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"Bo Ryan Replacements" Article on SI (7/15)

Posted: 7/16/2014 10:29 AM

"Bo Ryan Replacements" Article on SI (7/15) 


Not sure if anyone saw this, but here is the link:

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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:49 AM

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FIFY: http://www.si.com/college-bask...-ryan-wisconsin

Kowalczyk, Wardle, Miller? Yeah, no.
 
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Posted: 7/16/2014 10:56 AM

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Wardle makes me bristle the most. Yuck.

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FIFY: www.si.com/college-bask...-ryan-wisconsin

Kowalczyk, Wardle, Miller? Yeah, no.

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Posted: 7/16/2014 11:11 AM

"Bo Ryan Replacements" Article on SI (7/15) 


1. TB;
1. a. TB;
2. Saul
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Posted: 7/16/2014 11:34 AM

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TexasBadger wrote: 1. TB;
1. a. TB;
2. Saul
1. TB; (Unlikely)
1. a. TB; (Unlikely)
2. Saul (Why Saul over Gard?)
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Posted: 7/16/2014 11:38 AM

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I'm proud to see two candidates who grew up, at least partly, on Madison's Near East Side. James Whitford graduated from Madison East High School and Shaka Smart spent the early part of his life there before moving to Oregon, WI. In fact, Shaka shot hoops in my back yard!
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Posted: 7/16/2014 12:31 PM

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Wisconsin can do much better than that list.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 12:49 PM

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toshimelonhead wrote: Wisconsin can do much better than that list.
What is much better - who do you have in mind?
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Posted: 7/16/2014 1:16 PM

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Madtowntom wrote:
toshimelonhead wrote: Wisconsin can do much better than that list.
What is much better - who do you have in mind?

Brad Stevens would be a nice fit
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Posted: 7/16/2014 1:29 PM

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WestSideRed wrote:
Madtowntom wrote:
toshimelonhead wrote: Wisconsin can do much better than that list.
What is much better - who do you have in mind?

Brad Stevens would be a nice fit
Despite Stevens being complimentary of the Badgers, this will never, ever happen.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 5:57 PM

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This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 8:09 PM

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uwbadgers wrote: FIFY: http://www.si.com/college-bask...-ryan-wisconsin

Kowalczyk, Wardle, Miller? Yeah, no.

if wardle or kowalczyk would get the job, tmoney would be done following the team!
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Posted: 7/16/2014 8:10 PM

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toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
mark few is never leaving the state of washington!
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Posted: 7/16/2014 9:08 PM

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tmoneylovesguns wrote:
toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
mark few is never leaving the state of washington!
They said the same thing about Gary Andersen leaving the state of Utah.


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Posted: 7/16/2014 9:15 PM

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Monson went to MN from Gonzaga and was terrible there. Few may have the same problem transitioning to the BIG. I am hopeful this topic will not come up for another five years and by then the list will be very different.
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Posted: 7/17/2014 4:33 PM

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Yes, like maybe the Horizon League!  Worked the last time.
toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
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Posted: 7/17/2014 6:40 PM

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badgermitt wrote: Monson went to MN from Gonzaga and was terrible there. Few may have the same problem transitioning to the BIG. I am hopeful this topic will not come up for another five years and by then the list will be very different.
This is the key.  Really hard to make a list like this when it seems like Bo could still be 5 or more years away from retirement.  A lot can happen in that time frame.  5 years ago, Rick Barnes was considered one of the best coaches in the nation, Bob Howland was a god at UCLA, , and nobody even knew who Shaka Smart was.
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Posted: 7/19/2014 11:30 AM

Madtowntom, 


Coach Gard would be a good choice. He's not in my top three because he hasn't been a college head coach. We'll just need to "agree to disagree".
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Posted: 7/19/2014 2:09 PM

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toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
The only ones on that list that would be possible are, Boyle, Cronin and Miller.  And are those really the ones you want to be targeting?

A few years ago, Cronin was on the hot-seat at Cincinnati.  Miller may turn out to be good, but really just had the one season.
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Posted: 7/19/2014 5:26 PM

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I'm curious as to how you know Marshall, Few, and Dixon aren't possible?

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toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
The only ones on that list that would be possible are, Boyle, Cronin and Miller.  And are those really the ones you want to be targeting?

A few years ago, Cronin was on the hot-seat at Cincinnati.  Miller may turn out to be good, but really just had the one season.

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Posted: 7/19/2014 6:25 PM

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SkannerDan wrote:
I'm curious as to how you know Marshall, Few, and Dixon aren't possible?

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toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
The only ones on that list that would be possible are, Boyle, Cronin and Miller.  And are those really the ones you want to be targeting?

A few years ago, Cronin was on the hot-seat at Cincinnati.  Miller may turn out to be good, but really just had the one season.

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Marshall is widely reported to be very happy, partially because everything he wants to accomplish he can accomplish where he is at and it is lower stress.  He has a medical condition, where the lower stress is a big deal to him.  He also likes to recruit JC players, which would not go over well at UW.

Few is happy where he is at and has turned down better jobs.

Dixon may someday leave Pitt, but it won't be for UW…lateral movement.  If he does eventually leave, I wouldn't be surprised if he moves down the ladder and return to build a program at TCU (where he played in college).  Otherwise if he leaves he is moving west.
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Posted: 7/19/2014 7:02 PM

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MUfanPhD wrote:
SkannerDan wrote:
I'm curious as to how you know Marshall, Few, and Dixon aren't possible?

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toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
The only ones on that list that would be possible are, Boyle, Cronin and Miller.  And are those really the ones you want to be targeting?

A few years ago, Cronin was on the hot-seat at Cincinnati.  Miller may turn out to be good, but really just had the one season.

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Marshall is widely reported to be very happy, partially because everything he wants to accomplish he can accomplish where he is at and it is lower stress.  He has a medical condition, where the lower stress is a big deal to him.  He also likes to recruit JC players, which would not go over well at UW.

Few is happy where he is at and has turned down better jobs.

Dixon may someday leave Pitt, but it won't be for UW…lateral movement.  If he does eventually leave, I wouldn't be surprised if he moves down the ladder and return to build a program at TCU (where he played in college).  Otherwise if he leaves he is moving west.
"lateral move" going to UW???? psssssssssssssssssst please!!!!!

if he wanted to move to a mid major he could go to PUKEQUETTE!!
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Posted: 7/19/2014 9:21 PM

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Coach Gard would be a good choice. He's not in my top three because he hasn't been a college head coach. We'll just need to "agree to disagree".

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I wasn't disagreeing with you. I really don't know much about Saul so I was just wondering why you thought he would be a good coach?
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Posted: 7/19/2014 10:09 PM

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You are giving me reasons why they are not probable. You said possible. Do you not understand the difference?




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SkannerDan wrote:
I'm curious as to how you know Marshall, Few, and Dixon aren't possible?

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toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
The only ones on that list that would be possible are, Boyle, Cronin and Miller.  And are those really the ones you want to be targeting?

A few years ago, Cronin was on the hot-seat at Cincinnati.  Miller may turn out to be good, but really just had the one season.

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Marshall is widely reported to be very happy, partially because everything he wants to accomplish he can accomplish where he is at and it is lower stress.  He has a medical condition, where the lower stress is a big deal to him.  He also likes to recruit JC players, which would not go over well at UW.

Few is happy where he is at and has turned down better jobs.

Dixon may someday leave Pitt, but it won't be for UW…lateral movement.  If he does eventually leave, I wouldn't be surprised if he moves down the ladder and return to build a program at TCU (where he played in college).  Otherwise if he leaves he is moving west.

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Posted: 7/20/2014 8:50 AM

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Bo is going to be around at least a few more years, this list will change significantly over that period of time.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 9:36 AM

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When Bo retires, if I'm BA or the new AD I first call Tony Bennett and say the job is his if he wants it.  If he doesn't want it I do the same exact thing with Shaka.  If he doesn't want it and Marshall is still at Wichita St and having success, I offer it to him.  If he doesn't want it, I go with Gard. 

I know Gard doesn't have head coaching experience but he's been a huge part of UW success over the past 10 plus years and been with Bo forever.  I would rather give it to Gard then a lot of the other names from the Mid Major level that were mentioned in this article.

If Saul Phillips is having a lot of success at Ohio, I would strongly consider him as well.  Many other names could emerge in the next couple years before Bo retires, though.  It would be interesting to see what would happen if UW won the National Championship this year.  Would Bo go out on top?   I'm sure a lot of his decision would have to do with how the 2015 recruiting class ends up, namely Stone, Ellenson, and Sharma.  If he has 2 of those guys coming in, would be tough to walk away even with the chance to go out on top.

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Posted: 7/20/2014 11:34 AM

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sconnie232 wrote: When Bo retires, if I'm BA or the new AD I first call Tony Bennett and say the job is his if he wants it.  If he doesn't want it I do the same exact thing with Shaka.  If he doesn't want it and Marshall is still at Wichita St and having success, I offer it to him.  If he doesn't want it, I go with Gard. 

I know Gard doesn't have head coaching experience but he's been a huge part of UW success over the past 10 plus years and been with Bo forever.  I would rather give it to Gard then a lot of the other names from the Mid Major level that were mentioned in this article.

If Saul Phillips is having a lot of success at Ohio, I would strongly consider him as well.  Many other names could emerge in the next couple years before Bo retires, though.  It would be interesting to see what would happen if UW won the National Championship this year.  Would Bo go out on top?   I'm sure a lot of his decision would have to do with how the 2015 recruiting class ends up, namely Stone, Ellenson, and Sharma.  If he has 2 of those guys coming in, would be tough to walk away even with the chance to go out on top.
Phillips has yet to have success at Ohio but has had a nice run at NDSU. Twice getting the team into the NCAA's with first place finishes in the Summit League. If you look at continuity, I'm not sure either Phillips or Gard will play 3rd or 4th fiddles to anybody especially if they've worked well with Alvarez and Ryan tells his boss they're "ready".

BTW, Ryan could very well outlast Alvarez.

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Posted: 7/20/2014 12:02 PM

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"really don't know much about Saul so I was just wondering why you thought he would be a good coach?"
1. Successful high school and college playing career in Wisconsin;
2. Connection with the program(Director of OPS);
3. Successful assist. coach at NDS;
4. Successful Head Coach at NDS.

Coach Gard has several of the points, above, too. The difference is Saul has/will be a Head Coach at two D-1 programs. IF Saul is successful at Ohio, his stock will raise.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:25 AM

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toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
Stevens will be the next coach at IU.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:58 AM

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UncleEd2002 wrote:
toshimelonhead wrote: This is not very likely at all, but if the Celtics did fire Stevens I'm definitely calling him.

Ok, we have Bennett and Shaka on that list, along with some disciples of the Bo coaching tree.  Nothing wrong with that part of the list.  I strongly disagree, however, that we need to stoop down to hire a MAC level coach without aiming higher first.

As for aiming higher, I would add Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Jay Wright, Tad Boyle, Mick Cronin, Archie Miller, and Jamie Dixon.  I am not going to settle before shooting for the fences.
Stevens will be the next coach at IU.
Oh c'mon. Clappy is a lifer. biggrin

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