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Matt Ferris officially a walk on

Posted: 6/9/2014 3:47 PM

Matt Ferris officially a walk on 


6'5" swing man Matt Ferris from Appleton Xavier is joining the Wisconsin basketball program as a walk on.

Ferris of course is noted for setting all kinds of state passing records at Xavier in football.  I'm sure a lot of people will wonder heck why not give the kid a look on the football field at some point?  Maybe Ryan will use him to inbound it in closing seconds when a deep pass is called for?
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Posted: 6/9/2014 5:14 PM

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Incredibly gifted athlete in three sports. Glad to have him on board.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 7:10 PM

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Great Student and athlete - Welcome!  Nice class of 3.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 12:12 PM

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In terms of new scholarship recruits, our 2014 class is a one man class, Happ, a 6' 8" forward who could turn out to be a very good player, but the 2014 class also includes three 6' 5" shooting guards, all good 3-point shooters.  You'd expect Dearring, a 2013 scholarship recruit, to be the one who plays meaningful minutes during his career and pushes for a starting role at some point, but it is possible that any one of these three, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, could contribute, and the fact that there are three incerases the chance that at least one will end up contributing.  Between Showalter, Hill, Pritzl, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, it will be an intense competition for the starting shooting guard spot in 2015.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 12:23 PM

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Walk ons are nothing more than extra practice bodies.  If we need regular contributions from them then we have other problems.
dcamp wrote: In terms of new scholarship recruits, our 2014 class is a one man class, Happ, a 6' 8" forward who could turn out to be a very good player, but the 2014 class also includes three 6' 5" shooting guards, all good 3-point shooters.  You'd expect Dearring, a 2013 scholarship recruit, to be the one who plays meaningful minutes during his career and pushes for a starting role at some point, but it is possible that any one of these three, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, could contribute, and the fact that there are three incerases the chance that at least one will end up contributing.  Between Showalter, Hill, Pritzl, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, it will be an intense competition for the starting shooting guard spot in 2015.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 12:37 PM

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SaMOKEY wrote: Walk ons are nothing more than extra practice bodies.  If we need regular contributions from them then we have other problems.
dcamp wrote: In terms of new scholarship recruits, our 2014 class is a one man class, Happ, a 6' 8" forward who could turn out to be a very good player, but the 2014 class also includes three 6' 5" shooting guards, all good 3-point shooters.  You'd expect Dearring, a 2013 scholarship recruit, to be the one who plays meaningful minutes during his career and pushes for a starting role at some point, but it is possible that any one of these three, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, could contribute, and the fact that there are three incerases the chance that at least one will end up contributing.  Between Showalter, Hill, Pritzl, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, it will be an intense competition for the starting shooting guard spot in 2015.
Tell that to Showalter, who could be a starter as a redshirt junior in 2015, or at the very least a key rotation player.  The 2014 class actually includes two scholarship players and three preferred walkons, Schlundt, Ferris, and Moesch, any one of who could conceivably be our next Hanson or Gullickson.  Chances are small, yes, and it is nothing to count on, but it could happen.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 12:55 PM

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Most walk ons are "preferred".  Wquinton Smith and JD wise were true walk ons who made the team via an open tryout.  That is rare.  Hell....Dan Fahey and Brett Valentyn were preferred walk ons.

Let's stop with the ball washing of Showalter.  Showalter will never be a starter here.  He can't dribble and he's too slow to guard anyone.  His upside is to play Gullikson type minutes.   When Bo is pissed at the effort on the floor and needs to make a point.....Showalter will get the call.  

You can't look at the roster and say so and so will play strictly based on attrition.  There are guys being recruited like Jarvis Johnson who will come in take those minutes.  Again if we have to rely on Showalter then we have bigger problems.  He is a walk on for a reason.

dcamp wrote:
SaMOKEY wrote: Walk ons are nothing more than extra practice bodies.  If we need regular contributions from them then we have other problems.
dcamp wrote: In terms of new scholarship recruits, our 2014 class is a one man class, Happ, a 6' 8" forward who could turn out to be a very good player, but the 2014 class also includes three 6' 5" shooting guards, all good 3-point shooters.  You'd expect Dearring, a 2013 scholarship recruit, to be the one who plays meaningful minutes during his career and pushes for a starting role at some point, but it is possible that any one of these three, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, could contribute, and the fact that there are three incerases the chance that at least one will end up contributing.  Between Showalter, Hill, Pritzl, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, it will be an intense competition for the starting shooting guard spot in 2015.
Tell that to Showalter, who could be a starter as a redshirt junior in 2015, or at the very least a key rotation player.  The 2014 class actually includes two scholarship players and three preferred walkons, Schlundt, Ferris, and Moesch, any one of who could conceivably be our next Hanson or Gullickson.  Chances are small, yes, and it is nothing to count on, but it could happen.

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Posted: 6/10/2014 1:14 PM

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I fully agree that walkons do not contribute as often in basketball as in football and that it is a long shot that any particular walkon ever will.  And the jury is still out on Showalter, who, believe or not, may be better this fall than he was a year and a half ago.  Some here are still in denial that Jackson will ever be good to deserve to be on the court and didn't accept Brust as a decent player until he'd been a starter for a full year.

I guess I will just say it is not black and white, i.e., it is not an absolute given that every player who gets a scholarship is leaps and bounds better than every player who does not get a scholarship.  It is shades of gray.  Gasser just barely got a scholarship.  If Diamond Taylor hadn't self destructed when he did, we were asking Gasser to walk on his first year.  Showalter, a three star two-time all state player was probably considered for a scholarship.  He was a little on one side of the line, and Gasser ended up just on the other side of that same line. 

UW Green Bay and UW Milwaukee have been in the NCAA tournament, and Schlundt was offered by them.  Some of their players have given us fits.  Green Bay's Brown might be drafted this year.  He certainly ended up better than Anderson, one of our scholarship players.  Is it not possible, however small that chance might be, that Schlundt is one of those players who ends up better than his ranking and offer list, and therefore good enough to play here?  I am simply saying it could happen, even if the chance is small, it could happen.  Ferris and Moesch are probably more typical walkons, but you never know.  I do think this year's group of walkons could be our best ever, and closer to what we see every year in football, where every year a few players prove there is a gray area between the black and white, than is usually the case.

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Posted: 6/10/2014 2:32 PM

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SaMOKEY wrote: Most walk ons are "preferred".  Wquinton Smith and JD wise were true walk ons who made the team via an open tryout.  That is rare.  Hell....Dan Fahey and Brett Valentyn were preferred walk ons.

Let's stop with the ball washing of Showalter.  Showalter will never be a starter here.  He can't dribble and he's too slow to guard anyone.  His upside is to play Gullikson type minutes.   When Bo is pissed at the effort on the floor and needs to make a point.....Showalter will get the call.  

You can't look at the roster and say so and so will play strictly based on attrition.  There are guys being recruited like Jarvis Johnson who will come in take those minutes.  Again if we have to rely on Showalter then we have bigger problems.  He is a walk on for a reason.

dcamp wrote:
SaMOKEY wrote: Walk ons are nothing more than extra practice bodies.  If we need regular contributions from them then we have other problems.
dcamp wrote: In terms of new scholarship recruits, our 2014 class is a one man class, Happ, a 6' 8" forward who could turn out to be a very good player, but the 2014 class also includes three 6' 5" shooting guards, all good 3-point shooters.  You'd expect Dearring, a 2013 scholarship recruit, to be the one who plays meaningful minutes during his career and pushes for a starting role at some point, but it is possible that any one of these three, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, could contribute, and the fact that there are three incerases the chance that at least one will end up contributing.  Between Showalter, Hill, Pritzl, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, it will be an intense competition for the starting shooting guard spot in 2015.
Tell that to Showalter, who could be a starter as a redshirt junior in 2015, or at the very least a key rotation player.  The 2014 class actually includes two scholarship players and three preferred walkons, Schlundt, Ferris, and Moesch, any one of who could conceivably be our next Hanson or Gullickson.  Chances are small, yes, and it is nothing to count on, but it could happen.
I think you're underrating Showy.  This kid has athleticism, court awareness and toughness. Mix in some confidence after developing his balls skills and you got something.    He may or may not be a starter, but I think he is going to be a solid contributor, much more so than Gullickson.   He is going to be an asset.

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Posted: 6/10/2014 4:42 PM

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gus4badger wrote:
SaMOKEY wrote: Most walk ons are "preferred".  Wquinton Smith and JD wise were true walk ons who made the team via an open tryout.  That is rare.  Hell....Dan Fahey and Brett Valentyn were preferred walk ons.

Let's stop with the ball washing of Showalter.  Showalter will never be a starter here.  He can't dribble and he's too slow to guard anyone.  His upside is to play Gullikson type minutes.   When Bo is pissed at the effort on the floor and needs to make a point.....Showalter will get the call.  

You can't look at the roster and say so and so will play strictly based on attrition.  There are guys being recruited like Jarvis Johnson who will come in take those minutes.  Again if we have to rely on Showalter then we have bigger problems.  He is a walk on for a reason.

dcamp wrote:
SaMOKEY wrote: Walk ons are nothing more than extra practice bodies.  If we need regular contributions from them then we have other problems.
dcamp wrote: In terms of new scholarship recruits, our 2014 class is a one man class, Happ, a 6' 8" forward who could turn out to be a very good player, but the 2014 class also includes three 6' 5" shooting guards, all good 3-point shooters.  You'd expect Dearring, a 2013 scholarship recruit, to be the one who plays meaningful minutes during his career and pushes for a starting role at some point, but it is possible that any one of these three, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, could contribute, and the fact that there are three incerases the chance that at least one will end up contributing.  Between Showalter, Hill, Pritzl, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, it will be an intense competition for the starting shooting guard spot in 2015.
Tell that to Showalter, who could be a starter as a redshirt junior in 2015, or at the very least a key rotation player.  The 2014 class actually includes two scholarship players and three preferred walkons, Schlundt, Ferris, and Moesch, any one of who could conceivably be our next Hanson or Gullickson.  Chances are small, yes, and it is nothing to count on, but it could happen.
I think you're underrating Showy.  This kid has athleticism, court awareness and toughness. Mix in some confidence after developing his balls skills and you got something.    He may or may not be a starter, but I think he is going to be a solid contributor, much more so than Gullickson.   He is going to be an asset.
While I don't disagree with SamOkey's assessment of the utility of walkons in general, I do believe that Showalter is a bit different. There was a reason why he had over 20 D1 offers and was rated a 3 star on a couple of the recruiting services. If he can overcome some of the skill limitations pointed out he could become a regular contributor and maybe even a starter before he garduates
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Posted: 6/10/2014 5:02 PM

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Madtowntom wrote:
gus4badger wrote:
SaMOKEY wrote: Most walk ons are "preferred".  Wquinton Smith and JD wise were true walk ons who made the team via an open tryout.  That is rare.  Hell....Dan Fahey and Brett Valentyn were preferred walk ons.

Let's stop with the ball washing of Showalter.  Showalter will never be a starter here.  He can't dribble and he's too slow to guard anyone.  His upside is to play Gullikson type minutes.   When Bo is pissed at the effort on the floor and needs to make a point.....Showalter will get the call.  

You can't look at the roster and say so and so will play strictly based on attrition.  There are guys being recruited like Jarvis Johnson who will come in take those minutes.  Again if we have to rely on Showalter then we have bigger problems.  He is a walk on for a reason.

dcamp wrote:
SaMOKEY wrote: Walk ons are nothing more than extra practice bodies.  If we need regular contributions from them then we have other problems.
dcamp wrote: In terms of new scholarship recruits, our 2014 class is a one man class, Happ, a 6' 8" forward who could turn out to be a very good player, but the 2014 class also includes three 6' 5" shooting guards, all good 3-point shooters.  You'd expect Dearring, a 2013 scholarship recruit, to be the one who plays meaningful minutes during his career and pushes for a starting role at some point, but it is possible that any one of these three, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, could contribute, and the fact that there are three incerases the chance that at least one will end up contributing.  Between Showalter, Hill, Pritzl, Dearring, Schlundt, and Ferris, it will be an intense competition for the starting shooting guard spot in 2015.
Tell that to Showalter, who could be a starter as a redshirt junior in 2015, or at the very least a key rotation player.  The 2014 class actually includes two scholarship players and three preferred walkons, Schlundt, Ferris, and Moesch, any one of who could conceivably be our next Hanson or Gullickson.  Chances are small, yes, and it is nothing to count on, but it could happen.
I think you're underrating Showy.  This kid has athleticism, court awareness and toughness. Mix in some confidence after developing his balls skills and you got something.    He may or may not be a starter, but I think he is going to be a solid contributor, much more so than Gullickson.   He is going to be an asset.
While I don't disagree with SamOkey's assessment of the utility of walkons in general, I do believe that Showalter is a bit different. There was a reason why he had over 20 D1 offers and was rated a 3 star on a couple of the recruiting services. If he can overcome some of the skill limitations pointed out he could become a regular contributor and maybe even a starter before he garduates
His best deal was to play year one and RS year two. I think he will be a significant contributor down the line. Kid works HARD.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 8:39 PM

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Walk-ons?  You'll be running the oppositions plays week in and week out. The greatest value to us is we don't care whether you get hurt. Our first teams are going to pound on you like you are their worst enemies. Like what you hear so far? Any of you wanna run home to momma? Now's your chance. Bo, they're all yours.
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Posted: 6/10/2014 9:30 PM

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TEAM is the whole lot.  Walk ons are the key to how good the TEAM will be.  They push the starters to improve.  Showy will play this year and he will play critical minutes for Bo imho.  He is a very good player!

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Posted: 6/10/2014 9:39 PM

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I like how folks rag on the walk ons then when they are Jr/Sr they get PT...a few mins only sometimes but I would trade that for being on a D2/D3 team any day.

Plus you are still a bballer at UW...it has its perks socially and in the workforce afterwards.  ;-)

I respect kids that make this choice over a full ride to a mid-major.  just my 2 cents
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Posted: 6/11/2014 2:19 AM

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You make it sound like they're getting ready to report to basic training....lol. Which one of our starters will be doing this "pounding" you speak of? That's not even remotely close to how they play. The playing time could be better elsewhere, but if you're realistic about your future after college basketball then what better life experience could you ask for than getting to play under Bo Ryan for 4 or 5 years and earning a degree from the UW. I would love to be able to sit on the bench, make these road trips, listen in on all the locker room chalk talk, and experience March Madness all the while wearing the UW uniform. What a thrill that must be!

Let's not forget, they also get access to the practice facilities, academic support staff, and now the unlimited meal program as well. All your road trips are free, and the friendships you make are to potential future NBA players. That's a whole new access in and of itself, quite possibly. I can only imagine the connections to any and all supporters of the basketball program you would be subject to upon graduation as well. This is an opportunity of a lifetime, it's only drawback is that you probably sacrifice playing time. It just depends on what your goals are for your college career i suppose.
BadgerNCarolina wrote: Walk-ons?  You'll be running the oppositions plays week in and week out. The greatest value to us is we don't care whether you get hurt. Our first teams are going to pound on you like you are their worst enemies. Like what you hear so far? Any of you wanna run home to momma? Now's your chance. Bo, they're all yours.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 11:22 AM

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It wasn't too long ago that most walk ons were basically D3 level talent who preferred the educational advantages of a Big Ten level school over the chance to play at a small school.  It usually wasn't a matter of having turned down a scholarship.   As the Wisconsin program evolved under Ryan, it has been able to attract players who otherwise could have earned scholarships elsewhere.  It takes a kid who's circumstances at home are such that paying for school isn't a huge hardship or who have a realistic shot at eventually earning one.

Experiencing being part of a big time program has it's appeal to many.  But many kids value being able to compete on the field/court even if it is at a less glamorous level.
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Posted: 6/11/2014 11:37 AM

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TEAM is the whole lot.  Walk ons are the key to how good the TEAM will be.  They push the starters to improve.  Showy will play this year and he will play critical minutes for Bo imho.  He is a very good player!

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Not on the team we have next year. That team will be too talented. I could see him getting 5-10 min when Gasser and Jackson graduate. I think Jordan Hill is close to getting reserve minutes when 1-2 of our starters need a blow and Koenig is already in the game


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Posted: 6/11/2014 1:02 PM

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Activebadger wrote:


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TEAM is the whole lot.  Walk ons are the key to how good the TEAM will be.  They push the starters to improve.  Showy will play this year and he will play critical minutes for Bo imho.  He is a very good player!

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Not on the team we have next year. That team will be too talented. I could see him getting 5-10 min when Gasser and Jackson graduate. I think Jordan Hill is close to getting reserve minutes when 1-2 of our starters need a blow and Koenig is already in the game
That may be true but just to keep this in the context of the discussion on this thread - you do realize that Showalter had many more offers/recruiting attention and was much higher rated coming out HS than Hill. Plus he played a lot more as a freshmen than Hill did.

We have also been referencing Showalter as a walkon but I think there is a high probability that he is on scholarship for the remainder of his time at UW
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Posted: 6/11/2014 2:51 PM

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Right now Showalter is as much of a mystery as Dukan was a year ago.  If this year's team were not as deep as it is going to be, I suspect he'd have a good shot at being a rotation player.  As is, he could end up competing with Happ and Brown for the eighth spot in the rotation, and if we go with a traditional lineup (only two guards) most of the time, that doesn't leave much time for any fourth guard this year, but if he is the fourth guard this year, that means he starts out next year as our second guard, i.e., a starter as a junior like many Badgers before him.  Time will tell, but that could be the way it plays out.

Schlundt is even more of a mystery, but he could be the next Showalter a little bit down the road.  Given that there is a sort of uncertainty principle surrounding how good any given high school player will be several years down the road, there is a chance, however small, that the Gasser effect could end up applying to Schlundt, and he could turn out to be quite a bit better than what many are currently giving him credit for.  He could turn out to be the kind of player who, if he had gone to UW Milwaukee or Green Bay, might have torched us for four or five 3-pointers in several games against us.  Probably not ever a starter here like he might very well have been at Milwaukee or Green Bay, but conceivably a good 6' 5" three-point shooter to have coming off the bench when needed.

A footnote, as it stands right now, about half our team in 2015 will be shooting guards: Showalter, Hill, Dearring, and Pritzl (plus Smith, Shlundt, and Ferris).  Out of such a large group, someone is going to step forward and be a good complement to Koenig.

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Posted: 6/11/2014 8:07 PM

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Funny how Bo gave Showy more minutes as a freshman than most posters are going to allow him this year and that is after a year of red shirting and working his butt off.  He will not only be getting minutes but he will be getting critical minutes.

Bo Trusts and Knows Showy!

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Posted: 6/12/2014 10:21 AM

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badgerwatcher wrote:

Funny how Bo gave Showy more minutes as a freshman than most posters are going to allow him this year and that is after a year of red shirting and working his butt off.  He will not only be getting minutes but he will be getting critical minutes.

Bo Trusts and Knows Showy!

I am in the group that thinks Showalter is or will be, at the very least, a decent scholarship worthy player, maybe even good enough to beat out all the other shooting guards we'll have in 2015 and start as a junior if he is improved like Brust and Jackson were as juniors.  The thing about this year is that even though Showalter should be significantly better than he was as a true freshman, he'll be in essentially the same situation in the rotation, i.e., the fourth guard, and maybe ninth or so overall, which would suggest similar minutes.  Two years ago he was behind Brust as a first time starter and two very raw players in Jackson and Marshall.  This year it will be Gasser as a fourth year starter, Jackson as a third year starter, and Koenig as a sophomore.  As much better as Showalter might be, the three guards ahead of him are similarly better, leaving him in essentially the same spot as two years ago even if he beats out Dearring and Hill and ends up as our fourth guard. 

Speaking of Dearring and Hill, it's not inconceivable that Hill, a sophomore, and Dearring, a redshirt freshman, could be roughly as good at the start of the season as Jackson, a sophomore, and Marshall, a redshirt freshman, were at the start of the season two years ago, except Hill and Dearring might end up as our fifth and sixth guards this year while Jackson and Marshall ended up as our second and third guards two years ago.  That's how much deeper we are at guard this year.  Only Brust, a junior, was ahead of Jackson and Marshall two years ago.  Gasser, a senior, Jackson, a senior, Koenig, a rising star, and Showalter could all be ahead Hill and Dearring this year. 

And then there's Schlundt.  He could maybe be as good as Showalter was as a true freshman, except he'll be our seventh or eighth guard instead of our fourth guard like Showalter was as a walkon freshman.  And then there's Ferris, and, last but not least, Smith.  Smith, who had a scholarship offer from St. Louis, will probably be good enough as a fourth year player so that he would have seen playing time on some of our past teams.  He could be better than Showalter was as a true freshman playing as our #4 guard.  We could have seven guards who are better than Showalter was two years ago.  That is why Showalter's minutes were inflated two years ago, and will be diminished this year, with the net result being that they could end up about the same even though he will be a better player.

Add in that Kaminsky, Dekker, and Hayes should be significantly better than Berggren, Bruesewitz, and Evans were, and this says volumes about this year's team when comparing it to a team that was just two games out of first two years ago playing with a much thinner, weaker, and less experienced guard group.  Kaminsky could be player of the year in the Big Ten, Dekker could be first team all-Big Ten, and Hayes could be our next Tucker (and Happ could be our next Hayes), and all of that on top of a guard group that is light years better than two years ago.

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Posted: 6/12/2014 10:37 AM

Showalter future PT 


IMHO, the most important factor for Showalter getting minutes going forward will be improved ball handling.
IF able, watch the minutes he played at Illinois in the second half of the game in 2013. His play handling/bringing the ball up the court in those few minutes was.............scary.

Guessing he busting his hump to improve: Ball handling, shooting, etc.; so, NOT going to bet against him getting PT.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:57 AM

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Showalter is going to have the opportunity to compete for minutes, and one would certainly expect him to be better after a redshirt year. That said, the group of guards that he'll be competing with for playing time is going to be significantly better than the group he was competing against in his freshman year. Not even close. That was the low water mark for guards during the Ryan era and is unlikely to be approached in the coming years unless three or four players we expect to have available become unavailable for whatever reason.

In Showalter's frosh year, first year starter Brust played 34 min a game at the 2. When he came out the options were

a) True frosh Jackson at the 1 and Showalter at the 2
b) Redshirt frosh Marshall at the 1 and Showalter at the 2
c) both Jackson and Marshall in the game
d) Jordan Smith, Dan Fahey or JD Wise in the game.

(Think about that for a minute and marvel at Bo's ability to go 12-6 in conference play.)

In our system, guards don't just compete against guards for minutes, as Bo is going to put his top 5 players on the floor. This coming year Jordan Hill is going to be fighting for the fourth guard spot, and I think he is by far the most likely candidate for that role this year. If we were playing a three guard lineup, he'd be in line for 20 min/game, but we have our best front court probably in the history of Wisconsin basketball. Thus, Hill might get 5-6 min per game. If redshirt frosh Jordan Hill was taken via time machine back two years, he would have been playing at least 30 min per game at the pg. Maybe not right away, but once GM faltered, he would have easily won that spot.

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Posted: 7/19/2014 8:16 AM

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betrage wrote: You make it sound like they're getting ready to report to basic training....lol. Which one of our starters will be doing this "pounding" you speak of? That's not even remotely close to how they play. The playing time could be better elsewhere, but if you're realistic about your future after college basketball then what better life experience could you ask for than getting to play under Bo Ryan for 4 or 5 years and earning a degree from the UW. I would love to be able to sit on the bench, make these road trips, listen in on all the locker room chalk talk, and experience March Madness all the while wearing the UW uniform. What a thrill that must be!

Let's not forget, they also get access to the practice facilities, academic support staff, and now the unlimited meal program as well. All your road trips are free, and the friendships you make are to potential future NBA players. That's a whole new access in and of itself, quite possibly. I can only imagine the connections to any and all supporters of the basketball program you would be subject to upon graduation as well. This is an opportunity of a lifetime, it's only drawback is that you probably sacrifice playing time. It just depends on what your goals are for your college career i suppose.
BadgerNCarolina wrote: Walk-ons?  You'll be running the oppositions plays week in and week out. The greatest value to us is we don't care whether you get hurt. Our first teams are going to pound on you like you are their worst enemies. Like what you hear so far? Any of you wanna run home to momma? Now's your chance. Bo, they're all yours.
Sorry man - just saw this one and had to reply.  I wasn't actually saying that, I was quoting one of the best sports movies of all time...
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Posted: 7/19/2014 2:25 PM

Re: Matt Ferris officially a walk on 



BadgerNCarolina wrote:
betrage wrote: You make it sound like they're getting ready to report to basic training....lol. Which one of our starters will be doing this "pounding" you speak of? That's not even remotely close to how they play. The playing time could be better elsewhere, but if you're realistic about your future after college basketball then what better life experience could you ask for than getting to play under Bo Ryan for 4 or 5 years and earning a degree from the UW. I would love to be able to sit on the bench, make these road trips, listen in on all the locker room chalk talk, and experience March Madness all the while wearing the UW uniform. What a thrill that must be!

Let's not forget, they also get access to the practice facilities, academic support staff, and now the unlimited meal program as well. All your road trips are free, and the friendships you make are to potential future NBA players. That's a whole new access in and of itself, quite possibly. I can only imagine the connections to any and all supporters of the basketball program you would be subject to upon graduation as well. This is an opportunity of a lifetime, it's only drawback is that you probably sacrifice playing time. It just depends on what your goals are for your college career i suppose.
BadgerNCarolina wrote: Walk-ons?  You'll be running the oppositions plays week in and week out. The greatest value to us is we don't care whether you get hurt. Our first teams are going to pound on you like you are their worst enemies. Like what you hear so far? Any of you wanna run home to momma? Now's your chance. Bo, they're all yours.
Sorry man - just saw this one and had to reply.  I wasn't actually saying that, I was quoting one of the best sports movies of all time...
Oops!  Putting the words in quotes and citing the source will take care of those potential misunderstandings. biggrin  BTW: what was the movie?
Ecclesiastes 10:2

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Posted: 7/19/2014 2:46 PM

Re: Matt Ferris officially a walk on 



JWE44 wrote:
BadgerNCarolina wrote:
betrage wrote: You make it sound like they're getting ready to report to basic training....lol. Which one of our starters will be doing this "pounding" you speak of? That's not even remotely close to how they play. The playing time could be better elsewhere, but if you're realistic about your future after college basketball then what better life experience could you ask for than getting to play under Bo Ryan for 4 or 5 years and earning a degree from the UW. I would love to be able to sit on the bench, make these road trips, listen in on all the locker room chalk talk, and experience March Madness all the while wearing the UW uniform. What a thrill that must be!

Let's not forget, they also get access to the practice facilities, academic support staff, and now the unlimited meal program as well. All your road trips are free, and the friendships you make are to potential future NBA players. That's a whole new access in and of itself, quite possibly. I can only imagine the connections to any and all supporters of the basketball program you would be subject to upon graduation as well. This is an opportunity of a lifetime, it's only drawback is that you probably sacrifice playing time. It just depends on what your goals are for your college career i suppose.
BadgerNCarolina wrote: Walk-ons?  You'll be running the oppositions plays week in and week out. The greatest value to us is we don't care whether you get hurt. Our first teams are going to pound on you like you are their worst enemies. Like what you hear so far? Any of you wanna run home to momma? Now's your chance. Bo, they're all yours.
Sorry man - just saw this one and had to reply.  I wasn't actually saying that, I was quoting one of the best sports movies of all time...
Oops!  Putting the words in quotes and citing the source will take care of those potential misunderstandings. biggrin  BTW: what was the movie?
Rudy! :)  One of the assistants gave this speech to the 20 or so players who were trying out to be part of the walk-on/scout team.  I MAY have changed the 'Bo' part, otherwise, I think it's verbatim.
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