Sandbilly wrote: You are a guy calling the kettle black. I left this site over your your one sided moderation and your deceptive use of "facts" that were in fact untruths. I am more than happy to debate anyone on facts but not BS, aka untruths. I have no respect for people playing the game that way. you are too intelligent to not know some of the stuff put up was outright falsehoods.You feel it is fine for you to make derogatory commentary about anyone you feel like here

After I left you took the opportunity , on more than one occasion to slam me which I did not respond to. You a moderator.Well done big man .Your actions are bigger than your words. You want to weasel back on fine but I have no use in supporting your manipulation here. Keep up the propaganda machine but in the end the truth usually wins out.

Have at it pal. Are you going to post today a survey on how people dont want tax increases and pass it off as the truth?

Sandbilly - here is the thing.  You do not get to decide what is truths v. untruths.  Neither do I.  You issue your points of view, I mine.  You reference your polls and sources - I mine.  Many agree with you - many agree with me.

However, because I challenged your opinions and references - you accused me of deleting or editing your posts, knocked my integrity.  And, when I responded in-kind, you chose to look at it as derogatory commentary. You then chose the ignore button over debate.  And, like today - decided to leave the site, stating one sided moderation, rather than accept the challenge - so, in your own words, "weaseled out".  So, on that - we agree.  I too have no respect for people playing the game that way.  Another challenge to you Sandbilly.

Again, for your benefit I will attempt to restate.  I do not edit, delete, or moderate based on ideology.  I never have and you stating so - does not make it a truth.  I do not agree with certain statements and the manner stated - however, I have always liked and welcomed a challenge.  And, unlike you - am willing to accept an opposing position.  Most others on this site also enjoy a challenge over garbage talk.

The only manipulation going on here is the "fact" that you wish to throw around such words rather than accept another "fact" - half of this country does not agree with your politics.  And, many more do not enjoy the manner in which you wish to push your agenda.

Like Obama - you are a smart man.  It does not mean I agree with either of your many positions.  However, I cherish the fact in America we can freely state our positions.  We can debate them and people like LeeRoy can establish some rules on his site for doing so.  We can also choose an "ignore" button and bail anytime we wish.

If you are again choosing to do so - then, that is your prerogative.  However, as a moderator on this site - I have been totally fair while trying to make the site one in which people can have their say without being personally attacked.  Most feel I have done a decent job - sorry, you do not.