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If Davies loses Cass then he is a real loser....
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:10 AM
If Davies loses Cass then he is a real loser....
If he lands him, then he is the REAL DEAL! Best player in New Mexico....PERIOD. I am sick of seeing the best players in New Mexico go elsewhere. This time, we could keep one at home. This kid is phenomenal. See any ink on him in the ABQ Journal or anywhere else?
Last edited 11/19/2012 11:08 AM by BBWolf
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:18 AM
Re: If Davies loses Kass then he is a real loser....
Do you mean Kamal Cass, with a C, from Clovis?
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:43 AM
Re: If Davies loses Kass then he is a real loser....
Here is the thing... Cass is is going to get some offers from all around the country and depending if he is one of those guys that chooses to stay in New Mexico excellent! Or he could be one of those dudes that has to go somewhere else...
Some guys are like that... I know that once the season is over we will try to do something with him on the website and TV show...
But for UNM it is a Catch-22, the more exposure he gets nationally the harder it is to beat away out of state offers from BCS schools... Really tough for UNM to compete with BCS schools, unless the guy wants to stay home...
Not sure this is indictment on Coach Davie as to what is all of New Mexico... And BBW you more than anyone should know the tentacles of Texas Tech reaching into the Clovis area...
1Peter 3:9
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Posted: 11/19/2012 1:51 AM
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"If Davies loses Kass then he is a real loser.... "
That is one of the worst thread titles I've read on this board.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 4:31 AM
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Wow that post makes me want to run out and sign him today... Not. He is good but I don't think all is lost if we don"t sign him. We already got Rommel Jordan but if we have to deal with your obnoxious posts for 4-5 years, I would hope they don't sign Cass.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 5:14 AM
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Can't believe the title and thinking here as to why this reflects on Davie! The kid or any other kid can choose to got wherever he likes and a lot of that depends upon his BCS offers. Davie is already committed to going after the best in the state but he can't force their signature to the LOI! Just a horrible post.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 7:27 AM
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jozer wrote: Can't believe the title and thinking here as to why this reflects on Davie! The kid or any other kid can choose to got wherever he likes and a lot of that depends upon his BCS offers. Davie is already committed to going after the best in the state but he can't force their signature to the LOI! Just a horrible post. Yea, I think we should lose BBWolf.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 8:35 AM
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Who is this Davies guy I keep hearing about?
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Posted: 11/19/2012 8:47 AM
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Luckily Cass is putting up numbers that are impossible to ignore, I'm sure Davie is aware of him. It definitely seems that he would be a great fit for this offense.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:24 AM
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I am sure that past coaches have lost the best player in the state - even the former UNM coach now at SDSU and that did not make them losers, or maybe it did in some eyes. You can't force a kid to sign no matter how badly you want them.
What a dumb thread.
We Are New Mexico!
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:28 AM
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jozer wrote: Can't believe the title and thinking here as to why this reflects on Davie! The kid or any other kid can choose to got wherever he likes and a lot of that depends upon his BCS offers. Davie is already committed to going after the best in the state but he can't force their signature to the LOI! Just a horrible post. Agreed. No coach in the history of college football has managed to sign every in-state recruit he went after. Point in case: Just look at all the top prospects Rocky lost despite HEAVILY recruiting in-state and having a good record. To hinge Davie's reputation on a single recruit, let alone the first real top in-state prospect he has a shot at, is a joke. Now if Davie decides NOT TO RECRUIT him or NOT TO OFFER him...that would reflect negatively on him. The same would be true if for some reason Cass would wind up at NMSU or with UTEP. But otherwise?  If Cass gets offers from top notch BCS programs (not far fetched given his numbers) then it will inevitable be extremely hard for UNM to sign him no matter how good a recruiter our coach is.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:43 AM
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Hey, the 1-10 CU Buffalos didnt recruit Colin Klein from Longmont Colorado. He turned out pretty good didnt he? It happens. Schools miss, kids miss. Unless he plays D-Line or D-Back he would be a lower priority if I was the coach.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 9:47 AM
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I agree....it was a dumb topic and title to post. Got a little too excited (angry) I guess when I learned that we were not recruiting him as hard as I thought. This comes from a family member of the QB on the team who said that he is being pursued by NMSU and Texas Tech much more than New Mexico. I will try and speak directly to Cass if I can, because I find this hard to believe.  My apologies....
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:03 AM
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Okay... listen to what Coach Davie has said recently about recruiting...
I'm paraphrasing:
We are in a situation where when we start recruiting a guy a BCS school will come in and pluck him from right underneath us... And if we put tons of cash and time into a guy that we may not be able to sign, we will miss someone that we could have signed.
Not only that isn't Cass a Junior? Right now the Lobos are filling out the upcoming class... A lot can happen in 2 years.
1Peter 3:9
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:08 AM
Re: If Davies loses Kass then he is a real loser....
This is one point where I disagree with coach Davie. Now if he had said that we have so many holes right now we cannot focus solely on one player. That I could understand.
However to not put all realistically possible ressources on the top in-state player just because you risk losing him to a bigger school is IMO not a good strategy. Now if Cass told him that he has already been contacted by powerhouses and doesn't give UNM much of a chance...that I could understand. But otherwise I see no reason why UNM should not go hard after that guy. And in terms of money....come on....we are not talking about a kid from the East Coast, Cass is an in-state player from Clovis which is about 200 miles away.
As for him being only a HS junior...Bandito, you have been in the game long enough to know that recruiting top talent doesn't start when the kid is a senior. You have to start EARLY if you want to have any chance of getting the kid.
Last edited 11/19/2012 10:09 AM by Hador
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:22 AM
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Here is the problem and it has nothing to do with whoever the coach is it has to do with the damn fans. And you can bioth about that statement all you want but it is the truth. Or as Colonel Nathan R. Jessep would say, "You can't handle the truth!" These guys see the pathetic crowd, and I am not talking about the folks that showed up they were GREAT, for the Lobo seniors last game and so why would they want to come play for the Lobos. Maybe that is why the ones that come here from out of state leave. And then we crap on them some more for leaving.
Frankly I could care less where he gets the players as long as they want to come here. The last 2 guys that everyone wanted to come here either went off to Texas Tech and got kicked off the team or went to nmmi and then came here to only get suspended.
"The Anonymous One"
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Posted: 11/19/2012 10:57 AM
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If Cass wants to go elsewhere Davie cannot be blamed for that, but he should do absolutely everything in his power to try to land this kid. That's all that those of us that have seen the kid play are asking - do everything in your power to bring the kid to UNM. If he chooses to go out of state or gets snatched up by a BCS program there's no shame as long as we did our best to get him.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 11:25 AM
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Agree with you 100% Lobovike. Sometimes no matter what a coach does the young man is going to choose to go somewhere else due to many reasons. Alan Branch has family in Michigan, Landry Jones has family in Oklahoma and he always wanted to go there. I think the bigger problem is the mistakes coaches make by not offering local talent like RL with the great Chris Williams.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 12:02 PM
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 I am sure that Coach Davie is recruiting Cass and all other New Mexico D-1 talent. So some guy told some guy that some guy doesn't think UNM is recruiting him as hard as nmsu and tt? I find that laughable.
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Posted: 11/19/2012 4:42 PM
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I think UNM has great interest in Cass but as many of you have said, if you talk to the kid and he "big times" you then I agree you should move on and wish the kid well. I am not saying that is what is going on here but I can tell you that happens. I know for sure, I have seen him play in person, Cass is a player! Not sure he is better then the Thompson (sp) kid from Clovis a few years ago that went to OU or Dontrell Moore from Roswell who went to UNM but he is good. Remember he is a Junior and not sure what his grades look like (not saying he has bad grades at all I don't know) but if he isn't doing great in the classroom he is going to go to a JUCO and then UNM will try to get him back. My point by posting this is there are so many variables that none of us know or should know, so saying this is a make or break recruit for Coach Davie is wrong and I might offer this if you present this to Coach Davie as a threat or somehow make him feel like he better rectruit this kid is not a wise move if you want the kid to go to UNM, Coach Davie is not the kind of guy who responds well to being backed into the corner! Just and FYI...  BBWolf, I want to acknowledge the fact you said the title was a bad choice, kudos to you for saying that so many folks ignore it when they make a mistake or dig their heels in and defend a bad decision so kudos to you for stepping up and addressing it, good job!
Last edited 11/19/2012 4:44 PM by LoboRam
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