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New DJ Gillins highlights...

Posted: 10/27/2013 2:09 PM

New DJ Gillins highlights... 


www.hudl.com/athlete/2558112/highlights/90533999

The more I see, the more I like.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:14 PM

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Yet only ranked 61st QB in the country and also Chance Stewart is still ranked higher than him.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 5:59 PM

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duff8800 wrote: Yet only ranked 61st QB in the country and also Chance Stewart is still ranked higher than him.
All the other recruiting sites rate Gillins a 4* recruit, for whatever reason Scout hasn't moved him up in the rankings.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 6:31 PM

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Did he throw one of those touchdowns near the end left handed?
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Posted: 10/27/2013 6:35 PM

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Did he throw one of those touchdowns near the end left handed?

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No, he was on the receiving end of that pass.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 7:24 PM

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Hope he gets a fair chance to compete for the job next year
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Posted: 10/27/2013 8:10 PM

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Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?
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Posted: 10/27/2013 9:16 PM

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Is he enrolling at UW in January?  If he does he would be able to compete for starting QB.  If not he wouldn't have enough time to learn the playbook.
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Posted: 10/27/2013 11:09 PM

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Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?

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There is next to no chance of that happening. McEvoy had a full season at South Carolina and a year at JUCO heading into fall camp and he couldn't assimilate the play book quick enough to have any chance of contributing there this year. Unless there is a rash of season ending injuries in camp he'll redshirt and I'll be fine with it. It would be the best thing for him and the program to not have to play right away.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 7:52 AM

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How would a season at SCar and a season at JUCO help McEvoy learn the UW playbook?

I don't know if Gillins is enrollment early or not, but if so, seems like he could make a run at it. With his skill set, it's possible they design a few packages for him (like they planned to do with McEvoy this year before he got hurt).

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Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?

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There is next to no chance of that happening. McEvoy had a full season at South Carolina and a year at JUCO heading into fall camp and he couldn't assimilate the play book quick enough to have any chance of contributing there this year. Unless there is a rash of season ending injuries in camp he'll redshirt and I'll be fine with it. It would be the best thing for him and the program to not have to play right away.

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Posted: 10/28/2013 9:03 AM

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Ph3431 wrote: How would a season at SCar and a season at JUCO help McEvoy learn the UW playbook?

I don't know if Gillins is enrollment early or not, but if so, seems like he could make a run at it. With his skill set, it's possible they design a few packages for him (like they planned to do with McEvoy this year before he got hurt).

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Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?

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There is next to no chance of that happening. McEvoy had a full season at South Carolina and a year at JUCO heading into fall camp and he couldn't assimilate the play book quick enough to have any chance of contributing there this year. Unless there is a rash of season ending injuries in camp he'll redshirt and I'll be fine with it. It would be the best thing for him and the program to not have to play right away.

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Per Madison radio host, Phil Dawson, Gillin’s HS coach stated he would enroll early:

Phil Dawson @phildawsonradio

Coach Griffin said that QB commit DJ Gillins will graduate in DEC, enroll early with WI #Badgers

4:40 PM - 9 Jul 2013


This kid is uber talented, I dont want to put too much pressure on him but the only comparable hs QB recruit in recent years is Jameis Winston and Gillins may be a better natural runner than Winston is/was coming out of high school.

Has stepped up in competition this season transferring from a small private high school, Eagle's View, to a Jacksonville public school in Ribault and has continued to dominate despite the jump in opposing talent and transition to a new school. Has little to no offensive talent around him and is carrying a team that was 4-6 last season to a conference title and playoff berth...If not for the low level of competion in his early high school career and his ACL injury which caused him to miss last season, Im confident he would be the nation's consensus #1 Qb recruit. You cant teach the rare combination he has; size, speed, and arm strength. And unlike so many "dual threat" qbs his mechanics and footwork appear flawless.

Through eight games this season, Dj has completed 120 passes on 179 attempts (67%) for 1,837 yards, 16 touchdowns and just 4 picks; Adding 470 yards  and 6 tds on the ground and 1 td receiving. 


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Posted: 10/28/2013 9:10 AM

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Thank you for that info. That's great news! Can't wait to get this kid on campus.

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Ph3431 wrote: How would a season at SCar and a season at JUCO help McEvoy learn the UW playbook?

I don't know if Gillins is enrollment early or not, but if so, seems like he could make a run at it. With his skill set, it's possible they design a few packages for him (like they planned to do with McEvoy this year before he got hurt).

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Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?

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There is next to no chance of that happening. McEvoy had a full season at South Carolina and a year at JUCO heading into fall camp and he couldn't assimilate the play book quick enough to have any chance of contributing there this year. Unless there is a rash of season ending injuries in camp he'll redshirt and I'll be fine with it. It would be the best thing for him and the program to not have to play right away.

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Per Madison radio host, Phil Dawson, Gillin’s HS coach stated he would enroll early:

Phil Dawson @phildawsonradio

Coach Griffin said that QB commit DJ Gillins will graduate in DEC, enroll early with WI #Badgers

4:40 PM - 9 Jul 2013


This kid is uber talented, I dont want to put too much pressure on him but the only comparable hs QB recruit in recent years is Jameis Winston and Gillins may be a better natural runner than Winston is/was coming out of high school.

Has stepped up in competition this season transferring from a small private high school, Eagle's View, to a Jacksonville public school in Ribault and has continued to dominate despite the jump in opposing talent and transition to a new school. Has little to no offensive talent around him and is carrying a team that was 4-6 last season to a conference title and playoff berth...

Through eight games this season, Dj has completed 120 passes on 179 attempts (67%) for 1,837 yards, 16 touchdowns and just 4 picks; Adding 470 yards  and 6 tds on the ground and 1 td receiving.  



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Posted: 10/28/2013 10:15 AM

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brnichols19873 wrote:
Ph3431 wrote: How would a season at SCar and a season at JUCO help McEvoy learn the UW playbook?

I don't know if Gillins is enrollment early or not, but if so, seems like he could make a run at it. With his skill set, it's possible they design a few packages for him (like they planned to do with McEvoy this year before he got hurt).

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Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?

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There is next to no chance of that happening. McEvoy had a full season at South Carolina and a year at JUCO heading into fall camp and he couldn't assimilate the play book quick enough to have any chance of contributing there this year. Unless there is a rash of season ending injuries in camp he'll redshirt and I'll be fine with it. It would be the best thing for him and the program to not have to play right away.

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Per Madison radio host, Phil Dawson, Gillin’s HS coach stated he would enroll early:

Phil Dawson @phildawsonradio

Coach Griffin said that QB commit DJ Gillins will graduate in DEC, enroll early with WI #Badgers

4:40 PM - 9 Jul 2013


This kid is uber talented, I dont want to put too much pressure on him but the only comparable hs QB recruit in recent years is Jameis Winston and Gillins may be a better natural runner than Winston is/was coming out of high school.

Has stepped up in competition this season transferring from a small private high school, Eagle's View, to a Jacksonville public school in Ribault and has continued to dominate despite the jump in opposing talent and transition to a new school. Has little to no offensive talent around him and is carrying a team that was 4-6 last season to a conference title and playoff berth...If not for the low level of competion in his early high school career and his ACL injury which caused him to miss last season, Im confident he would be the nation's consensus #1 Qb recruit. You cant teach the rare combination he has; size, speed, and arm strength. And unlike so many "dual threat" qbs his mechanics and footwork appear flawless.

Through eight games this season, Dj has completed 120 passes on 179 attempts (67%) for 1,837 yards, 16 touchdowns and just 4 picks; Adding 470 yards  and 6 tds on the ground and 1 td receiving. 


Winston is a pretty generous comparison.  Gillins is a really good looking HS QB but IMO there's no way he's a #1 recruit even without the ACL.  His arm strength, while sufficient, isn't impressive enough to get the attention of the nation.  And the level of competition he's facing since his transfer still isn't elite.  And honestly I don't see an elite runner but definitely one who can use his running ability as a weapon.  In February 2012 he ran a SPARQ-timed 4.87 40 with a 4.66 shuttle at the Orlando NFTC combine.  I'd put him more in the overall category of an Anthony Jennings, with whom we had a shot last year but who ultimately picked LSU.  He was a top 15-20 QB on average across the different sites.  Still pretty nice but not a sure fire star either like Winston was

The thing I'm most intrigues about with DJ is that he was pursued as a fit for an Air Raid type scheme.  Not that I want to run that scheme by any means, but that some of the skills of Air Raid QB's are what we often lack in our QBs.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 10:30 AM

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I agree on the Air Raid part. They obviously had faith the kid could throw it around.

IMO, the biggest 'dual-threat’ advantage a guy like Gillins can provide is his ability to extend the play and make the defense play when he escapes the pocket. Not necessarily designed runs....but those back-breaking 10 yard scrambles on 3rd and 9.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 12:21 PM

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Gillins looks great.  What about the Olineman who moves his man 25 yards behind the play at 3:30ish
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Posted: 10/28/2013 1:26 PM

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How would a season at SCar and a season at JUCO help McEvoy learn the UW playbook?

I don't know if Gillins is enrollment early or not, but if so, seems like he could make a run at it. With his skill set, it's possible they design a few packages for him (like they planned to do with McEvoy this year before he got hurt).

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Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?

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There is next to no chance of that happening. McEvoy had a full season at South Carolina and a year at JUCO heading into fall camp and he couldn't assimilate the play book quick enough to have any chance of contributing there this year. Unless there is a rash of season ending injuries in camp he'll redshirt and I'll be fine with it. It would be the best thing for him and the program to not have to play right away.

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It would help him understand defenses, route trees, how to properly study film, what he needs to do in the weight room to withstand the rigors of B1G football, how to balance his social life with football, how to budget his time and a couple dozen other little things that freshmen have to learn the hard way. All McEvoy had to learn is the play book. There's a reason why true freshmen very rarely start for top 20 teams. The learning curve is too steep.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:00 PM

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Gillins will have ~7 months on campus, including practicing in the spring, before fall camp. McEvoy had ~2months.

Gillins will have plenty of time to get acclimated.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:05 PM

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Gillins will have ~7 months on campus, including practicing in the spring, before fall camp. McEvoy had ~2months.

Gillins will have plenty of time to get acclimated.

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There is more to the equation than just learning the play book. If you want to insist that after 7 months Gillins will be 100% ready to handle the rigors of life as a B1G quarterback it's your prerogative. I don't see it happening especially when the program has an experienced vet ahead of him.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:09 PM

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I don't think anyone has noticed this, but he is ambidextrous (1:15).
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:20 PM

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100% ready? When did I say that?

I said if he enrolls early (sounds like he is) he'll have an opportunity to make a run at it because of his skill set (dual-threat)...and could possibly have some packages designed specifically for him.

The rest is on you.

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Gillins will have ~7 months on campus, including practicing in the spring, before fall camp. McEvoy had ~2months.

Gillins will have plenty of time to get acclimated.

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There is more to the equation than just learning the play book. If you want to insist that after 7 months Gillins will be 100% ready to handle the rigors of life as a B1G quarterback it's your prerogative. I don't see it happening especially when the program has an experienced vet ahead of him.

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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:21 PM

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I don't think anyone has noticed this, but he is ambidextrous (1:15).

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And fast enough to catch that touchdown pass from himself.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:29 PM

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Crazy that that coach would put his star QB who is coming off an ACL tear out into the route on a jump ball in the end zone.  Unbelievable.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 2:34 PM

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NM, they looked like the same player. Why was he a receiver? Isn't he coming off ACL surgery? I actually had a QB in HS that could throw with both arms, pretty cool sight.

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Posted: 10/28/2013 3:35 PM

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Kilgore309 wrote:
brnichols19873 wrote:
Ph3431 wrote: How would a season at SCar and a season at JUCO help McEvoy learn the UW playbook?

I don't know if Gillins is enrollment early or not, but if so, seems like he could make a run at it. With his skill set, it's possible they design a few packages for him (like they planned to do with McEvoy this year before he got hurt).

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--- Badgers919 wrote:

Is there any semblance of doubt that if he's playing the best in camp, he will be?

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There is next to no chance of that happening. McEvoy had a full season at South Carolina and a year at JUCO heading into fall camp and he couldn't assimilate the play book quick enough to have any chance of contributing there this year. Unless there is a rash of season ending injuries in camp he'll redshirt and I'll be fine with it. It would be the best thing for him and the program to not have to play right away.

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Per Madison radio host, Phil Dawson, Gillin’s HS coach stated he would enroll early:

Phil Dawson @phildawsonradio

Coach Griffin said that QB commit DJ Gillins will graduate in DEC, enroll early with WI #Badgers

4:40 PM - 9 Jul 2013


This kid is uber talented, I dont want to put too much pressure on him but the only comparable hs QB recruit in recent years is Jameis Winston and Gillins may be a better natural runner than Winston is/was coming out of high school.

Has stepped up in competition this season transferring from a small private high school, Eagle's View, to a Jacksonville public school in Ribault and has continued to dominate despite the jump in opposing talent and transition to a new school. Has little to no offensive talent around him and is carrying a team that was 4-6 last season to a conference title and playoff berth...If not for the low level of competion in his early high school career and his ACL injury which caused him to miss last season, Im confident he would be the nation's consensus #1 Qb recruit. You cant teach the rare combination he has; size, speed, and arm strength. And unlike so many "dual threat" qbs his mechanics and footwork appear flawless.

Through eight games this season, Dj has completed 120 passes on 179 attempts (67%) for 1,837 yards, 16 touchdowns and just 4 picks; Adding 470 yards  and 6 tds on the ground and 1 td receiving. 


Winston is a pretty generous comparison.  Gillins is a really good looking HS QB but IMO there's no way he's a #1 recruit even without the ACL.  His arm strength, while sufficient, isn't impressive enough to get the attention of the nation.  And the level of competition he's facing since his transfer still isn't elite.  And honestly I don't see an elite runner but definitely one who can use his running ability as a weapon.  In February 2012 he ran a SPARQ-timed 4.87 40 with a 4.66 shuttle at the Orlando NFTC combine.  I'd put him more in the overall category of an Anthony Jennings, with whom we had a shot last year but who ultimately picked LSU.  He was a top 15-20 QB on average across the different sites.  Still pretty nice but not a sure fire star either like Winston was

The thing I'm most intrigues about with DJ is that he was pursued as a fit for an Air Raid type scheme.  Not that I want to run that scheme by any means, but that some of the skills of Air Raid QB's are what we often lack in our QBs.

I know that this sounds like cliché homerism, but with his combination of size, athleticism and throwing ability there really are no comparable prospects in recent classes outside f Winston. I understand the Anthony Jennings comparison but Jennings is three inches shorter and lacks the explosion and arm talent that Gillins displays. If you take a look back at the reviews following the 2012 Atlanta Elite 11 combine which both Jennings and Gillins partook, you will see that Gillins arm was rated the best in camp. This is despite Gillins being a year younger than Jennings…

A 247 sports article on the top 10 performers at the Atlanta Elite 11 Showcase in March 2012 which included top qbs from both the 2013 & 2014 classes:
"1- DJ Gillins, Jacksonville (Fla.) Eagle’s View Academy (Class of 2014) 
The 6-foot-3, 180-pound Class of 2014 prospect was completely unknown on a national level prior to the event. He had the best feet of any quarterback prospect in any class at the event and proved that he could make all of the throws throughout the drills. What we saw during the event, Gillins more than backs up on film as a sophomore. Vanderbilt, Penn State, Wake Forest and others have shown early interest. Florida State was his favorite program growing up. Look for Gillins to be ranked highly when various Class of 2014 lists are released in the near future."

If your still not convinced, compare the most recent Gillins clip to a short version of Jennings Senior year highlights and you will see that Jennings lacks the explosiveness and agility that Gillins possesses as a runner and the deep ball.

Anthony Jennings 2012 Senior Highlights > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSPJVwjv7Ro

Gillins Game highlight vs Paxon October 24th> http://www.hudl.com/athlete/25...lights/90533999

 

As for the critique of Gillins arm strength, the last play in that clip which begins a 1:49 shows a player with exceptional arm strength, that’s a 50 yard pass on a rope off his back foot while being hit by multiple defenders. 

 

That is ELITE arm talent for any player, especially one with exceptional athletic ability, while you only show his shuttle and 40 time at the 2012 Orlando combine, you fail to mention his ELITE results in the last two events; the Power Ball throw in which he put up the 3rd highest number at the combine regardless of position- 40.5 and his vertical jump, which was the second highest among QBs at 35.6 inches. Both of these numbers are indicative of a truly explosive athlete and are significantly more important to the qb position than 40 or shuttle. Oh and keep in mind that he posted these ELITE numbers nearly 2 years ago as a 16 year old….

 

**His competition this season at Ribault is light years ahead of what it was in the past and several games are against ELITE talent no matter your definition. At Eagle’s View Gillins played in class 2A, Florida’s smallest classification for schools with enrollment under 280. Thus, their schedule is made up entirely of schools with rosters of less than 40 players, most completely void of D1 talent. During his time at the school, they played only one opponent ranked in the State’s top 200; 2011 North Florida Christian which had 2 d1 commits.

 

At Ribault, Gillins is now competing in Class 5A (schools with an enrollment of 1,100-1580). The Ribault 2013 schedule features four teams ranked in the top 150 in the state, each with multiple d1 players;

-Week 1 First Coast- currently ranked #33 in the state, 7 division 1 verbal commits on the 2013 roster (all committed to BCS conference schools). Led by consensus 4 star LB Sherrod Pittman, a South Carolina commit.

-Week 3 Baker County-Currently ranked #149 in the state, has 2 d1 commits, led by 2015 consensus 5 star DT Cece Jefferson.  

-Week 5 Bishop Kenny-Currently ranked #79 in the state, has 2 d1 commits.

-Week 10 opponent, Raines- Currently ranked #38, has 4 d1 BCS verbal commits on the roster.  

In addition, this Ribault team is likely to meet another highly ranked, talented team at some point in the playoffs.

***It depends on your definition of “elite” competition but I would call both First Coast and Raines are “elite” teams…Either way the competition is a giant leap from what he was playing against in prior years.

 

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Posted: 10/28/2013 3:50 PM

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Look, if his arm is great I'd be thrilled.  It looks fairly average on most of his throws.  Maybe he just really dials it back if the throw doesn't call for it.  I think his physical gifts will be a lot more impressive after putting on about 20 pounds.  I'm very excited to see him in the spring.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 4:22 PM

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The kid is a stud any way you slice it.  Love that he's on board for the future of our program.  The greatness of a program lives and dies with it's QB play and we are setting up for greatness.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 6:43 PM

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The kid that offers the best chance to win will start...doesn't mean he needs to have the full grasp of the offense. Ludwig can give him a simple game plan that will win games and put his skills to use, now whether that's Joel, Bart or DJ remains to be seen. Next spring there should be a pretty darn good battle with those 3, IMO Tanner is destined for WR.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 7:03 PM

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panama74 wrote: Hope he gets a fair chance to compete for the job next year
He doesn't nearly throw well enough yet.

He's more likely to play WR next year than QB.
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Posted: 10/28/2013 7:52 PM

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That's why it's good he's enrolling early. He'll have ~7 months in the program before fall camp,

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panama74 wrote: Hope he gets a fair chance to compete for the job next year
He doesn't nearly throw well enough yet.

He's more likely to play WR next year than QB.

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Posted: 10/28/2013 8:31 PM

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Extremely excited after watching a premier athlete at the QB position, appears to have the potential to be a difference maker rather than a game manager. We all know this staff is aching for a dual threat to win this this position, hopefully he can develop into a difference maker very quickly.
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