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New Diamond Stone interview

Posted: 7/10/2014 12:43 PM

New Diamond Stone interview 


Link.

Takeaways.

1. He's backing off the "package deal" thing with him am Malik Newman.

2. In the story, it reports he got physically manhandled by Elijah Thomas.

3. He's dropped about 20 pounds, and is now at around 243.

In my view, I'm not sure Stone is a true one and done player. He sounds like he still needs quite a bit of development before he's a 1st round NBA prospect.

UPDATE: This link has a humorous anecdote about Stone having to dart into the lockerroom during one of the games because he ate too much Macaroni and Cheese.

"We[] make macaroni with real cheese up in Wisconsin,” Stone’s father said with a laugh."

Last edited 7/10/2014 12:52 PM by George2k5

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Posted: 7/10/2014 2:12 PM

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George2k5 wrote: Link.

Takeaways.

1. He's backing off the "package deal" thing with him am Malik Newman.

2. In the story, it reports he got physically manhandled by Elijah Thomas.

3. He's dropped about 20 pounds, and is now at around 243.

In my view, I'm not sure Stone is a true one and done player. He sounds like he still needs quite a bit of development before he's a 1st round NBA prospect.

UPDATE: This link has a humorous anecdote about Stone having to dart into the lockerroom during one of the games because he ate too much Macaroni and Cheese.

"We[] make macaroni with real cheese up in Wisconsin,” Stone’s father said with a laugh."
your #2 is a bit misleading...neither of them scored a field goal...I would imagine both of their defensive games are far ahead of their offensive games.
I do agree with your one and done observations though...Stone has some work to do, but it sounds like he is doing it so good for the young man.
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Posted: 7/10/2014 2:17 PM

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"Stone struggled with the physicality of Thomas, as he was unable to establish good position on the low block and he couldn’t find a way to bully his way to the rim from 15 feet out."

Perhaps not "manhandled" maybe "physically neutralized" would be better.
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Posted: 7/10/2014 2:42 PM

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If he likes the best mac and cheese, it's right here in Madison...plus, then he's be able to re-shape it with the guy who used to work with the Bulls....

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Posted: 7/10/2014 7:21 PM

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badger1972 wrote: If he likes the best mac and cheese, it's right here in Madison...plus, then he's be able to re-shape it with the guy who used to work with the Bulls....
He can also go to Ian's whenever he wants and have it on his pizza.
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Posted: 7/10/2014 10:17 PM

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he ain't going to play with newman because newman ain't going to play at wisconsin an diamond will be.
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Posted: 7/10/2014 11:03 PM

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Free article on this site from July 8th says that Malik reaffirmed the plan that he and Diamond Stone are going to play together in college and are a package deal. He went on to name the schools that are recruiting the two as a package. Sounds like Malik is not backing off the "package deal".
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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:12 AM

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MacBadger wrote: Free article on this site from July 8th says that Malik reaffirmed the plan that he and Diamond Stone are going to play together in college and are a package deal. He went on to name the schools that are recruiting the two as a package. Sounds like Malik is not backing off the "package deal".
Who cares about Malik, only concerned about what Diamond says/thinks.

Interesting to see Jerry Meyer change his prediction from Kentucky to Wisconsin today for Stone.  Hope he knows something or heard something with Bo out watching him this week.

Last edited 7/11/2014 9:20 AM by j19781

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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:22 AM

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Now Stone says he may visit new B1G school, Maryland.

"The point man in Stone's recruitment has been Maryland assistant coach Bino Ranson. The two have a great relationship.

"Coach Bino, I love him to death," he said. “He calls me all the time, talks to me all the time. He’s my guy.”


I'd say the odds of Stone coming to Wisconsin are between slim and none at this point.
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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:42 AM

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George2k5 wrote: Now Stone says he may visit new B1G school, Maryland.

"The point man in Stone's recruitment has been Maryland assistant coach Bino Ranson. The two have a great relationship.

"Coach Bino, I love him to death," he said. “He calls me all the time, talks to me all the time. He’s my guy.”


I'd say the odds of Stone coming to Wisconsin are between slim and none at this point.
first time following the recruiting process?  this is how it works.  I wouldn't rule out anyone or anything right now.  there are a few insiders who think he's going to UW and they surely have a better gauge on the pulse than you linking articles and interviews and drawing broad conclusions from it.
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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:44 AM

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I'd be shocked, at this point, if Diamond Stone ends up at Wisconsin.

I'd be happy to be wrong about it, of course. But, this is the same pattern we saw with every other high profile recruit of this kind. Initial interest, then the biog boys get involved and they start talking about Wisconsin less and less until finally they announce they are going somewhere else.


j19781 wrote:
George2k5 wrote: Now Stone says he may visit new B1G school, Maryland.

"The point man in Stone's recruitment has been Maryland assistant coach Bino Ranson. The two have a great relationship.

"Coach Bino, I love him to death," he said. “He calls me all the time, talks to me all the time. He’s my guy.”


I'd say the odds of Stone coming to Wisconsin are between slim and none at this point.
first time following the recruiting process?  this is how it works.  I wouldn't rule out anyone or anything right now.  there are a few insiders who think he's going to UW and they surely have a better gauge on the pulse than you linking articles and interviews and drawing broad conclusions from it.
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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:45 AM

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George2k5 wrote: Now Stone says he may visit new B1G school, Maryland.

"The point man in Stone's recruitment has been Maryland assistant coach Bino Ranson. The two have a great relationship.

"Coach Bino, I love him to death," he said. “He calls me all the time, talks to me all the time. He’s my guy.”


I'd say the odds of Stone coming to Wisconsin are between slim and none at this point.
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"247sports Director of Basketball Scouting Jerry Meyer has placed a crystal ball prediction for Wisconsin for five-star center Diamond Stone. The Badgers are among a handful of programs across the country currently trying to land the nation's top center. Stone visited Madison twice last season and has yet to name any official leaders, although Wisconsin is believed to be among them."
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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:46 AM

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George2k5 wrote: I'd be shocked, at this point, if Diamond Stone ends up at Wisconsin.

I'd be happy to be wrong about it, of course. But, this is the same pattern we saw with every other high profile recruit of this kind. Initial interest, then the biog boys get involved and they start talking about Wisconsin less and less until finally they announce they are going somewhere else.


j19781 wrote:
George2k5 wrote: Now Stone says he may visit new B1G school, Maryland.

"The point man in Stone's recruitment has been Maryland assistant coach Bino Ranson. The two have a great relationship.

"Coach Bino, I love him to death," he said. “He calls me all the time, talks to me all the time. He’s my guy.”


I'd say the odds of Stone coming to Wisconsin are between slim and none at this point.
first time following the recruiting process?  this is how it works.  I wouldn't rule out anyone or anything right now.  there are a few insiders who think he's going to UW and they surely have a better gauge on the pulse than you linking articles and interviews and drawing broad conclusions from it.
Evan Flood     @ Evan_Flood                       4m         
Been saying for over a year the # Badgers are more of a threat for Stone than people know. Wisconsin is a factor.
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Posted: 7/11/2014 9:52 AM

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Yes. I'm sure there will be a Wisconsin baseball cap on the table when Diamond does his televised announcement of where he's going to school.
j19781 wrote:
George2k5 wrote: I'd be shocked, at this point, if Diamond Stone ends up at Wisconsin.

I'd be happy to be wrong about it, of course. But, this is the same pattern we saw with every other high profile recruit of this kind. Initial interest, then the biog boys get involved and they start talking about Wisconsin less and less until finally they announce they are going somewhere else.


j19781 wrote:
George2k5 wrote: Now Stone says he may visit new B1G school, Maryland.

"The point man in Stone's recruitment has been Maryland assistant coach Bino Ranson. The two have a great relationship.

"Coach Bino, I love him to death," he said. “He calls me all the time, talks to me all the time. He’s my guy.”


I'd say the odds of Stone coming to Wisconsin are between slim and none at this point.
first time following the recruiting process?  this is how it works.  I wouldn't rule out anyone or anything right now.  there are a few insiders who think he's going to UW and they surely have a better gauge on the pulse than you linking articles and interviews and drawing broad conclusions from it.
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Been saying for over a year the # Badgers are more of a threat for Stone than people know. Wisconsin is a factor.
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Posted: 7/11/2014 11:03 AM

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Evan Flood     @ Evan_Flood                       1h                         

Believe it's been Stone for a few months RT @ olewr7: @ Evan_Flood at this point do you think Ellenson or Stone is more likely to Badgers?



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Posted: 7/11/2014 12:28 PM

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Momentum really seems to be picking up for Wisconsin and Diamond Stone.

I think it's HUGE that his cousin Ryan Evans just finished playing for Bo and had a great experience and his other cousin Dare Ogunbawale is on the football team. PLUS Bo and Bob Stone go way back.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 10:42 AM

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Posted: 7/12/2014 11:41 AM

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j19781 wrote:
MacBadger wrote: Free article on this site from July 8th says that Malik reaffirmed the plan that he and Diamond Stone are going to play together in college and are a package deal. He went on to name the schools that are recruiting the two as a package. Sounds like Malik is not backing off the "package deal".
Who cares about Malik, only concerned about what Diamond says/thinks.

Interesting to see Jerry Meyer change his prediction from Kentucky to Wisconsin today for Stone.  Hope he knows something or heard something with Bo out watching him this week.
Kentucky isn't recruiting Stone. His crystal ball pick was likely based off the assumption that he gonna play with Malik Newman and Newman is considered a strong UK lean. Kinda odd though since UK and Stone have never really been a thing.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 12:56 PM

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dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]

Last edited 7/12/2014 12:58 PM by redline59

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Posted: 7/12/2014 1:14 PM

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redline59 wrote:
dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]
With you right up to the last line.  Do you really think that they wouldn't prefer great talent that stays more than one year at Kentucky?
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Posted: 7/12/2014 1:24 PM

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D3Badger wrote:
redline59 wrote:
dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]
With you right up to the last line.  Do you really think that they wouldn't prefer great talent that stays more than one year at Kentucky?
You know D3,  i dont know, thats why i said "maybe".   From everything we hear and read i guess i'm
geared to think thar way.....ya.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 1:25 PM

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redline59 wrote:
dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]
I don't know if he or any other member of this class is a one and done player, neither does Cal or Bo Ryan. He could go to college, tear it up and be gone, or he could need 3-4 years. Cal recruits elite players who fit his system, a lot of them do leave after one year because they're ready but he wouldn't pass on a recruit because he was a multi year player. The amount of ignorance on this subject is staggering.

Cal hasn't offered because this class is loaded with elite big men, and while Stone is great, he's concentrating on other great bigs like Diallo, Labissiere, Rabb, and Thon Maker who is likely to reclassify who fit his system better.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 4:34 PM

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Prince0fDarkness wrote:
j19781 wrote:
MacBadger wrote: Free article on this site from July 8th says that Malik reaffirmed the plan that he and Diamond Stone are going to play together in college and are a package deal. He went on to name the schools that are recruiting the two as a package. Sounds like Malik is not backing off the "package deal".
Who cares about Malik, only concerned about what Diamond says/thinks.

Interesting to see Jerry Meyer change his prediction from Kentucky to Wisconsin today for Stone.  Hope he knows something or heard something with Bo out watching him this week.
Kentucky isn't recruiting Stone. His crystal ball pick was likely based off the assumption that he gonna play with Malik Newman and Newman is considered a strong UK lean. Kinda odd though since UK and Stone have never really been a thing.
your wrong on this.....Diamond himself just stated in an interview that Kentucky offered him and that they are recruiting him "hard, real hard."
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Posted: 7/12/2014 4:45 PM

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dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]

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That's utterly ridiculous and patently untrue. Bo has said MANY times he'd take a one-and-done player. Stone could very easily be 1-and-done.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 5:15 PM

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BigTenwatcher wrote:


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dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]

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That's utterly ridiculous and patently untrue. Bo has said MANY times he'd take a one-and-done player. Stone could very easily be 1-and-done.
I don't believe he's ever come out and said he'd take a one-and-done. He has left the possibility open tho. I can think of only one he actively recruited and he started recruiting him when the guy was a sophomore a no one knew he'd be a one-and-done.

He's also said he likes to spend time with his recruits, and watch them develop through the years under his tutelage.  And as I recall, he made a few comments about the recruiting strategies of others not being his as I recall. A couple raised an eyebrow or two.

All his comments lead me to believe that if the guy while in HS thinks he's so good that he has only one goal and that is to get his one year out of the way because the NBA requires it before entering the draft Ryan will most likely steer around him. On the other hand, if the guy develops to the extent that he's now attractive to the Pros while he's at Wisconsin, whatever year he's in, Ryan will give him his blessing.

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Posted: 7/12/2014 5:26 PM

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BigTenwatcher wrote:


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dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]

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That's utterly ridiculous and patently untrue. Bo has said MANY times he'd take a one-and-done player. Stone could very easily be 1-and-done.
I don't believe he's ever come out and said he'd take a one-and-done. He has left the possibility open tho. I can think of only one he actively recruited and he started recruiting him when the guy was a sophomore a no one knew he'd be a one-and-done.

He's also said he likes to spend time with his recruits, and watch them develop through the years under his tutelage.  And as I recall, he made a few comments about the recruiting strategies of others not being his as I recall. A couple raised an eyebrow or two.

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So you don't believe Bo showed interest in someone like Jabari Parker as an example?
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Posted: 7/12/2014 6:34 PM

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joelfredricks wrote:
Prince0fDarkness wrote:
j19781 wrote:
MacBadger wrote: Free article on this site from July 8th says that Malik reaffirmed the plan that he and Diamond Stone are going to play together in college and are a package deal. He went on to name the schools that are recruiting the two as a package. Sounds like Malik is not backing off the "package deal".
Who cares about Malik, only concerned about what Diamond says/thinks.

Interesting to see Jerry Meyer change his prediction from Kentucky to Wisconsin today for Stone.  Hope he knows something or heard something with Bo out watching him this week.
Kentucky isn't recruiting Stone. His crystal ball pick was likely based off the assumption that he gonna play with Malik Newman and Newman is considered a strong UK lean. Kinda odd though since UK and Stone have never really been a thing.
your wrong on this.....Diamond himself just stated in an interview that Kentucky offered him and that they are recruiting him "hard, real hard."
I hope he doesn't plan to commit because that would be awkward, real awkward.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 7:23 PM

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D3Badger wrote:


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BigTenwatcher wrote:


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dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]

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That's utterly ridiculous and patently untrue. Bo has said MANY times he'd take a one-and-done player. Stone could very easily be 1-and-done.
I don't believe he's ever come out and said he'd take a one-and-done. He has left the possibility open tho. I can think of only one he actively recruited and he started recruiting him when the guy was a sophomore a no one knew he'd be a one-and-done.

He's also said he likes to spend time with his recruits, and watch them develop through the years under his tutelage.  And as I recall, he made a few comments about the recruiting strategies of others not being his as I recall. A couple raised an eyebrow or two.

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So you don't believe Bo showed interest in someone like Jabari Parker as an example.
Not if the kid is up front and shows his interest in attending college for a year is only to satisfy the NBA, no. Ryan has made way too many comments in way too many interviews for anyone to objectively think otherwise.

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Posted: 7/12/2014 8:01 PM

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If someone else already posted this, sorry, but apparently Mark Miller changed his prediction for Stone from Kentucky to UW.

Of course, for some on this board MM is persona non grata.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 8:27 PM

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UnknownBadger wrote:
D3Badger wrote:


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BigTenwatcher wrote:


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dougpaschal wrote: cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/...eakout-classic/
Great read.....thanks.
I'm starting to have a good feeling about Stone at THE UW.   The young man seems to have a good understanding of his game and how to handle all the hype.  I do not think he is brandishing himself 
as a "one and done" player either.......i think he's smarter than that.

And its obvious BO doesn't think so either. [and maybe thats why Cal at UK havent offered him.....ya think?]

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That's utterly ridiculous and patently untrue. Bo has said MANY times he'd take a one-and-done player. Stone could very easily be 1-and-done.
I don't believe he's ever come out and said he'd take a one-and-done. He has left the possibility open tho. I can think of only one he actively recruited and he started recruiting him when the guy was a sophomore a no one knew he'd be a one-and-done.

He's also said he likes to spend time with his recruits, and watch them develop through the years under his tutelage.  And as I recall, he made a few comments about the recruiting strategies of others not being his as I recall. A couple raised an eyebrow or two.

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So you don't believe Bo showed interest in someone like Jabari Parker as an example.
Not if the kid is up front and shows his intereset attending college for a year is to satisfy the NBA, no. Ryan has made way too many comments in way too many interviews for anyone objectively think otherwise.
My intention here was not to open up another "one and done" can of worms debate, but rather to say that perhaps Mr Stone wants to learn the game and develop into a very good player, and that may take 2-3 years.   Which is why i think his relationship with BO is much better than with Cal at this point.  Coach Cal wants the notoriety of getting a top recruiting class every year, of which 3-4 players move on after 1 year.
BO likes to give the kids a chance to develop in 3+years,  and perhaps that is of more interest to Mr. Stone, [and his parents].     Right now i'd say THE UW is in the drivers seat for Mr Stones' talents.
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