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My 10 Things -- Indiana

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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:31 PM

My 10 Things -- Indiana 


1. On the surface you can say "the loss of Kaminsky hurt the Badgers". While that is most likely true offensively, the fact was that his minutes would have been limited anyway because there is nobody on Indiana that he can dream of guarding. Some more three-pointers would have been great. As for his defense? Ick.

2. Ryan Evans' pass fake and then 3-point attempt early in the game was inexcusable. If I was Dekker, I would have had to use all my discipline to restrain from punching him in the head. At least he did make up for it by finding him on a nice pass to the corner in the second half. Evans is a vital cog for us, but after 4 years I've grown tired of the "general foolishness" that invades his game. It's particularly evident in shot selection and decision-making with the ball. Obviously, dribbling to the corner against a press is something your grade school coach would tell you not to do. He's a good player, put he just pisses you off sometimes.

3. Berggren's two biggest defensive tests of the year this far were Devante Gardner and Zeller. He was 0-for-1.5 and then he turned it on and got better in that second half. That was huge.

4. I thought the first 27-28 minutes of the game is about as well as we can play offensively. Then once we got up 10 we looked about the same as we did against Virginia. I totally understand controlling pace when you're up double figures against the #2 team in the country, but we got totally out of balance. I think it was key that we at least kept the lead and forced them to continue to extend, which lead to some free throw attempts.

5. Obviously I thought our defense on everyone other than Zeller was as good as it gets. Guys like Oladipo and Watford should be able to get any shot they want against our athletes, on paper. Brust (who has improved by leaps and bounds as a defender) was also amazing on Hulls. But that's why they play the games and why Bo Ryan is a genius and Crean is just a recruiter who occasionally coaches not terribly. I take pleasure in the fact that Crean will most likely silently weep to Joni tonight, yet again.

6. With under 4 minutes left in the game, Dekker needs to be out there. He didn't always make the best decisions tonight, but he's fearless and he's a shot maker. We didn't run great offense there, but we got it done.

7. I had no problem with Evans getting popped late in the game and being forced to the sideline. Then for some reason Bo Ryan goes back to him. From a percentage point, there's just no way to justify him being in a late-game fouling situation.

8. What was more impressive... Berggren's massive slam or Brust showing he can dunk in the half court? I'll take Brust.

9. Does Tre Jackson's scholarship include a clause that he has to lob one inexcusably lazy pass per game? He also got flustered after they missed the call where he got hit on the arm and that took him out of his game. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets a technical before the season is over. He definitely is very demonstrative in his complaints. Obviously quarterbacking a team to only 8 turnovers at Indiana is simply outstanding and his mid-range shot at about 2:00 was as clutch as it gets.

10. Call me crazy, but I think this team makes the tourney. I think this counts as a signature win. Just a gutty team effort. Anyone still want to claim NIT?

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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:33 PM

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I agree that the Kaminsky injury didn't really hurt us today because Indiana only really has one big, and because they pressed so much. That small lineup without Bergs or Kaminsky had five ball handlers on the floor, which really helped us handle the Indiana press.

That said, hopefully he'll be back for the next game. We will need him to come up big later this season against other team.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:33 PM

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Cannot believe you totally miss the lead story of this game: Traevon Jackson's emergence as the PG. Silly. Your silliest to date IMO.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:38 PM

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Tre Jackson and Sam I Am are the difference between earlier in the year and now. Two totally different teams. Wow, what a win. I hope they can keep it rolling into Iowa City. That will be a tough game to win on the road back to back. In Bo We Trust.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:38 PM

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EricTheeRed wrote:

8. What was more impressive... Berggren's massive slam or Brust showing he can dunk in the half court? I'll take Brust.

At first glance I honestly thought he got denied by the front of the rim.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:38 PM

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Congrats on a signature win.  As an MU fan I don't mind seeing IU lose.  I'm also happy that the MU victory over Bucky may look like a signature win for us at the end of the year if you keep knocking off ranked teamstongue
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:39 PM

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Don't disagree with any of the 10 things but, frankly, Franky has been playing tougher the past couple games. I'm starting to believe he will be performing even better at the end of the season
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:39 PM

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TheNewRed wrote: Cannot believe you totally miss the lead story of this game: Traevon Jackson's emergence as the PG. Silly. Your silliest to date IMO.
And I quote:

Obviously quarterbacking a team to only 8 turnovers at Indiana is simply outstanding and his mid-range shot at about 2:00 was as clutch as it gets.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:39 PM

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I didn't see the game ETR, too bad everyone played so terribly and we lost....
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:39 PM

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Pretty spot on Eric. Thing that stands out the most to me for the future is #4. Gotta find something to go to when this situation crops up. Maybe a Duke style dribble weave to open a crease for Dekker/Brust/Jackson. This is kind of a problem that crops up a ton for us when we 1)have a lead late in game and 2) try to work the clock which stifles our aggressiveness and ultimately kills our offense.
Gutty performance and a great win over tan Tom who will probably ambien himself to sleep tonight.


On Wisconsin!
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:40 PM

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Senior leadership and growth from underclassmen. What's new?
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:48 PM

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That had to be the worst game of Hulls career. He's been really bad handling the ball of late but he was a train wreck today. Not a single good look. We have absolutely owned him through the years.

They really finished with some heart when they cut the lead to one, on both ends of the court. Bruesewitz was fantastic on both ends of the court, and against the press (aside from the last throw away)
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:51 PM

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Not to mention the fact his emergence happened 3 days ago against Illinois.

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TheNewRed wrote: Cannot believe you totally miss the lead story of this game: Traevon Jackson's emergence as the PG. Silly. Your silliest to date IMO.
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Obviously quarterbacking a team to only 8 turnovers at Indiana is simply outstanding and his mid-range shot at about 2:00 was as clutch as it gets.


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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:54 PM

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I think the Harbaugh brothers are on the phone to their sister telling her to throw the loser out.
 
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:59 PM

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With Regard to #4, I believe our offensive stagnation coincided with Berg going out early in the 2nd with his 3rd foul.  Having no other true "big" options had us a little overmatched.  Not that we were getting it in the paint a ton after the break, but with JB and FK out for a while, we really struggled.

I totally agree with your point on #6.  Especially in the situation described above, Dekker is the only player that can consistently create in the mid to short game, especially when we have to play with a smaller lineup.  Plus, when the game is tight, I'd trust the handles, body control, and free throw shooting of Dekker more than anyone else at the F/C positions.

I'm excited.  It's been a good week for Badger B-Ball.  Although these recent wins help to balance out some of the early season clunkers, I think there are bound to be a few more forehead-slapping moments in B10 play.  Still, we've shown that we can ball with just about anyone, so that schedule doesn't seem quite as scary as it did in December.
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4. I thought the first 27-28 minutes of the game is about as well as we can play offensively. Then once we got up 10 we looked about the same as we did against Virginia. I totally understand controlling pace when you're up double figures against the #2 team in the country, but we got totally out of balance. I think it was key that we at least kept the lead and forced them to continue to extend, which lead to some free throw attempts.

6. With under 4 minutes left in the game, Dekker needs to be out there. He didn't always make the best decisions tonight, but he's fearless and he's a shot maker. We didn't run great offense there, but we got it done.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:00 PM

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I think Mike has brought leadership and intensity to the team when they were really in need. Jackson has really elevated his game. They look like a good team now. Earlier in the season they were 5 good players, not a good team.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:04 PM

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#2 bugged me a couple times when it came to both Evans and Brust. When Brust took that lean-er three at the end of the shot clock, Dekker was right in his vision for a spot-up three. But it wasn't as bad this game, and that may be the only criticism that I can think of.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:06 PM

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I was very concerned about the perimeter defense once Gasser got hurt.  It has improved immensely.  Brust deserves huge props for holding a terrific 3pt shooter like Hulls to 4 points including 0 threes and only one 3 point attempt.

Much better balance on offense for UW than for IU and everyone contributed in all kinds of areas.  Bergs had a sub-par offensive effort but had some great D down the stretch.

FT shooting over 78%.  IU did them some favors by letting Evans get rid of the ball several times when they could have sent him to the line.

They had what could have been a fatal drought in the 2nd half but at least when they get late in the clock a number of guys may do something with it instead of get it to Taylor under 10 and stand around like last year.

Other than that occasional weave at the top I have no idea what IU was trying to do offensively.

I'm sure they'll lose one they shouldn't, but this one feels awfully good.

Hopefully this is a preview of things for the Harbaugh clan the rest of the week.  Is anyone in that family a non-douche?

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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:07 PM

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Even if they do drop some games down the line that they shouldn't, this one victory looms large on selection Sunday.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:10 PM

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Lots of great individual defensively plays tonight. Kept them in front and frustrated them. Jackson looks like a better defender every game.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:12 PM

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For those who want to watch it again, game will be rebroadcast at midnight (Central) on ESPNU.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:16 PM

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potguy wrote: I think Mike has brought leadership and intensity to the team when they were really in need. Jackson has really elevated his game. They look like a good team now. Earlier in the season they were 5 good players, not a good team.
Yeah - I think appreciation for Bruesewitz has been lacking in this run we've had... Since returning from the concussion, we are 6-0, and he's averaging 9.2 PPG, 6.5 RPG, and shooting over 54%... When he is playing like that offensively, he has more energy on defense and going for loose balls, and is a HUGE asset... on that he hasn't been for a long time...
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:16 PM

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Seemed like Dekker got in Evans face for hoisting it when he had D wide open with the next pass.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:16 PM

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FireMarshalBill wrote: Lots of great individual defensively plays tonight. Kept them in front and frustrated them. Jackson looks like a better defender every game.
Excellent point. It has to be all about "want to"... there's no reason we should be able to stay in front of Indiana on most every play.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:28 PM

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Even if they do drop some games down the line that they shouldn't, this one victory looms large on selection Sunday.

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Screw that line of thinking! It's win the B1G time now!


On Wisconsin!
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:32 PM

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ETR you might have your boys on here that think your insight makes their day, but I am not one of them.  If you have never played basketball then just shut up.  How you could come out with a critiquing style on any player is incredible:

1)  Frank Kaminsky was a key kid tonight, and with him unable to play, Bergeren's 3 fouls made the rebounding matchup with Zeller a challenge.  Kaminsky played great, and did vs. Illinois Saturday as well.  You making his defense an issue is laughable.  He deserves a big pat on the back not your impression of him being a bad defensive player. 

2)  The team.  There is not a Badger that walked on that floor tonight that didn't make me proud of how they played.  Tremendous "team win".  Indiana's defense can make an offense look like it is standing around.

3)  Bo and his assistants.  You could tell by our defense is that this team "had a plan" on how they were going to defend Indiana.  Bo mentioned it after the game.  What a tremendous job they all did in preparing this team.

4)  Substitution flow.  I feel (to the coach's credit) that this team is getting better and that the players are now each starting to feel more comfortable with their roles.  I think that maturation process is evident on this team.  Travon J. and Marshall both look more comfortable and thus confident.  Brust looked more in control, Dekker is just a "sweet player" that looks less worried about making a mistake.  I like him with the ball.  Evans being on the court tonight with little time left bothered you from free throw part, but we needed him for rebounding also.  He does a great job of holding his position and rebounding.  The team is better at this juncture of the season because they are more comfortable with their role, and that brings more confidence.  That is coaching.  ETR talks like winning at Indiana was nice, but nothing he didn't expect.  I have listened/watched games a long time and winning at Indiana almost never happened let alone winning 5 straight times there AND beating them 11 straight games.  That might be a top 10 item I think?!

5)  Bruizer's seems to really be "wanting it", playing very hard, and not on ground as much.  His confidence is better each game.  Those 3 seniors were key tonight. 

6)  It is so fun to watch a team "grow" in it's team chemistry.  So fun to watch kids "not be intimidated" playing in perhaps one of the toughest venue's in college basketball.  So fun to see them "not fold" under all that pressure.  So proud of Badger basketball.

7) Tre Jackson's lazy passes bother me also, but the kid is a 1st year D I basketball player, that is growing in leaps and bounds.  I liked Marshall more at the point myself, BUT..........Bo Ryan and staff saw something that makes them play him.  It works and the kid deserves a ton of compliments. 

8)  Instead of focusing on the dunks of anyone, (and I liked all of them), I am more impressed with the way Wisconsin gets on the floor for any loose ball, holds it's position in rebounding, and takes away what teams like to do.  They made Jordan Halls look slow tonight. 

9)  I had a problem with Evans getting popped and Frank getting poked in the eye.  We need those guys, and I don't look at injuries forcing a player to the sideline.  Evans getting popped sounded like a good thing to you?!  And then you question Bo for putting him back in.  ETR, you know better than Bo what should be done right?  You are a frickin idiot!  Self promoting, quick to criticize others, frequently revert to making others comments stupid, but YOU JUST KNOW BETTER!  You sound like a writer not a former athlete. 

10)  Their athletes ('on paper' you know!) should be able to get any shot they wanted (assumption that they have better athletes).  Well basketball is a "team game".  Bo and his teams prove that and have for as long as he has been at Wisconsin. 

Your observations are sometimes very good, but after a game like this, your 10 things acted like we lost!  I don't think you ever played the game honestly.  You sound like a writer not a player.  So much postive to write about, but you just had to make sure we didn't get too excited!

That's enough.  Just tired of ETR always making his comments like they are something golden for all of us to listen to. 

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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:36 PM

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MUnertl wrote: Even if they do drop some games down the line that they shouldn't, this one victory looms large on selection Sunday.
Assuming IU keeps winning.  It's very early in the season and they almost blew a 20+ pt lead to Minnesota at home on Saturday.

They really haven't earned their ranking, and their non conference schedule was laughably bad.

That said, any road win in this conference is a good one.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:37 PM

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DBadger wrote:


5)  Bruizer's seems to really be "wanting it", playing very hard, and not on ground as much.  His confidence is better each game.  Those 3 seniors were key tonight. 

This is the single most important factor to me, at least right there with the point guard play, in why we are playing so well.  Berggren has been good all year, but Evans and Bruesewitz playing as well as they did tonight was huge, and will continue to drive the direction of the team for the remainder of the season.  Bo's (and really most college teams') seniors are just so key to the team success...
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:43 PM

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When will Dekker start over Brust? I know they play virtually the same number of minutes and Brust's defense has vastly improved, but man, he just screams 6th man swingman to me.

And I know this is jumping way forward, but I'm absolutely salivating at the idea of our front court over the next two years. Jackson, Marshall, Bronson, Gasser, Brust, Dekker, can all mix and match with the ability of moving Dekker to the 4....damn it will be awesome.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 11:45 PM

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"They really haven't earned their ranking, and their non conference schedule was laughably bad."

To the surprise of literally no one on this board. We all called out.


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