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My 10 Things -- Northwestern
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:33 PM
My 10 Things -- Northwestern
1. I know we have this annual “should Northwestern fire Bill Carmody” debate and tonight was more evidence of what I’ve been saying for years… he’s just not good enough. I understand the same tired arguments… “he’s a good game coach and they won’t be able to hire anyone better”. If that’s the case sign him to a lifetime deal and pencil this team in for 8-10 or worse In the Big Ten from now until he dies. I understand the limitations (and injuries this year), but whatever he’s doing just isn’t good enough. 2. I thought there were a few things that were particularly damning for Carmody tonight. First of all, he looked 100% defeated on the bench at all times. Secondly, his team showed no heart and no hustle. We grabbed every loose ball, got every rebound, got whatever open shot we wanted and drove straight to the goal without any fever of having to absorb any contact. At least in other years where he lacked talent, they always gave us some resistance.
3. Unless Northwestern shoots over 60% in a game, they are done winning this year. You can’t abandon rebounding in the Big Ten and have any chance. In fact, the only worry I had on our rebounds was that we had so many guys in position that a couple would bump into each other and the ball would go out of bounds.
4. If Carmody evaluated that big freshman a Big 10 player, he has lost all objectivity and is grasping at straws. That guy was so mechanical that he made Evan Anderson look like Bill Walton.
5. Northwestern has now lost 5 Big Ten games by over 20 points. That is the most 20 point losses of any major conference team.
6. Why is Ben Brust, who sat out the last two days of practice with bad knees, checking back into the game with 3 minutes left? There is NO valid reason. And frankly, it borders on poor sportsmanship. Northwestern had used everyone they could use, so it’s not like we can wait for them to sub. Bo needed to make the move to the “middle bench” at the 6-7 minute mark. I know that it's “just Bo's way”; but in this case, Bo Ryan is most certainly wrong.
7. The ease with which we ran our offense tonight was almost comical. After maybe the first 10 minutes of the game, we didn’t even have to consider where the Northwestern defenders were playing. Every pass was open, so it was basically like running a drill until someone was so wide open that they had to shoot. Heck, if we knock down our uncontested shots in the first half, this borders on a 35-40 point game.
8. If Ryan Evans is going to miss a free throw, I prefer an airball. It makes you giggle, instead of getting more pissed at him. And how do you airball a free throw up 25 in a 70% empty building?
9. I think tonight was the first time I ever saw Bo change his mind about a sub. He was going to pull Frank after a bad turnover, but then Frank redeemed himself with some quick hands on a very nice steal and Bo decided to leave him in. I thought Frank had a well-deserved solid game overall.
10. Obviously a very good effort all-around. We did what we had to do against poor competition and earned a nice long break. Like Mike Kelley said “We’re just gonna keep improving our seed that rest of the way.”
Last edited 2/20/2013 10:43 PM by EricTheeRed
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:42 PM
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Over/Under 5 air balled free throws for Ryan Evans this year?
How many has he had thus far? 3? That is unreal.
“We are where we are and we go to the next game. I'll let other people judge whether that's good, bad or indifferent because they're all entitled to their opinion.” - Bo Ryan
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:48 PM
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Maybe it's time to bring in Rick Barry for a little time in the gym with Evans...
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:48 PM
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#9 Kaminsky caused a turnover on D and then he got fouled on the offensive end. I thought the exact same thing; he got a 'Get out of jail free' card for his hard work.
After Dekker 'lost his man' and the shutout, he was pulled. However, I really can't remember him having another lapse on D. He shot an airball on his 1st shot, then went 4-4 FG's, 2-2 FT's, with 3 rebounds, 1 assist & 1 block in 18 minutes. Very solid and efficient.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:51 PM
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Badger2116 wrote: #9 Kaminsky caused a turnover on D and then he got fouled on the offensive end. I thought the exact same thing; he got a 'Get out of jail free' card for his hard work.
After Dekker 'lost his man' and the shutout, he was pulled. However, I really can't remember him having another lapse on D. He shot an airball on his 1st shot, then went 4-4 FG's, 2-2 FT's, with 3 rebounds, 1 assist & 1 block in 18 minutes. Very solid and efficient. Yes, but the efficiency king is Z-Bo. 4 points and 4 boards (3 offensive) in 2 minutes...equaling Evans on both counts (26 minutes).
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:51 PM
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Badger2116 wrote: #9 Kaminsky caused a turnover on D and then he got fouled on the offensive end. I thought the exact same thing; he got a 'Get out of jail free' card for his hard work.
After Dekker 'lost his man' and the shutout, he was pulled. However, I really can't remember him having another lapse on D. He shot an airball on his 1st shot, then went 4-4 FG's, 2-2 FT's, with 3 rebounds, 1 assist & 1 block in 18 minutes. Very solid and efficient. He went under a screen early and their guy hit a three. Immediately yanked. He let his guy beat him backdoor for a layup (one of the two Bo alluded to post-game). Immediately yanked. Otherwise, another solid effort from the kid.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:51 PM
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good stuff ETR! I missed this and completely agree; Bo even said in interview some players were dinged up and needed some rest. "6. Why is Ben Brust, who sat out the last two days of practice with bad knees, checking back into the game with 3 minutes left? There is NO valid reason. And frankly, it borders on poor sportsmanship. Northwestern had used everyone they could use, so it’s not like we can wait for them to sub. Bo needed to make the move to the “middle bench” at the 6-7 minute mark. I know that it's “just Bo's way”; but in this case, Bo Ryan is most certainly wrong."
inexplicable....
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:04 PM
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I don't know how you can judge Carmody at all based on the junk he has to put out there. 7 scholie athletes? The best team at the Nat or SERF could give Northwestern a run for it's money.
Boy did Bo give Dekker an earful when he benched him in the first.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:09 PM
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FrontRowJBo wrote:
Badger2116 wrote: #9 Kaminsky caused a turnover on D and then he got fouled on the offensive end. I thought the exact same thing; he got a 'Get out of jail free' card for his hard work.
After Dekker 'lost his man' and the shutout, he was pulled. However, I really can't remember him having another lapse on D. He shot an airball on his 1st shot, then went 4-4 FG's, 2-2 FT's, with 3 rebounds, 1 assist & 1 block in 18 minutes. Very solid and efficient. He went under a screen early and their guy hit a three. Immediately yanked.
He let his guy beat him backdoor for a layup (one of the two Bo alluded to post-game). Immediately yanked.
Otherwise, another solid effort from the kid. I am not always a big fan of Bo's quick hook, but on this play it was definitely deserved. Sam Dekker showed pretty much zero effort in trying to get around the screen and kind of waved his hand at the shooter in an ole' style. As we all know Dekker is a beast on offense, but his defense is suspect. Given the opponent and circumstance I think this was a good teaching moment by Bo. This also speaks to how much of a blowout/boring game it was that I am talking about one specific play that had no bearing on the result. But hey, keep them coming like the last two. It's easier on my blood pressure.
Last edited 2/20/2013 11:11 PM by IMustBreakYou
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:14 PM
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I agree it was a great teaching moment. Northwestern didn't score before the 1st TV timeout, and as soon as Dekker came in...they drained a 3. I think he was a little rattled because he shot an airball too. Give him a ton of credit though, he played very well the rest of the way.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:17 PM
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Firing Carmody isn't necessarily a bad idea but, only if the Northwesteren AD makes a serious committment to b-ball. If its business as usual then they might as well stick with Carmody because the 1. Fire Carmody 2. ? 3. Profit stategy isn't the answer.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:44 PM
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I thought Tre Jackson played a great game. He really filled up the stat sheet - 8 points 7 boards 5 assists.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:00 AM
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mudcannon wrote: I thought Tre Jackson played a great game. He really filled up the stat sheet - 8 points 7 boards 5 assists. he is growing on me.... i no longer wait for the silly nonchalant pass...looks like a point guard.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:27 AM
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In person that seemed to be one of his more 'epic' airballs this year. I had a pretty good view and that was not close to hitting the rim.
Regarding Brust, the only thing I can think of was this being his first real 'home' game where he actually played and lots of friends and family were there. Probably wanted to get him a lot of minutes. But agreed.
Last edited 2/21/2013 12:29 AM by Badgers919
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Posted: 2/21/2013 5:33 AM
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This is the wrong year to make those points about Carmody. 3/5 of his starting line up is out in a year the B1G is as tough as it has ever been.
" Bo Ryan doesn't specialize in either offense or defense, just excellence."
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Posted: 2/21/2013 5:47 AM
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Not much to complain about but a game like this can sometimes soften us for the next opponent who most likely can't play that badly. Missed a ton of open shots and gave up 29 points in the 2nd half, so at least the coaches can go to the tape and find a few more things to work on. Still looks like the weakness of this team, as it typically is, is the ability to sink open shots even when they are essentially unguarded.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:08 AM
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To the comments on Dekker getting the hook I was having a conversation with my wife about this subject last night. I theorized that Bo must go through a ton of heartache with Sam. The reason I say that is because he knows that we need Sam on offense but he also knows that Sam can be a liability on defense. Bruiser and Evans are much much better defenders but Sam is a much much much better offensive player. I think Bo prays every night that Sam can get close to them defensively because if he was he would be playing 30+ minutes.
So when we scream and yell about how Sam should be getting more minutes I believe Bo agrees with us but can't do it until Sam brings it on defense every single possession and that probably won't happen this year. However, next year, I really don't see Sam averaging less than 30 minutes a game with Bruiser and Evans gone and hopefully a step up in his defensive game in the off season.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:25 AM
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I'm amazed you found 10 things. That was a scrimmage, and not even a glorified one.
By the way, Jackson has had 4 straight games with 4 or more assists and 3 straight with a positive assist to turnover ratio.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:36 AM
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Agreed on 6. Was waiting for the two Zs to get some starters off the floor.
Were those the softest rims ever?
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:41 AM
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I'm not exagerating when I say this.....Evans would be the worst FT shooter on my daughter's 5th grade BB team.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:49 AM
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newman21 wrote: Maybe it's time to bring in Rick Barry for a little time in the gym with Evans... Ryan too often shoots his free throws like his right arm is a catapult. He points his right elbow at the target, brings the ball to his forehead and then just flings his forearm toward the basket. No wonder his shots are flat and/or short. A more classic shooter lifts the entire arm during the shot, like one's reaching for an overhead light bulb and then gets the wrist flip at the top of the move. He's capable of the more classic move as I saw him employ it on one free throw last Sunday. But he cannot stay repetitive for whatever reason this year.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:51 AM
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CloudsOfDust wrote: I'm amazed you found 10 things. That was a scrimmage, and not even a glorified one.
He didn't. Points 1-5 could really be wrapped into one short one. Four of Carmody's top 6 players are freshmen, including a walk-on. As a result, the performance is as expected and gives ETR an opportunity to talk about what poor coaching NW has.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 7:20 AM
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Last night should precipitate another deluge of e-mails and tweets towards Ken Pomeroy as it put the Badgers over the top in terms of proving once again that his system is broken. UW now up to 5 in the KenPom rankings (#3 defense, #2 SOS).
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Posted: 2/21/2013 7:20 AM
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I really hope Evans gets his confidence back. If he can perform on offense at a semi respectable efficiency this team is going to be an extremely tough team come tourney time. Today, the only shot he made was when his defender flopped terribly and left Evans with a wide open layup. Other than that, he missed a few shots by a lot..had no chance of going in. That is a pretty terrible offensive display considering we were playing the worst defensive big 10 team I may have ever seen.
I continue to be impressed with Brust's overall game. He has really improved from last year...especially on defense.
Frank with another solid game...IMO he will be ready for a much bigger role next year.
Last edited 2/21/2013 7:37 AM by mkm13
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Posted: 2/21/2013 7:50 AM
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Jackson continued to have a bunch of really lazy, unforgivable passes. He didn't try to press on the offensive side and played better, but his passing is atrocious for a PG.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 7:57 AM
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Bacchus1 wrote: Jackson continued to have a bunch of really lazy, unforgivable passes. He didn't try to press on the offensive side and played better, but his passing is atrocious for a PG. Jackson had several "double bounce" bounce passes last night.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:13 AM
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sudsmcbucky wrote: I'm not exagerating when I say this.....Evans would be the worst FT shooter on my daughter's 5th grade BB team. I turned to a mom on my 3rd graders bball team yesterday and said "If the Wisconsin Badgers shot free throws like this team, they would be undefeated in the Big Ten". She gave me a quizzical look.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:16 AM
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Couple of thoughts:
#2 stood out to me as I watched also. I specifically remember the play where Dekker drove through the lane on his lefty layup and there was no hedge, no help topside, no help weakside...he just was watched by three NW defenders - that's all lack of effort. They showed Carmody again and again and he was just sitting there, with a defeated, blank look. I've coached and played on bad luck teams, it sucks - but I've never been part of a team that quit - that was not BIG effort displayed by NW.
After Frank's weight loss this year, getting stronger should be the focus in this off-season. If he can get stronger, he will be a really solid player - there are times now he gets in position and can't finish, or gets his hand on a rebound and can't quite corral it.
Another solid performance by TJax post-Minny.
Sam is learning...you snooze you lose on defense vs. NW. No excuse on that first three, he was fresh, coming off of two days of prep and pregame stuff - glad Bo pulled him and good to see Sam got the message and played great the rest of the way.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:16 AM
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mkm13 wrote: I really hope Evans gets his confidence back. If he can perform on offense at a semi respectable efficiency this team is going to be an extremely tough team come tourney time. Today, the only shot he made was when his defender flopped terribly and left Evans with a wide open layup. Other than that, he missed a few shots by a lot..had no chance of going in. That is a pretty terrible offensive display considering we were playing the worst defensive big 10 team I may have ever seen.
I continue to be impressed with Brust's overall game. He has really improved from last year...especially on defense.
Frank with another solid game...IMO he will be ready for a much bigger role next year. Agree with Frank - am no longer worried about the starting "5" next year, do wonder who will be the backup.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:32 AM
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#6- as we all learn-- Bo is never wrong.
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