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Dowell Twins

Posted: 8/10/2014 12:20 PM

Dowell Twins 


Pat Fitzgerald told them good-bye for looking around even though they were his two top-rated recruits in this class.  GA has offered them and they're listening.  Nice RB and safety from the #1 ranked team in Ohio, reportedly looking hard at Vanderbilt but what a nice fit they both would be in Madison!
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Posted: 8/10/2014 12:45 PM

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They would be an awesome get.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 1:48 PM

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Didn't end up working out that well for us last time that happened. confused

At what point does Fitz realize that he's fighting a losing battle with that policy?

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Posted: 8/10/2014 1:56 PM

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Would be a gift from the Gods for the Badgers. We will gladly take 4-star twins that play positions of high importance.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 3:53 PM

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This is a battle that we have to win.

Can't let talented kids from the Big Ten footprint wind up in the SEC. If they committed to Northwestern and are looking into Vanderbilt, their academics must be in order. Kentucky doesn't fit that model at all. Keep them here in the Big Ten.

Last edited 8/10/2014 3:53 PM by TerraceChair

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Posted: 8/10/2014 5:39 PM

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Bring them in for an official and let the Trotter twins host, done deal then.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 6:45 PM

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Great idea Fairway. a lot of commonality there indeed. Also, living in Racine, everything I have seen and read about the Trotter twins is very positive with a strong upbringing, hard work, etc.

So yeah let's do it and get the  Dowell twins in the fold as Badgers as well!

Go Badgers!!!
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Posted: 8/10/2014 10:43 PM

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cant blame a guy for sticking to his  principles. there are bigger fish to get than these guys, however I am sure they would make good badgers.

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Posted: 8/11/2014 8:01 AM

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Didn't end up working out that well for us last time that happened. confused

At what point does Fitz realize that he's fighting a losing battle with that policy?

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Worked well in the past. Scott Starks was a Northwestern commit at one point. Just because Watkins decided to be a dingbat doesn't mean that every former NU commit is not worth looking at.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 8:04 AM

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sharidoogie wrote:

cant blame a guy for sticking to his  principles. there are bigger fish to get than these guys, however I am sure they would make good badgers.

These guys would be two of the highest ranked recruits in the current class.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 8:10 AM

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cant blame a guy for sticking to his  principles. there are bigger fish to get than these guys, however I am sure they would make good badgers.



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Both guys are the highest ranked players left on the board at receiver and running back that we have a legitimate shot at landing. I don't see then as small fish. With their size/speed combo they could potentially play four positions in college. That sort of versatility makes them notable in my book.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 11:48 AM

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We have some equally nice options remaining on the board at WR.  In particular, the Alexander kid from Virginia who has better size IMO and looks to be more of a possession type than David Dowell.  But both fit well with the Wisconsin program and Wisconsin academics!

I don't knock Fitzgerald for his stance on this at all.  The academic recruiting challenges at Northwestern almost demand it.

madbadger wrote:


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cant blame a guy for sticking to his  principles. there are bigger fish to get than these guys, however I am sure they would make good badgers.



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Both guys are the highest ranked players left on the board at receiver and running back that we have a legitimate shot at landing. I don't see then as small fish. With their size/speed combo they could potentially play four positions in college. That sort of versatility makes them notable in my book.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 12:21 PM

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TheNewRed wrote:

We have some equally nice options remaining on the board at WR.  In particular, the Alexander kid from Virginia who has better size IMO and looks to be more of a possession type than David Dowell.  But both fit well with the Wisconsin program and Wisconsin academics!

I don't knock Fitzgerald for his stance on this at all.  The academic recruiting challenges at Northwestern almost demand it.

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cant blame a guy for sticking to his  principles. there are bigger fish to get than these guys, however I am sure they would make good badgers.



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Both guys are the highest ranked players left on the board at receiver and running back that we have a legitimate shot at landing. I don't see then as small fish. With their size/speed combo they could potentially play four positions in college. That sort of versatility makes them notable in my book.
Considering that getting one brother most likely means that you land the other one as well. For that reason alone I'd put Dowell ahead of Alexander in recruiting importance even though I like Alexander a lot. YMMV.

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Posted: 8/11/2014 1:53 PM

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madbadger wrote:
Considering that getting one brother most likely means that you land the other one as well.
They say that they are a package deal, and this is one case where I believe it.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 4:21 PM

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Do they have any plans to visit Madison.  That would be a good start.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 4:22 PM

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Do they have offers from UW?
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Posted: 8/11/2014 5:31 PM

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Yes and yes.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 10:58 PM

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madbadger wrote:



Worked well in the past. Scott Starks was a Northwestern commit at one point. Just because Watkins decided to be a dingbat doesn't mean that every former NU commit is not worth looking at.
Yep, Derek Watt was a NU commit too.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 11:14 PM

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Go for it.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 11:31 PM

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madbadger wrote:


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Didn't end up working out that well for us last time that happened. confused

At what point does Fitz realize that he's fighting a losing battle with that policy?

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Worked well in the past. Scott Starks was a Northwestern commit at one point. Just because Watkins decided to be a dingbat doesn't mean that every former NU commit is not worth looking at.
Yeah, struggled with the emoticon there. biggrin or tongue might have made it more clear that I wasn't being serious as far as thinking one had anything to do with the other or that we shouldn't recruit the hell out of them. But thinking of the Watkins situation, I just couldn't muster up anything other than  confused. Though I guess banghead might've worked. 

I've said it before - but what a disappointing series of events for a kid you just couldn't help but pull for & that it hurts the Badgers is just the salt in the wound. Honestly, if somebody convinced me that he'll end up somewhere that's a better fit/better opportunity for him, despite still being disappointed for UW, I'd be genuinely happy for him. I just don't get the feeling that's the case.

Oh and komacki - you're on a roll in this thread. biggrin

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Posted: 8/12/2014 12:25 AM

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Fitz pretty much does it when he knows they're gone anyway.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 6:24 AM

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I have no hard evidence to back this up, but my gut sense is that we have a pretty good success rate in finding contributors when we take kids from Ohio.  Huge pool of good players to choose from and only major football school to select from in state is OSU, who is now recruiting nationally as much as anyone. While we may never be the draw to beat Columbus or Ann Arbor in the heart of an Ohio kid, there is no reason they shouldn't be coming here over a horse farm town like Lexington or a cow pie town like East Lansing. 

I'm not sure that this state has been de-emphasized by the new staff (in pursuit of Georgia, California, Texas, Virginia, Maryland) but it'd be great to land a few kids from Ohio every year as well. Scout shows only 3 current offers to Ohio kids, including the subjects of this thread.

EDIT: Quick scan of the past 10 years didn't reveal an incredible "hit" rate in Ohio. I still thinkwe could be successful there thouggh.

Last edited 8/12/2014 6:57 AM by TerraceChair

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Posted: 8/12/2014 6:48 AM

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UW will continue to have some success (1-3 recruits)  in Ohio,  but I have to think it has/will become more difficult,  The big new player for quality Ohio high schoolers is Kentucky, who have 8-9 2015 recruits and signed about 10 in 2014.

Based on the recent past, I'd put the Badgers behind daOSU, (sc)UM, ND, Kentucky, MSU and PSU.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 8:04 AM

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Good point on Kentucky. Mark Stoops is a Youngstown guy. So are Bo Pelini and the guy at Missouri. 

Stoops' father was a longtime HS coach, so he has great connections.

The problem in Ohio is that even though OSU is the only big player (unless you count Cinci), half the coaches in the country are from Ohio and recruit there.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 11:58 AM

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We can't afford not to recruit Ohio and certainly do not want to ignore it when it produces so much talent in the heart of the Big Ten. OSU and Michigan cannot take them all and it is geographically close. Sure there is competition there. Same is true of Illinois and Michigan and, to a lesser extent, the rest of the Big Ten states.

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Posted: 8/12/2014 12:47 PM

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I would be glad to land both the Dowell twins, however it is the safety, with his measurables that I am most intrigued with and which I believe the Badgers need.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 1:55 PM

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For 4 star recruits, their offer sheets do not have many heavyweights. Overrated?
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Posted: 8/12/2014 1:59 PM

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BadRick wrote: I would be glad to land both the Dowell twins, however it is the safety, with his measurables that I am most intrigued with and which I believe the Badgers need.

ATH David Dowell, 6-1, 195, Lakewood (Ohio) St. Edward
Results: 4.73 40, 4.25 SH, 32.5’ PB, 32.7” VJ, 89.22 SPARQ

I would call these measurables solid, but not great by any means. Leo Musso had a SPARQ rating of 120. 

And for the sake of completeness...

RB Andrew Dowell, 6-1 ½, 203, Lakewood (Ohio) St. Edward
Results: 4.71 40, 4.15 SH, 35.0 ‘ PB, 33.6” VJ, 100.47 SPARQ

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Posted: 8/12/2014 2:04 PM

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>>We can't afford not to recruit Ohio and certainly do not want to ignore it when
it produces so much talent in the heart of the Big Ten.<<

Exactly.  Lots of good football talent there.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 2:30 PM

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Yes recruiting one as a runningback and the other as a safety.

Andrew is the total package when it comes to being a big time RB but his only real weakness is that his top end speed isn't elite.  He is very quick, very good with the cut back and runs very physical.  We have had many successful backs that weren't top end speedsters.

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