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The New Henry Ellenson Thread

  • jakeec
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Posted: 6/24/2014 4:03 PM

The New Henry Ellenson Thread 


The last thread has become unbearable.  This can be a place for anymore Henry Ellenson news.  The newest rumor, that I cannot find any reputable sites reporting, is that Wally Ellenson is going to accept a fully scholarship to UW to do track and field.  He would then be unable to play basketball.  Again it could be completely made up but it would be good news for the Badgers
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Posted: 6/24/2014 4:36 PM

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Thank You! Can we please keep this thread on the topic that is posted - The New Henry Ellenson Thread.

Posted: 6/24/2014 9:04 PM

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Thank you. Now, lets hope for some good news.

Posted: 6/25/2014 8:25 AM

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Why wouldn't Wally be able to play basketball?


Posted: 6/25/2014 8:38 AM

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Cannot play FB or BB if on scholarship in nonrevenue sport.  If do, that scholarship applies to FB or BB.

Posted: 6/25/2014 9:17 AM

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Never heard that before


Posted: 6/25/2014 9:32 AM

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Activebadger wrote: Never heard that before
If that rule wasn't in place every BCS school would have 50 extra guys on the team every year who were running the 100 yard dash or doing shot put and playing football.

Posted: 6/25/2014 9:49 AM

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So how much eligibility would Wally Ellenson have left if he transfers to Wisconsin? You lose one year when you transfer within the conference, right?
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Posted: 6/25/2014 10:47 AM

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LakeAlexander wrote: So how much eligibility would Wally Ellenson have left if he transfers to Wisconsin? You lose one year when you transfer within the conference, right?
I do not believe that is true for the sports outside of basketball and football.

Posted: 6/25/2014 11:03 AM

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Rumbi wrote:
LakeAlexander wrote: So how much eligibility would Wally Ellenson have left if he transfers to Wisconsin? You lose one year when you transfer within the conference, right?
I do not believe that is true for the sports outside of basketball and football.
Thanks, that's good for him otherwise he would only have one year left.

Posted: 6/25/2014 12:24 PM

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Wasn't Paul Hubbard on a track scholly and then joined the football team as a walk on?

RichInBunlyGoodness wrote:
Activebadger wrote: Never heard that before
If that rule wasn't in place every BCS school would have 50 extra guys on the team every year who were running the 100 yard dash or doing shot put and playing football.

Last edited 6/25/2014 12:24 PM by SaMOKEY

Posted: 6/25/2014 1:12 PM

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During his redshirt season, yes, he was still on a track scholly. That was okay since he wasn't playing in games. He had to switch over to a football scholarship the next season.

Posted: 6/26/2014 7:15 AM

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Reportedly Henry is visiting Northwestern this weekend.  Don't know if it's official or unofficial. Also don't know if Wally is also visiting.

It's also been reported that both brothers will visit MU.  Again, do not know if it's official or unofficial.

Last edited 6/26/2014 7:18 AM by SilverWarrior

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Posted: 6/26/2014 7:53 AM

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Activebadger wrote: Never heard that before

And to further add to this, if a player plays both football and basketball, he counts as a FB scholly.  FB is first in line, then BB, then other sports.

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Posted: 6/26/2014 8:49 AM

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SilverWarrior wrote: Reportedly Henry is visiting Northwestern this weekend.  Don't know if it's official or unofficial. Also don't know if Wally is also visiting.

It's also been reported that both brothers will visit MU.  Again, do not know if it's official or unofficial.
This isn't some kind of package deal is it?  Because we all know that there are posters on this board who don't want no part of no stinking package deal and would certainly turn on Henry if he was trying to find one.

Posted: 6/26/2014 12:18 PM

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Henry is playing in a team camp at NW this weekend.

SilverWarrior wrote: Reportedly Henry is visiting Northwestern this weekend.  Don't know if it's official or unofficial. Also don't know if Wally is also visiting.

It's also been reported that both brothers will visit MU.  Again, do not know if it's official or unofficial.

Posted: 6/27/2014 12:07 PM

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TOS just updated their 2015 Rivals 150 rankings. Ellenson was one of their "biggest movers" going from #56 to #17. Pritzl debuted at #94.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 12:37 PM

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zedcom wrote: TOS just updated their 2015 Rivals 150 rankings. Ellenson was one of their "biggest movers" going from #56 to #17. Pritzl debuted at #94.
Pritzl is now firmly a top 100 guy with rankings of 94, 70, and 60 from the three main recruiting sites.  ESPN is the only one of the four with him outside the top 100.

Ellenson is now top 20 in pretty much every recruiting service.  Land those two and we are off to a great start.  Get Sharma as well and this could be one of the best classes ever (on paper of course) for Bo with 2 or more spots left to fill!

Posted: 6/27/2014 2:34 PM

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jakeec wrote:
zedcom wrote: TOS just updated their 2015 Rivals 150 rankings. Ellenson was one of their "biggest movers" going from #56 to #17. Pritzl debuted at #94.
Pritzl is now firmly a top 100 guy with rankings of 94, 70, and 60 from the three main recruiting sites.  ESPN is the only one of the four with him outside the top 100.

Ellenson is now top 20 in pretty much every recruiting service.  Land those two and we are off to a great start.  Get Sharma as well and this could be one of the best classes ever (on paper of course) for Bo with 2 or more spots left to fill!
Didn't Pritzl already commit to the Badgers?

Edit: For some reason, I thought I was still on the MU scout page. I think it's because I was just reading (on their page) how Mark Miller is predicting Ellenson to MU...

Last edited 6/27/2014 2:35 PM by MUsplitUW

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Posted: 6/27/2014 6:53 PM

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MUsplitUW wrote:
jakeec wrote:
zedcom wrote: TOS just updated their 2015 Rivals 150 rankings. Ellenson was one of their "biggest movers" going from #56 to #17. Pritzl debuted at #94.
Pritzl is now firmly a top 100 guy with rankings of 94, 70, and 60 from the three main recruiting sites.  ESPN is the only one of the four with him outside the top 100.

Ellenson is now top 20 in pretty much every recruiting service.  Land those two and we are off to a great start.  Get Sharma as well and this could be one of the best classes ever (on paper of course) for Bo with 2 or more spots left to fill!
Didn't Pritzl already commit to the Badgers?

Edit: For some reason, I thought I was still on the MU scout page. I think it's because I was just reading (on their page) how Mark Miller is predicting Ellenson to MU...
I worded that really poorly.  Yes they have landed Pritzl and if they land Ellenson that is a great first two.

Posted: 6/27/2014 7:38 PM

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If that's true, it's probably because so many Badger fans have trashed him on this and other sites.  He has been insulted by quite a few posters on this site alone.

The truth is, however, regardless of what some UW fans might want to think, that no one in the state has a better handle on the high school basketball scene than Mark does.

By the way, if MM does have a problem/issue with UW vis a vis MU, I don't think it has anything to do with the respective programs, players, or coaches.  I firmly believe Mark respects the program and even admires it for what Ryan has accomplished, and he also respects the players - especially those from in-state like Gasser, Dekker, Koening, Showalter, etc.

I think it's a select few Badger fans that he might take issue with.  Of course, that's just my opinion.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 8:24 PM

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Rumor has it MU offered Wally a scholarship-maybe to lure Henry as he said he would like to play with his brother???

Posted: 6/29/2014 10:55 AM

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In think we should be concerned especially if Wojo offers Wally. With Wilson's dad coaching Henrys team And Nick N on I too, that is heavy MU come to me in Henry's ears. also, Henry has said family first.
What are you going to do?

Offer Wally ( heard last week MU has )? UW staff has never felt Wally was good enough. Wally's time at Minnesota backs that up. The family won't be happy with Wally just sitting on the bench. They made that clear through message boards and the media while Wally was at Minn.

Do you want to cozy up to Wilson's dad? UW has kept a certain distance and there are reasons for that.

Take Noskowiak? I don't recall other B1G coaches rushing in to recruit him either. 

MU is playing its cards. If the Ellenson's feel that is where they want to be for those reasons there is not much the UW can do. UW has to sell the opportunities that they have to offer. Playing for a top ten national program. A top ten national coach and likely future hall of famer. A preseason  #1 team in the nation coming off a final four. Playing in the top conference in the nation that is only growing stronger in almost every way. Living in one of the top small cities in the nation. Attending a B1G academic institution. I could go on. The point is UW has to sell what UW has to offer. Ellenson will have to decide what is most important to him.
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Last edited 6/29/2014 11:41 AM by redforeman62

Posted: 6/29/2014 11:34 AM

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redforeman62 wrote:
jumpinjackflashback wrote:



In think we should be concerned especially if Wojo offers Wally. With Wilson's dad coaching Henrys team And Nick N on I too, that is heavy MU come to me in Henry's ears. also, Henry has said family first.
What are you going to do?

Offer Wally ( heard last MU has )? UW staff has never felt Wally was good enough. Wally's time at Minnesota backs that up. The family won't be happy with Wally just sitting on the bench. They made that clear through message boards and the media while Wally was at Minn.

Do you want to cozy up to Wilson's dad? UW has kept a certain distance and there are reasons for that.

Take Noskowiak? I don't recall other B1G coaches rushing in to recruit him either. 

MU is playing its cards. If the Ellenson's feel that is where they want to be for those reasons there is not much the UW can do. UW has to sell the opportunities that they have to offer. Playing for a top ten national program. A top ten national coach and likely future hall of famer. A preseason  #1 team in the nation coming off a final four. Playing in the top conference in the nation that is only growing stronger in almost every way. Living in one of the top small cities in the nation. Attending a B1G academic institution. I could go on. The point is UW has to sell what UW has to offer. Ellenson will have to decide what is most important to him.
Add on, " and playing for your home state school where most of your friends and relatives watch every game on TV".  The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence.  It's pretty green right here in Madison.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 1:52 PM

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redforeman62 wrote:
MU is playing its cards.
A new coach with no track record whatsoever.  No guarantee of where they will actually be playing during Henry's time there.  A conference that is barely a shadow of its former self.

Those are some great cards.

I would laugh really, really hard if the Ellenson's used Henry recruitment to get Wally into Marquette, followed by Henry choosing whatever school he wants to go to.  Wouldn't even have to be Wisconsin.

Posted: 6/29/2014 4:13 PM

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Ellenson has offers from: 

Arizona State, Baylor, Creighton, DePaul, Duke, Iowa, Iowa State, Michigan State, Minnesota, North Carolina, Northwestern, Purdue, UCLA, Wisconsin

Why would he even consider an offer from Marquette and their new mid level conference? It should still be The Badgers and Duke...in that order if the kid is really a 'baller' and wants to stay close to home! Unless there is a problem that we don't know about.

Would any parent request a child with great potential to make the ultimate sacrifice in his career (for his brother) by going to a mid level program? Would his brother allow it. That all just sounds silly. Plus, there could very easily be a scholarship at UW for both. 

So....go Badgers.

Last edited 6/29/2014 4:46 PM by ThirstyDog

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Posted: 6/29/2014 4:44 PM

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We seem to go through this with every top level in state recruit for the last several years. Diamond Stone is now deemed all but gone. Now Ellenson is leaning elsewhere.

How can this be? UW is a very successful basketball program. We have finished high in the best conference in the country for years and years. Now we just went to the final four. UW is the big time in state school.

Yet we still pull our hair out trying to recruit kids in our own state, even against an in state foe that plays in a lesser conference with a brand new coach.

I don't get it. I know, I know. Its that every player has their own ideas. Its grades. Its AAU. Its playing time. Its attitude. Its where your girlfriend or brother goes to school. Yea, yea, yea.

The heck with all that. A Kansas kid would go to Kansas no matter what the problem. An Indiana kid would too. Why don't our own kids bleed cardinal and white and come here?

I'm a Badger, and would come here no matter if Kentucky and North Carolina and Indiana and  Duke all offered me. What's wrong with this senario of having them bypass UW?

As Mike Lucas said, its a no brainer that we need to land either Stone or Ellenson, especially coming off a final four year. I would think that any non partial fan would say its almost  impossible for Wisconsin not to get one or both. Our program would be a laughing stock all over if a final four BIG team could not land either of its two best in state players.

Sure, Bo will coach the others up. But what a dirty crying shame it would be.

Last edited 6/29/2014 4:49 PM by travrest

Posted: 6/29/2014 6:17 PM

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Just take a deep breath, and repeat 15 times: "I will stop getting my panties all bunched up for no reason,"

Posted: 6/29/2014 6:53 PM

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Just take a deep breath, and repeat 15 times: "I will stop getting my panties all bunched up for no reason,"

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Could't agree more! Clearly, if Ellenson comes to Wisconsin, it will be for all the right reasons! And if he goes to MU, it will be for all the wrong reasons! :-)
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Posted: 6/29/2014 7:42 PM

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ThirstyDog wrote: Ellenson has offers from: 

Arizona State, Baylor, Creighton, DePaul, Duke, Iowa, Iowa State, Michigan State, Minnesota, North Carolina, Northwestern, Purdue, UCLA, Wisconsin

Why would he even consider an offer from Marquette and their new mid level conference? It should still be The Badgers and Duke...in that order if the kid is really a 'baller' and wants to stay close to home! Unless there is a problem that we don't know about.

Would any parent request a child with great potential to make the ultimate sacrifice in his career (for his brother) by going to a mid level program? Would his brother allow it. That all just sounds silly. Plus, there could very easily be a scholarship at UW for both. 

So....go Badgers.
 

Ellenson would be a great fit at UW and would no doubt improve his skills and play on teams that have a chance to be very successful but do you really want to get in to a debate about furthering a career in basketball when it comes to going to UW vs. other schools even if those schools are "mid major"?
There have been six mid major lottery picks in the past three years in the NBA.  Talent will be found wherever it plays.
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