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Posted: 6/3/2014 12:08 AM

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Posted: 6/3/2014 7:18 AM

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He and Watson both look good in red and white!biggrin
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Posted: 6/3/2014 7:28 AM

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I wouldn't say he is explosive but moves his feet pretty well. I'd like to see him learn to block shots with his left hand rather than his right. He would be foul prone at the next level. Looks like the bb instincts are solid.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 7:55 PM

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tmoney is going on record right now and say this cat will be playing for the badgers. he is a lock!
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Posted: 6/3/2014 8:36 PM

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He is  visiting Iowa later this month. Iowa is going after him hard.
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Posted: 6/3/2014 10:41 PM

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"He wants to play for a team that is better than Wisconsin"

Projected quote from Aaron White on the prospect of landing this kid.   biggrin 
gfhhawken wrote:
He is  visiting Iowa later this month. Iowa is going after him hard.

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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:39 AM

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Has Wisconsin written all over him. Plays like one of the many bigs that Bo has coached here.

Then again so does Ellenson
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Posted: 6/5/2014 10:59 AM

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HaveGunWillTuttle wrote: Video from last weekend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...KgUvrH-YQdPQhgQ
It appeared as though everyone on the floor other than him was ~6'4" or less, and he was able to block shots without jumping. Kinda like one of us guarding little nephews. Really tough to get a sense for how he plays against good competition from that video.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:26 PM

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Seems like an early Illini lean.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:28 PM

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not the case at all. had some great things to say abouit wisconsin and bo. came to a game last year on his own dime. was an unofficial visit.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 1:02 AM

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tmoneylovesguns wrote: not the case at all. had some great things to say abouit wisconsin and bo. came to a game last year on his own dime. was an unofficial visit.
And he is taking an unofficial to Illinois this coming weekend. Alot of players including Aaron Jordan, Michael Finke, Maverick Morgan, Nnanna Egwu, Myke Henry, Mike Shaw, and Joseph Bertrand had good things to say about Wisconsin.

You know the common denominator among these players? Illinois wanted them! They all ended up at Illinois. Any player from Illinois that the Illini want, Wisconsin won't get. When was the last player you guys got that we really wanted?

The reason you got guys like Brust, Kaminsky, Taylor, Marshall, Dukan, Perry, Williams, McGee, Tucker and Happ is because the Illini did not want them and never offered. You guys have done ok finding diamonds in the rough but anybody that we want in state you aren't getting. Plain and simple. 3 out of 9 since 2002 isn't bad so far I guess. Hard to say you have had a bunch of success with Illinois guys.

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Posted: 6/6/2014 2:51 AM

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The reason you got guys like Brust, Kaminsky, Taylor, Marshall, Dukan, Perry, Williams, McGee, Tucker and Happ is because the Illini did not want them and never offered. You guys have done ok finding diamonds in the rough but anybody that we want in state you aren't getting. Plain and simple. 3 out of 9 since 2002 isn't bad so far I guess. Hard to say you have had a bunch of success with Illinois guys.
DeAaron Williams and Mark Vershaw had Illini offers. Are you telling me Illinois wouldn't want Vershaw, Brust, Kaminsky, Dukan, Tucker and Happ? I would seriously question that. Maybe not Dukan as he is a "developmental" guy and Illinois isn't known for developing guys very well. Bo puts the pieces in the puzzle together. Some of the kids from Illinois have difficulty staying in school academically or have difficulty obeying the law. Two of them (Taylor & McGee) never got past the first Summer before the Fall semester started! Perry just didn't have B1G game and Williams just never really adjusted to school or the system although he was a tremendous athlete.

You know, though, I'll take the careers of Brust, Kaminsky, Tucker....and the rotation play of Dukan his last two years. I think Happ will haunt you during his time at Wisconsin. So....we're talking about who Wisconsin got out of the state of Illinois. Now, let's talk about who Illinois has recruited out of Wisconsin and landed, OK? I can't remember the last one. They've reached out and offered several kids. I think they're in on Stone and Ellenson....will they get 'em with Groce' magic? Only reason Illinois didn't get in on Happ is because he committed to Wisconsin early.

We don't mind picking up the underrated guys from Illinois now and then. Most of them have fit in and contributed.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 3:07 AM

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cameraguy wrote:
DWILL05 wrote:

The reason you got guys like Brust, Kaminsky, Taylor, Marshall, Dukan, Perry, Williams, McGee, Tucker and Happ is because the Illini did not want them and never offered. You guys have done ok finding diamonds in the rough but anybody that we want in state you aren't getting. Plain and simple. 3 out of 9 since 2002 isn't bad so far I guess. Hard to say you have had a bunch of success with Illinois guys.
DeAaron Williams and Mark Vershaw had Illini offers. Are you telling me Illinois wouldn't want Vershaw, Brust, Kaminsky, Dukan, Tucker and Happ? I would seriously question that. Maybe not Dukan as he is a "developmental" guy and Illinois isn't known for developing guys very well. Bo puts the pieces in the puzzle together. Some of the kids from Illinois have difficulty staying in school academically or have difficulty obeying the law. Two of them (Taylor & McGee) never got past the first Summer before the Fall semester started! Perry just didn't have B1G game and Williams just never really adjusted to school or the system although he was a tremendous athlete.

You know, though, I'll take the careers of Brust, Kaminsky, Tucker....and the rotation play of Dukan his last two years. I think Happ will haunt you during his time at Wisconsin. So....we're talking about who Wisconsin got out of the state of Illinois. Now, let's talk about who Illinois has recruited out of Wisconsin and landed, OK? I can't remember the last one. They've reached out and offered several kids. I think they're in on Stone and Ellenson....will they get 'em with Groce' magic? Only reason Illinois didn't get in on Happ is because he committed to Wisconsin early.

We don't mind picking up the underrated guys from Illinois now and then. Most of them have fit in and contributed.
Dude you really suck at life lol. clicky clicky click . You type so much yet never have any relevant observations. No wonder you invaded the Illini board they got sick of you here. My god you type so so much I would think occasionally you would stumble upon a relevant topic or idea but no! You truelly never do! All those sentances and paragraphs yet you just came to the same conclusion as me. Brust, Kaminsky, and Tucker are the only Illinois preps that you guys have had success with. Just what I said. I mean why would Illinois recruit Wisconsin when they generally have no players. For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.

You guys have had some significant in state players the last few years but you have still not landed them. What say you about that. I bet you don't land Stone, Ellenson, Nick Nosko lol so basically you are talking out your ass. You guys can't land top players anywhere. Not even your own state.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 5:04 AM

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DWILL05 wrote:
Dude you really suck at life lol. clicky clicky click . You type so much yet never have any relevant observations. No wonder you invaded the Illini board they got sick of you here. My god you type so so much I would think occasionally you would stumble upon a relevant topic or idea but no! You truelly never do! All those sentances and paragraphs yet you just came to the same conclusion as me. Brust, Kaminsky, and Tucker are the only Illinois preps that you guys have had success with. Just what I said. I mean why would Illinois recruit Wisconsin when they generally have no players. For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.

You guys have had some significant in state players the last few years but you have still not landed them. What say you about that. I bet you don't land Stone, Ellenson, Nick Nosko lol so basically you are talking out your ass. You guys can't land top players anywhere. Not even your own state.
No...I just frame my argument differently than you and fill in what you forget to put in your post. Mark Vershaw was a very good player, and multi-year starter, for Bennett and his Final Four team. You left him out among players that had success at UW. He was an 1,000 point scorer. Don't forget Travon Davis' Sr. year for the 2001-2002 team in which he guided them to a conference title. Bo got a lot out of that Illinois boy.

Apparently, we can't land a guy like Sam Dekker....top-10 guy. Butch, burger boy. Stiemsma, top-50 and NBA vet. Top-5 draft pick, Devin Harris. Nigel Hayes, B1G 6th man of the year and 2nd in voting for Frosh of the year in the B1G after lottery pick Vonleh. Koenig, who we beat out UNC and Duke over. Others I could mention. Wisconsin recruits better than it's given credit for. Hayes is better than any Illinois Frosh as is Koenig. Jury's out on the three others. Hard to get PT on a Final Four team as a true Frosh.

Illinois has offered Stone, offered Looney last year, were after Noskowiak this year (UW didn't even recruit NN)....The State of Wisconsin has talent that not only Illinois wants but guys who the blue bloods are after. I don't think Illinois will get any Wisconsin guys. And Brevin Pritzl is ranked #69....better than non-100 Aaron Jordan eek Oh my! I guess we'll just have to wait for both teams recruits to get to their respective schools and see how it all plays out on the basketball court!! tongue

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Posted: 6/6/2014 6:24 AM

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DWILL05 wrote:
cameraguy wrote:
DWILL05 wrote:

The reason you got guys like Brust, Kaminsky, Taylor, Marshall, Dukan, Perry, Williams, McGee, Tucker and Happ is because the Illini did not want them and never offered. You guys have done ok finding diamonds in the rough but anybody that we want in state you aren't getting. Plain and simple. 3 out of 9 since 2002 isn't bad so far I guess. Hard to say you have had a bunch of success with Illinois guys.
DeAaron Williams and Mark Vershaw had Illini offers. Are you telling me Illinois wouldn't want Vershaw, Brust, Kaminsky, Dukan, Tucker and Happ? I would seriously question that. Maybe not Dukan as he is a "developmental" guy and Illinois isn't known for developing guys very well. Bo puts the pieces in the puzzle together. Some of the kids from Illinois have difficulty staying in school academically or have difficulty obeying the law. Two of them (Taylor & McGee) never got past the first Summer before the Fall semester started! Perry just didn't have B1G game and Williams just never really adjusted to school or the system although he was a tremendous athlete.

You know, though, I'll take the careers of Brust, Kaminsky, Tucker....and the rotation play of Dukan his last two years. I think Happ will haunt you during his time at Wisconsin. So....we're talking about who Wisconsin got out of the state of Illinois. Now, let's talk about who Illinois has recruited out of Wisconsin and landed, OK? I can't remember the last one. They've reached out and offered several kids. I think they're in on Stone and Ellenson....will they get 'em with Groce' magic? Only reason Illinois didn't get in on Happ is because he committed to Wisconsin early.

We don't mind picking up the underrated guys from Illinois now and then. Most of them have fit in and contributed.
Dude you really suck at life lol. clicky clicky click . You type so much yet never have any relevant observations. No wonder you invaded the Illini board they got sick of you here. My god you type so so much I would think occasionally you would stumble upon a relevant topic or idea but no! You truelly never do! All those sentances and paragraphs yet you just came to the same conclusion as me. Brust, Kaminsky, and Tucker are the only Illinois preps that you guys have had success with. Just what I said. I mean why would Illinois recruit Wisconsin when they generally have no players. For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.

You guys have had some significant in state players the last few years but you have still not landed them. What say you about that. I bet you don't land Stone, Ellenson, Nick Nosko lol so basically you are talking out your ass. You guys can't land top players anywhere. Not even your own state.
Brian Butch, Sam Dekker and Bronson Koenig say hello.  Enjoy your recruiting victories because lately that's all Illinois basketball has had to brag about.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 7:24 AM

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DWILL05 wrote:
 For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.


I'm not sure you had any credibility to begin with, but you lose any chance of it right here...pure ignorance.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 9:53 AM

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I think it will come down to the two I's either Iowa or Illinois for hos services.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 9:55 AM

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BigTenwatcher wrote: Has Wisconsin written all over him. Plays like one of the many bigs that Bo has coached here.

Then again so does Ellenson
Completely agree. He would fit in Bo's system perfectly. Made for the swing IMO.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:09 PM

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phenom3 wrote:
BigTenwatcher wrote: Has Wisconsin written all over him. Plays like one of the many bigs that Bo has coached here.

Then again so does Ellenson
Completely agree. He would fit in Bo's system perfectly. Made for the swing IMO.
And when was the last time the "swing" was the principle offense for UW  ?  rolleyes
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:27 PM

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DWILL05 wrote:
tmoneylovesguns wrote: not the case at all. had some great things to say abouit wisconsin and bo. came to a game last year on his own dime. was an unofficial visit.
And he is taking an unofficial to Illinois this coming weekend. Alot of players including Aaron Jordan, Michael Finke, Maverick Morgan, Nnanna Egwu, Myke Henry, Mike Shaw, and Joseph Bertrand had good things to say about Wisconsin.

You know the common denominator among these players? Illinois wanted them! They all ended up at Illinois. Any player from Illinois that the Illini want, Wisconsin won't get. When was the last player you guys got that we really wanted?

The reason you got guys like Brust, Kaminsky, Taylor, Marshall, Dukan, Perry, Williams, McGee, Tucker and Happ is because the Illini did not want them and never offered. You guys have done ok finding diamonds in the rough but anybody that we want in state you aren't getting. Plain and simple. 3 out of 9 since 2002 isn't bad so far I guess. Hard to say you have had a bunch of success with Illinois guys.
Just to clarify... we're continually dominating your program using Illinois players that you could have had (in your own words), but didn't want. Got it.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:32 PM

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cameraguy wrote:
DWILL05 wrote:

The reason you got guys like Brust, Kaminsky, Taylor, Marshall, Dukan, Perry, Williams, McGee, Tucker and Happ is because the Illini did not want them and never offered. You guys have done ok finding diamonds in the rough but anybody that we want in state you aren't getting. Plain and simple. 3 out of 9 since 2002 isn't bad so far I guess. Hard to say you have had a bunch of success with Illinois guys.
DeAaron Williams and Mark Vershaw had Illini offers. Are you telling me Illinois wouldn't want Vershaw, Brust, Kaminsky, Dukan, Tucker and Happ? I would seriously question that. Maybe not Dukan as he is a "developmental" guy and Illinois isn't known for developing guys very well. Bo puts the pieces in the puzzle together. Some of the kids from Illinois have difficulty staying in school academically or have difficulty obeying the law. Two of them (Taylor & McGee) never got past the first Summer before the Fall semester started! Perry just didn't have B1G game and Williams just never really adjusted to school or the system although he was a tremendous athlete.

You know, though, I'll take the careers of Brust, Kaminsky, Tucker....and the rotation play of Dukan his last two years. I think Happ will haunt you during his time at Wisconsin. So....we're talking about who Wisconsin got out of the state of Illinois. Now, let's talk about who Illinois has recruited out of Wisconsin and landed, OK? I can't remember the last one. They've reached out and offered several kids. I think they're in on Stone and Ellenson....will they get 'em with Groce' magic? Only reason Illinois didn't get in on Happ is because he committed to Wisconsin early.

We don't mind picking up the underrated guys from Illinois now and then. Most of them have fit in and contributed.
Dude you really suck at life lol. clicky clicky click . You type so much yet never have any relevant observations. No wonder you invaded the Illini board they got sick of you here. My god you type so so much I would think occasionally you would stumble upon a relevant topic or idea but no! You truelly never do! All those sentances and paragraphs yet you just came to the same conclusion as me. Brust, Kaminsky, and Tucker are the only Illinois preps that you guys have had success with. Just what I said. I mean why would Illinois recruit Wisconsin when they generally have no players. For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.

You guys have had some significant in state players the last few years but you have still not landed them. What say you about that. I bet you don't land Stone, Ellenson, Nick Nosko lol so basically you are talking out your ass. You guys can't land top players anywhere. Not even your own state.

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This is hilarious!!!

Ok, you take the guys you want and we will continue to kick your ass year after year and laugh while you go through coach after coach after coach:-)


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Posted: 6/6/2014 1:07 PM

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And yet, the Badgers keep on winning while the Illini underachieve.  Keep "winning" the recruiting battles in June and July, Bo and Company will keep winning the battles in December through March.

By the way, I was wondering when the last time Illinois actually received a commitment from one of the premier players in their own state.  Here is what I found when I looked back at Scout's Top 50 for the past 10 years:

2014
Jahlil Okafor (Duke)
Cliff Alexander (Kansas)
Tyler Ulis (Kentucky)
Keita Bates-Diop (Ohio State)

2013
Jabari Parker (Duke)

2012
No prospects in Top 50 from Illinois

2011
Anthony Davis (Kentucky)
Wayne Blackshear (Louisville)

2010
Meyers Leonard (Illinois)
Jereme Richmond (Illinois)

2009
No prospects in Top 50 from Illinois

2008
Iman Shumpert (Georgia Tech)
Michael Dunigan (Oregon)

2007
Derrick Rose (Memphis)
Mac Koshwal (DePaul)

2006
Sherron Collins (Kansas)
Jon Scheyer (Duke)
Brian Carlwell (Illinois)

2005
Julian Wright (Kansas)
Bobby Frasor (North Carolina)

So 3 for 18...not exactly building a wall around the state.  2010 was a magical year!  I was actually surprised that so few of the Top 50 over a 10-year stretch were out of Illinois.  This CERTAINLY makes the bolded statement below look ridiculous.  blah2

DWILL05 wrote:

Dude you really suck at life lol. clicky clicky click . You type so much yet never have any relevant observations. No wonder you invaded the Illini board they got sick of you here. My god you type so so much I would think occasionally you would stumble upon a relevant topic or idea but no! You truelly never do! All those sentances and paragraphs yet you just came to the same conclusion as me. Brust, Kaminsky, and Tucker are the only Illinois preps that you guys have had success with. Just what I said. I mean why would Illinois recruit Wisconsin when they generally have no players. For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.

You guys have had some significant in state players the last few years but you have still not landed them. What say you about that. I bet you don't land Stone, Ellenson, Nick Nosko lol so basically you are talking out your ass. You guys can't land top players anywhere. Not even your own state.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 1:40 PM

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DWill is officially property of the BadgerNation board due to continually being owned by said BadgerNation...
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Posted: 6/8/2014 2:14 AM

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janderson182 wrote: And yet, the Badgers keep on winning while the Illini underachieve.  Keep "winning" the recruiting battles in June and July, Bo and Company will keep winning the battles in December through March.

By the way, I was wondering when the last time Illinois actually received a commitment from one of the premier players in their own state.  Here is what I found when I looked back at Scout's Top 50 for the past 10 years:

2014
Jahlil Okafor (Duke)
Cliff Alexander (Kansas)
Tyler Ulis (Kentucky)
Keita Bates-Diop (Ohio State)

2013
Jabari Parker (Duke)

2012
No prospects in Top 50 from Illinois

2011
Anthony Davis (Kentucky)
Wayne Blackshear (Louisville)

2010
Meyers Leonard (Illinois)
Jereme Richmond (Illinois)

2009
No prospects in Top 50 from Illinois

2008
Iman Shumpert (Georgia Tech)
Michael Dunigan (Oregon)

2007
Derrick Rose (Memphis)
Mac Koshwal (DePaul)

2006
Sherron Collins (Kansas)
Jon Scheyer (Duke)
Brian Carlwell (Illinois)

2005
Julian Wright (Kansas)
Bobby Frasor (North Carolina)

So 3 for 18...not exactly building a wall around the state.  2010 was a magical year!  I was actually surprised that so few of the Top 50 over a 10-year stretch were out of Illinois.  This CERTAINLY makes the bolded statement below look ridiculous.  blah2

DWILL05 wrote:

Dude you really suck at life lol. clicky clicky click . You type so much yet never have any relevant observations. No wonder you invaded the Illini board they got sick of you here. My god you type so so much I would think occasionally you would stumble upon a relevant topic or idea but no! You truelly never do! All those sentances and paragraphs yet you just came to the same conclusion as me. Brust, Kaminsky, and Tucker are the only Illinois preps that you guys have had success with. Just what I said. I mean why would Illinois recruit Wisconsin when they generally have no players. For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.

You guys have had some significant in state players the last few years but you have still not landed them. What say you about that. I bet you don't land Stone, Ellenson, Nick Nosko lol so basically you are talking out your ass. You guys can't land top players anywhere. Not even your own state.
Ok I guess you first. 

Wisconsin top 100:

2014
Kevon Looney(UCLA)
Sandy Cohen(Marquette)

2013
Deonte Burton(Marquette)
Matt Thomas(Iowa State)
Duane Wilson(Marquette)
Luke Fischer(Indiana)

2012
Sam Dekker(Wisconsin)
JP Tokoto(UNC)

2011
None

2010
Vander Blue(Marquette)

2009
None

2008
Korie Lucious(Mighigan St.)

2007
Keaton Nankivil(Wisconsin)

2006
Jerry Smith(Louisville)
Trevon Hughes(Wisconsin)

2005
Marcus Landry(Wisconsin)
Wes Matthews(Marquette)

Obviously my statement was hyperbolic and I would assume anyone with any sense could see that. So Wisconsin has had 15 top 100 players in the same time period that Illinois has had 18 top 50 players. By the way Kendrick Nunn was 52 so barely missed among others. In case you didn't know Illinois had 42 Division 1 college basketball recruits in the class of 2014. How many did Wisconsin have? I am sure you don't know but I doubt it is even a quarter of that. The simple fact of the matter is that Illinois high school basketball is much better and much more competitive than Wisconsin ball. 

The facts are that the state of Wisconsin produces very little talent. The state is at a high point for talent right now however Wisconsin from 2008-2014 have landed 1 out of 10 top 100 players from there own state. Those are the facts. They have done well with under the radar players from Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Indiana but they do not land very much top line talent even in their own state. 

Your main problem here is that you are thinking coach Groce will do as Weber did. However in just two recruiting classes Groce received commits from #52 Nunn, #72 Hill, #50 Black, # 38Williams, #77 Jordan, and #38 Snider who reneged on signing day. Not to mention He has brought in transfers Rice, Cosby, and Starks who are proven commodities and he is in on about a dozen more top 100 players in the 2015 and 2016 classes. He will land several more highly rated guys.

The one constant is that Illinois will continue to produce highly rated players while Wisconsin alot of years is barren of talent. I know Bo is good and all but most of his tenure occured in a historrically bad to average BIG 10. For most of his tenure Michigan, Indiana, Iowa,Minnesota, and Illinois were bad to average. Michigan State, Wisconsin,  and Ohio State have been the only consistent teams in conference during the Bo Ryan era. Just look at the BIG 10 ACC challenge results. Look at NBA draft picks in this time period the BIG ranks 5th among power conferences in draft picks. The BIG 10 was really bad to average for most of the 2001-2012. We have no champion since 2000 and have a bunch of different teams that sprang up for a year here and a year there(Illini 2005, OSU 2007). I respect Bo Ryan for what he has accomplished but until this years final four it was alot of in conference accomplishments in a down BIG 10.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 2:55 AM

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See us as 4 out of 9 as we never offered Lucious, Fischer, Burton, Wilson, and Cohen.  Not sure if we offered Thomas.  If so, it was late.  Koenig and him wouldn't play together.  We genuinely lost Looney, Tokato, Matthews.  Smith was one of three guards with offers for two-Bohannon, Hughes, and Smith.  I like a lot how that worked out.

Don't know that we lost Blue as much as he was just, well...lost.  Most of those guys on that list never stood a chance of an offer to UW.

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Posted: 6/8/2014 3:04 AM

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EricTheeRed wrote:
DWILL05 wrote:
tmoneylovesguns wrote: not the case at all. had some great things to say abouit wisconsin and bo. came to a game last year on his own dime. was an unofficial visit.
And he is taking an unofficial to Illinois this coming weekend. Alot of players including Aaron Jordan, Michael Finke, Maverick Morgan, Nnanna Egwu, Myke Henry, Mike Shaw, and Joseph Bertrand had good things to say about Wisconsin.

You know the common denominator among these players? Illinois wanted them! They all ended up at Illinois. Any player from Illinois that the Illini want, Wisconsin won't get. When was the last player you guys got that we really wanted?

The reason you got guys like Brust, Kaminsky, Taylor, Marshall, Dukan, Perry, Williams, McGee, Tucker and Happ is because the Illini did not want them and never offered. You guys have done ok finding diamonds in the rough but anybody that we want in state you aren't getting. Plain and simple. 3 out of 9 since 2002 isn't bad so far I guess. Hard to say you have had a bunch of success with Illinois guys.
Just to clarify... we're continually dominating your program using Illinois players that you could have had (in your own words), but didn't want. Got it.
Just to clarify what would you consider dominating our program? I mean as a program Illinois holds the 109-75 edge. I guess that may be considered dominating. How bout BIG 10 titles since 1930? 6 for Wisconsin and 14 for Illinois. How bout top 5 finishes in the BIG 10 since 1930? 34 for Wisconsin and 60 for Illinois. How bout NCAA tournament bids since 1930? 20 for Wisconsin and 30 for Illinois. OK so basically what you are saying is that Wisconsin has "dominated" Illinois for the past 8 years.

It is a good thing you have a short memory because Wisconsins past history is pretty abismal. Just so you know Bruce Weber is no longer at Illinois so you can be sure that you won't be "dominating" us for long. How did you do against Bill Self players? Lon Krueger players? Lou Henson players? Yea that's what I thought. Convenient to only consider the last half dozen or so years for a program that has been around for 100. I mean yes in the last 8 years Wisconsin's conference record is 101-41 while the Illini's is 65-77. This however is one of the worst 8 year stretches in program history. The previous 8 years before shows Wisconsin with a 72-40 record and Illinois with a 85-27 record. 

So anyone can clearly see how things can change quite a bit in just a few years. I am happy for you guys as you are in the midst of your greatest run in modern program history. Enjoy it. It may never happen again. I mean what will happen when Bo Ryan retires?
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Bendbadgersteve wrote: See us as 4 out of 9 as we never offered Lucious, Fischer, Burton, Wilson, and Cohen.  Not sure if we offered Thomas.  If so, it was late.  Koenig and him wouldn't play together.  We genuinely lost Looney, Tokato, Matthews.  Smith was one of three guards with offers for two-Bohannon, Hughes, and Smith.  I like a lot how that worked out.

Don't know that we lost Blue as much as he was just, well...lost.  Most of those guys on that list never stood a chance of an offer to UW.
Most times a coach doesn't offer a top 100 in state player at a position of need is because that player has no interest in that team. I am sure Bo probably learned early on that Burton, Wilson, and Cohen had no interest. Thomas as far as I know Wisconsin did offer. As for Blue he was once a Wiscy commit so obviously Bo wanted him. Lucious not sure but I think he commited to Sparty pretty early. Fischer was a very late bloomer with limited interest and the best offer was by far Indiana.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 8:59 AM

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Wrong..he's tight with Duje
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Posted: 6/8/2014 9:11 AM

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cameraguy wrote:
DWILL05 wrote:
Dude you really suck at life lol. clicky clicky click . You type so much yet never have any relevant observations. No wonder you invaded the Illini board they got sick of you here. My god you type so so much I would think occasionally you would stumble upon a relevant topic or idea but no! You truelly never do! All those sentances and paragraphs yet you just came to the same conclusion as me. Brust, Kaminsky, and Tucker are the only Illinois preps that you guys have had success with. Just what I said. I mean why would Illinois recruit Wisconsin when they generally have no players. For most years the top 20 in Illinois is better than any wisconsin players.

You guys have had some significant in state players the last few years but you have still not landed them. What say you about that. I bet you don't land Stone, Ellenson, Nick Nosko lol so basically you are talking out your ass. You guys can't land top players anywhere. Not even your own state.
No...I just frame my argument differently than you and fill in what you forget to put in your post. Mark Vershaw was a very good player, and multi-year starter, for Bennett and his Final Four team. You left him out among players that had success at UW. He was an 1,000 point scorer. Don't forget Travon Davis' Sr. year for the 2001-2002 team in which he guided them to a conference title. Bo got a lot out of that Illinois boy.

Apparently, we can't land a guy like Sam Dekker....top-10 guy. Butch, burger boy. Stiemsma, top-50 and NBA vet. Top-5 draft pick, Devin Harris. Nigel Hayes, B1G 6th man of the year and 2nd in voting for Frosh of the year in the B1G after lottery pick Vonleh. Koenig, who we beat out UNC and Duke over. Others I could mention. Wisconsin recruits better than it's given credit for. Hayes is better than any Illinois Frosh as is Koenig. Jury's out on the three others. Hard to get PT on a Final Four team as a true Frosh.

Illinois has offered Stone, offered Looney last year, were after Noskowiak this year (UW didn't even recruit NN)....The State of Wisconsin has talent that not only Illinois wants but guys who the blue bloods are after. I don't think Illinois will get any Wisconsin guys. And Brevin Pritzl is ranked #69....better than non-100 Aaron Jordan eek Oh my! I guess we'll just have to wait for both teams recruits to get to their respective schools and see how it all plays out on the basketball court!! tongue
I forgot to mention Danny Jones, NBA legend Mike Finley, #1 ranked Sr. in the country Rashard Griffith, etc, etc....all came from Illinois. We've always had a nice, trickling pipeline from Illinois. Seems like the B1G and the rest of the country consistently raids Chicago and Illinois for talent. What's that all about? :-) Illinois can't even get the best players in their own state.....what's up with that? Tell me what's so different between Wisconsin not landing Looney or, perhaps, Stone....and Illinois not landing Jabari Parker and Jahlil Okafor....and Cliff Alexander? As always, the results of building a program is seen by the accomplishments on the floor. Why do we kick your butts under Bo??

Tell me....what's the difference between a 4* on one team and a 3* on another when that 3* outperforms the 4*?? Could have something to do with the coaching, program and the mindset of those 3*'s. Potential gets you so far....what happens when those kids hit the floor in College can be a very different story. Being able to fit in and be part of a team with good chemistry is a talent not measured by stars.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 9:51 AM

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Why do people even engage dumbass Illini fan? The guy is one of the most clueless guys I have attempted to read ( never can get through an entire post).
" Bo Ryan doesn't specialize in either offense or defense, just excellence."
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