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Posted: 11/28/2012 7:54 PM
Wisconsin vs Virginia
This had to be one of the worst rebounding performances I have seen for a Wisconsin team in the last 15 years. They need to do some weight training for the guys hands!
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Posted: 11/28/2012 7:57 PM
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Holy crap do we need some athletes. People can call it cliche or whatever, but it's very easy to see to anyone actually watching. Getting really sick of watching Bruiser get more minutes than Dekker too. He gives us 6 points on 7 shots with one board and overrated defense. Great job.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 7:57 PM
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The thing that confuses me is we weren't an awful rebounding team last year, and we only lost two guards (three counting Wilson). What the hell happened?
And I really wish Bo would have called a timeout after about 10 frantic seconds at the end there. That last possession was unbelievably bad, and that's putting it nicely.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:00 PM
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This is probably the second worst loss of Bo Ryan's career at Wisconsin.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:00 PM
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This team can't beat good teams unless they shoot well from the three point line. They cannot score consistently otherwise.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:00 PM
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It was weak. Anyone else a bit shocked at how poorly Decker plays without the ball in his hands? Standing around. Often. BO can't keep him on the floor in a game like this because it is the same story on defense. This is an offensively-challenged team until he figures that out.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:01 PM
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Hilarious the thread on the 2 frosh bigs have been locked.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:01 PM
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The defense was equally as atrocious. You win games by making stops down the stretch and the help defense was atrocious. How many late rotations were there tonight? Almost more than i've seen in Bo's entire tenure. You're slow to get around a screen and you're gonna get give up open looks all night. One of the more uncharacteristic teams we've had and Bo has his work cut out for him. Luckily our defensive issues are mental and we're relying on 3 kids (Dekker, Marshall, Jackson) to guard the perimeter and they've all been abused on off ball screens. Its a thing that takes time and experience and they'll get it soon enough. The rebounding is more concerning but i think the two may be related.
On Wisconsin!
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:02 PM
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Going to be a long season early on of some growing pains. Point guard play is erratic and Evans' offensive game is an issue. On a positive note the defense looked improved tonight overall even though Va hit some shots.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:02 PM
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Josh Gasser is a phenomenal rebounding guard. Marshall, Jackson and Brust are undersized. Gasser would help us tremendously in rebounding.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:03 PM
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Yes. The inexperience really showed in this game. Give Bennett and Virginia a ton of credit for exploiting it. JamaicanJake wrote: The defense was equally as atrocious. You win games by making stops down the stretch and the help defense was atrocious. How many late rotations were there tonight? Almost more than i've seen in Bo's entire tenure. You're slow to get around a screen and you're gonna get give up open looks all night. One of the more uncharacteristic teams we've had and Bo has his work cut out for him. Luckily our defensive issues are mental and we're relying on 3 kids (Dekker, Marshall, Jackson) to guard the perimeter and they've all been abused on off ball screens. Its a thing that takes time and experience and they'll get it soon enough. The rebounding is more concerning but i think the two may be related. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:03 PM
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Too much Brust and Evans on offense. Need more Berg an Dekker. Is Traevon Jackson that much better than Marshall where he gets 32 minutes to Marshall's 11? Jackson did a little too much dribbling out top for my liking.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:03 PM
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Dekker does need more minutes but he also needs to stop being so passive. Coaches should make him run after every game he doesn't get 8 shots up.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:03 PM
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TheNewRed wrote: It was weak. Anyone else a bit shocked at how poorly Decker plays without the ball in his hands? Standing around. Often. BO can't keep him on the floor in a game like this because it is the same story on defense. This is an offensively-challenged team until he figures that out. We must be watching different games. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:03 PM
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TheNewRed wrote: It was weak. Anyone else a bit shocked at how poorly Decker plays without the ball in his hands? Standing around. Often. BO can't keep him on the floor in a game like this because it is the same story on defense. This is an offensively-challenged team until he figures that out. Bullshit. You think he is the only one who makes a misstake? Blame a freshman for this team woes. Hell,he is one of the few who looked like he even gave a damn. I'm tired of this crap. Dekker needs to play. Live with his misstakes. God knows Evans and Bruisewitz make plenty of their own. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:04 PM
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I have never been so upset with the badgers before. Literally no one was looking to rebound. Ugh. This was embarrassing. I was on the conversation board on ESPN and I was actually embarrassed.
I like it slow, just like Bo. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:04 PM
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Dekker is the ONLY player who can create a shot. Rebounding is awful, to nonathletic 6'6" forwards and small guards. Total lack of upper class leadership along with average at best players trying to take over a game. This team also pounds the hell out of the ball, over dribbling to no positive end. This will be a long year.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:05 PM
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TheNewRed wrote: It was weak. Anyone else a bit shocked at how poorly Decker plays without the ball in his hands? Standing around. Often. BO can't keep him on the floor in a game like this because it is the same story on defense. This is an offensively-challenged team until he figures that out. That is our offense. We don't have consistent guard play or a natural go to player. Thus, the offense has no identity. Each of the 5 role players on the floor spends way too much time standing around waiting for one of the other 4 to make something happen. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:06 PM
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Yes, this was a bad, seems like everyone was just standing around and watching whoever has the ball just drive to the hoop and either turn it over or take an off balance shot, and not one attempt by anyone to screen for another on the last possession, this does not even look like a Bo Ryan coached team, what is going on?
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:06 PM
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panama74 wrote: Dekker does need more minutes but he also needs to stop being so passive. Coaches should make him run after every game he doesn't get 8 shots up. Yeah but he also got benched twice this year after taking and missing a 3. You really have to wonder what is getting talked about in practice. It seems to me that mixed messages have been sent all season long with Dekker and it looks like he's just as confused as I am. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:08 PM
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That's what our offensive philosophy seems to be -- standing around. I don't understand it and I don't like it.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:08 PM
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I pointed Dekker out because of the over-the-top hype here about him. His offense is still a one trick pony. I could also easily point out how out of control Marshall plays, or Jackson... They do not, however, stand around when they don't have the ball, nor do they stand around on the defensive end of the floor. The inexperience is obvious and it leads to losses which we will have to live with until they become more disciplined. SRS80 wrote:
TheNewRed wrote: It was weak. Anyone else a bit shocked at how poorly Decker plays without the ball in his hands? Standing around. Often. BO can't keep him on the floor in a game like this because it is the same story on defense. This is an offensively-challenged team until he figures that out. Bullshit. You think he is the only one who makes a misstake? Blame a freshman for this team woes. Hell,he is one of the few who looked like he even gave a damn. I'm tired of this crap. Dekker needs to play. Live with his misstakes. God knows Evans and Bruisewitz make plenty of their own. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:08 PM
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SRS80 wrote:
TheNewRed wrote: It was weak. Anyone else a bit shocked at how poorly Decker plays without the ball in his hands? Standing around. Often. BO can't keep him on the floor in a game like this because it is the same story on defense. This is an offensively-challenged team until he figures that out. Bullshit. You think he is the only one who makes a misstake? Blame a freshman for this team woes. Hell,he is one of the few who looked like he even gave a damn. I'm tired of this crap. Dekker needs to play. Live with his misstakes. God knows Evans and Bruisewitz make plenty of their own. My feelings exactly. The upper classmen have made tons of mistakes at both ends of the court this year, the last guy we should be worried about is Dekker. At least he can give us a spark and he had one of the few good defensive plays of the night as well. He's going to make his mistakes, but he can also make up for it on the offensive end when given the chance. I can't say the same for damn near every other player on the roster. |
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:09 PM
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Dekker's offense is a one trick pony? He can shoot it and drive it. It sure as hell beats watching us stand around and dribble outside the goddam three point line. Because that's all we do.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:10 PM
C'mon Man - Bo Ryan edition
I love Bo as much as anyone but I would have coached UW to victory tonight by doing a few simple things.
1) Dekker plays 30+ minutes, why? Because he's the most competitive guy on the court (maybe bruiser) he CAN SCORE THE BALL, and he is playing better D than some on the team. (Evans, bruiser- terrible showings)
2) George Marshall more, traevon less. Marshall is a MUCH better shooter and traevon's man was sagging off him all night. Marshall would have made some jumpers to ignite the offense.
3) bench Evans, why? Can't defend, can't rebound, can't take smart shots, won't pass to Dekker.
Seriously it needs to happen. The majority of minutes should go to
Marshall
Brust
Dekker
Bruiser
Berggren period....
4) tell the team to DRIVE when their is 5 min left and you are in the bonus. Missed opportunity here. Big time.
5) opens free throw percentage is unreal, don't know what to do about it but its worth mentioning.
Also, by rule, that was a foul on the Brust 3. You cannot leave your feet and make contact.
Those are my c'mon man moments and observations. Can't believe Bo coached such a poor game.
That was a truley embarrassing loss on a national stage. We are on the bubble already for the tourny.cant offord anymore loses in noncon.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:10 PM
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Evans and Bruiser are ******* terrible. That is all!
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:11 PM
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Anyone who has watch Bo Ryan teams the past decade does not have to question what is being taught Dekker, or any of the others: spacing, screening, footwork.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:11 PM
Re: C'mon Man - Bo Ryan edition
Should be opponents free throw %
Sorry
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:11 PM
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Sometimes they look like 5 good players thrown together for the first time. Hard to understand.
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Posted: 11/28/2012 8:12 PM
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I agree, George. I also think that uw is better off trying to push the ball than settling into a half court offense. Frankly, they are too limited offensively to score against a set defense. They have been much better pushing the tempo to create better looks.
I think this coaching staff exhibits a lot of loyalty, especially to the seniors. however, what about loyalty to the team as a whole? 'paying your dues' is a great notion, but is the means, not the end, right? time for a youth movemement?
i hope players aren't being shown up for the sake of some sort of idiosynchratic teaching lesson. bench is a good factor, but dekker and marshall know mistakes. I just hope the staff sticks with those players as i think they can be important contributors.
how about this senior crop of wings? no improvement, just better results at times against a more favorable opponent. time to move forward! |
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