or Utah is they play in good conferences and will be getting better very quickly!  Both have had success in the past and will have it again...

Not only that Gonzaga and Memphis might be hard to get to schedule... Isn't that what we here these big name teams don't want to play us? Well is TCU and Utah big name right now? Why not scoop them up now?

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Posted: 1/28/2012 11:49 AM

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I'll have to admit, I like the idea Bandito. And your scenario could very well pan out. I realize the BCS money will help Utah and TCU but, i think these teams will be viewed as 2nd tier for awhile. Especially by recruits. Utah is now competing with conference rivals USC, UCLA, Arizona, & Washington for recruits. Not an easy task even though the PAC has been weak as of late. Money helps yes...but the prestige and reputation of the school are factors also. So it'll be interesting to see how quickly the two programs progress. I just think we need good teams on the docket now, not later. Scheduling has been an issue Alford has mentioned many times and hopefully that wont be a factor as our program gets better (wishful thinking!). It's especially hard to get good teams to come into the pit. It is looking like the MWC/CUSA merger might be a very realistic possibility however, and gaining Memphis & UTEP in conference would definitely make up for losing SDSU & TCU.

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Posted: 1/28/2012 11:00 PM

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dutchlobo wrote: Oh, I get it. Tim got fired at USC because they simply did not appreciate the intergrity that he always used during the recruiting process. Poor Tim he  is so misunderstood!!!!!eek1

Tim Floyd RESIGNED because he was thrown under the bus by his AD who was trying to save his cash cow football program.  There were numerous violation allegations against the USC football program and one against the basketball team.  In a feeble attempt to preserve his money-maker, he self-imposed sanctions on the basketball team, none on the football team.  When Floyd tried to talk to him about it, the guy wouldn't talk to him, wouldn't see him.  Floyd resigned because of the utter lack of support and scapegoating by his supervisor.

The NCAA investigated ALL the allegations.  They found lack of institutional control.  They also took the unprecedented step of sending a personal letter to Floyd indicating that they found no wrong-doing on his part or on the part of his staff.  That's why UTEP was able to hire him with no show-cause penalty.

So I ask again, what exactly makes him a "cheater who should not even be coaching"?

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Posted: 1/28/2012 11:43 PM

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MondoMiner wrote:
IllinoisLobo wrote:
MondoMiner wrote:
hunterig wrote:
Floyd is a cheater who should not even be coaching

Based on what, exactly?  The NCAA investigated an allegation made against him while at USC.  At the conclusion, the NCAA specifically wrote him a letter indicating that they found no wrongdoing on his part or on the part of his staff.  The other criticism is that he hires assistants as package deals.  Does Chris Walker ring a bell?  Please, elaborate on what exactly makes him a cheater and why he shouldn't be coaching.
Are you kidding?  Floyd and I were in a airport once and he said, "Look over there!  What's that?"  And when I turned, I swear he stole some of my french fries. .  .Cheater.

That would make him a thief, not a cheater.  Besides, I'm failing to see how stealing french fries should preclude anyone from coaching.  Any other examples of how Floyd cheats?
ahhh who cares bout him!!!  he is a punk and Alford punked him and the Lobos punked the miners!!!!!!   thats what happens to thiefs n cheaters!!!!!!!   they get punked!
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Posted: 1/29/2012 12:32 AM

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72lonewolf wrote:
MondoMiner wrote:
IllinoisLobo wrote:
MondoMiner wrote:
hunterig wrote:
Floyd is a cheater who should not even be coaching

Based on what, exactly?  The NCAA investigated an allegation made against him while at USC.  At the conclusion, the NCAA specifically wrote him a letter indicating that they found no wrongdoing on his part or on the part of his staff.  The other criticism is that he hires assistants as package deals.  Does Chris Walker ring a bell?  Please, elaborate on what exactly makes him a cheater and why he shouldn't be coaching.
Are you kidding?  Floyd and I were in a airport once and he said, "Look over there!  What's that?"  And when I turned, I swear he stole some of my french fries. .  .Cheater.

That would make him a thief, not a cheater.  Besides, I'm failing to see how stealing french fries should preclude anyone from coaching.  Any other examples of how Floyd cheats?
ahhh who cares bout him!!!  he is a punk and Alford punked him and the Lobos punked the miners!!!!!!   thats what happens to thiefs n cheaters!!!!!!!   they get punked!

Yup.  Sure did.  Thanks for proving my point.  (BTW, I think you mean "thieves", don't think "thiefs" is a word.)

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Posted: 1/29/2012 8:00 AM

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Should this thread be headed to the TRASH TALK Forum???

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