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I will give GA a pass this season

Posted: 2/6/2013 4:55 PM

I will give GA a pass this season 


He came in so late it was going to be tough to recruit anyways.

I am happy with the QB TM but otherwise getting a couple of extra guys he was recruiting at USU isnt that awesome.

I hope we dont always recruit USU type players.

Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.

I understand the difficulties GA had but I dont find this as a great start for him.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:01 PM

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Badgerbengal wrote: He came in so late it was going to be tough to recruit anyways.

I am happy with the QB TM but otherwise getting a couple of extra guys he was recruiting at USU isnt that awesome.

I hope we dont always recruit USU type players.

Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.

I understand the difficulties GA had but I dont find this as a great start for him.
He added speed which is something the previous staff was unable to do.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:08 PM

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jajulka wrote:
Badgerbengal wrote: He came in so late it was going to be tough to recruit anyways.

I am happy with the QB TM but otherwise getting a couple of extra guys he was recruiting at USU isnt that awesome.

I hope we dont always recruit USU type players.

Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.

I understand the difficulties GA had but I dont find this as a great start for him.
He added speed which is something the previous staff was unable to do.
not unable, more so as unwilling. old staff never went the juco route. and that's pretty much where we got our speed from in this class. sure some of the highschool seniors are looking pretty good, but those were all from the old staff.


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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:13 PM

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I think GA did very well, regardless of circumstances.  There are guys in this class that will keep us smiling for years to come, and at least two of them will be guys you aren't high on today.  Clements(barring injury) is the real deal and will have his place in an  unbroken lineage of national-caliber tailbacks at Wisconsin.  We got DE/LBs in state and they look under-rated in the star system to me. Borland will show them how rushing the QB is done.  We got a QB that, though outside the mold of Wisconsin recruits generally, was in demand by the top programs( outside 'Bama).
And regardless of how you feel about GA as a 'first months of his tenure' recruiter,he's  been a winner everywhere, and getting major compliments from every quarter that matters, Wisconsin HS coaches to the fickle state and national media.  It doesn't seem like a honeymoon thing eiteher.
Everybody is impressed with GA thus far.
Except you.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:14 PM

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I'm sure GA will be relieved.

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He came in so late it was going to be tough to recruit anyways.

I am happy with the QB TM but otherwise getting a couple of extra guys he was recruiting at USU isnt that awesome.

I hope we dont always recruit USU type players.

Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.

I understand the difficulties GA had but I dont find this as a great start for him.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:17 PM

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Agreed.

Who you didn't get isn't likely to bust your recruiting class. Having the guys you got not develop onto players? That's a problem.

BB's best class on paper had only moderate success on the field. Time will tell.

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I think GA did very well, regardless of circumstances.  There are guys in this class that will keep us smiling for years to come, and at least two of them will be guys you aren't high on today.  Clements(barring injury) is the real deal and will have his place in an  unbroken lineage of national-caliber tailbacks at Wisconsin.  We got DE/LBs in state and they look under-rated in the star system to me. Borland will show them how rushing the QB is done.  We got a QB that, though outside the mold of Wisconsin recruits generally, was in demand by the top programs( outside 'Bama).
And regardless of how you feel about GA as a 'first months of his tenure' recruiter,he's  been a winner everywhere, and getting major compliments from every quarter that matters, Wisconsin HS coaches to the fickle state and national media.  It doesn't seem like a honeymoon thing eiteher.
Everybody is impressed with GA thus far.
Except you.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:25 PM

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GA did a bang up job, the amount of defectors could have been a lot worse.  To note, he added players in a short timeframe to plug those holes where kids did leave.  BA and holdover staff gets props for helping keep this class together before GA came.  Under the circumstances he gets a A this recruiting cycle imo.  And Badgerbengal I think you need to cut him some slack and see what he does with next year's class before you run off at the keyboard.
Ph3431 wrote: Agreed.

Who you didn't get isn't likely to bust your recruiting class. Having the guys you got not develop onto players? That's a problem.

BB's best class on paper had only moderate success on the field. Time will tell.

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I think GA did very well, regardless of circumstances.  There are guys in this class that will keep us smiling for years to come, and at least two of them will be guys you aren't high on today.  Clements(barring injury) is the real deal and will have his place in an  unbroken lineage of national-caliber tailbacks at Wisconsin.  We got DE/LBs in state and they look under-rated in the star system to me. Borland will show them how rushing the QB is done.  We got a QB that, though outside the mold of Wisconsin recruits generally, was in demand by the top programs( outside 'Bama).
And regardless of how you feel about GA as a 'first months of his tenure' recruiter,he's  been a winner everywhere, and getting major compliments from every quarter that matters, Wisconsin HS coaches to the fickle state and national media.  It doesn't seem like a honeymoon thing eiteher.
Everybody is impressed with GA thus far.
Except you.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:35 PM

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Bucky4077  + 100

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:38 PM

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I did cut GA some slack if you read my post and I hope he is the best head coach and recruiter the Badgers ever had but I just cant say I think this was such an unbelievable start for a head coach that many on here seem to think it is.

Also isnt a college football message board ment for running off at the keyboard and stating our opinions? It may be different than the majority on here and others have the right to agree or disagree but thats the fun of this place.
SDBadger59 wrote: GA did a bang up job, the amount of defectors could have been a lot worse.  To note, he added players in a short timeframe to plug those holes where kids did leave.  BA and holdover staff gets props for helping keep this class together before GA came.  Under the circumstances he gets a A this recruiting cycle imo.  And Badgerbengal I think you need to cut him some slack and see what he does with next year's class before you run off at the keyboard.
Ph3431 wrote: Agreed.

Who you didn't get isn't likely to bust your recruiting class. Having the guys you got not develop onto players? That's a problem.

BB's best class on paper had only moderate success on the field. Time will tell.

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I think GA did very well, regardless of circumstances.  There are guys in this class that will keep us smiling for years to come, and at least two of them will be guys you aren't high on today.  Clements(barring injury) is the real deal and will have his place in an  unbroken lineage of national-caliber tailbacks at Wisconsin.  We got DE/LBs in state and they look under-rated in the star system to me. Borland will show them how rushing the QB is done.  We got a QB that, though outside the mold of Wisconsin recruits generally, was in demand by the top programs( outside 'Bama).
And regardless of how you feel about GA as a 'first months of his tenure' recruiter,he's  been a winner everywhere, and getting major compliments from every quarter that matters, Wisconsin HS coaches to the fickle state and national media.  It doesn't seem like a honeymoon thing eiteher.
Everybody is impressed with GA thus far.
Except you.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:53 PM

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Badgerbengal wrote: 

Also isnt a college football message board ment for running off at the keyboard and stating our opinions?


Perhaps it was the self-important subject line that engendered the reaction?noidea
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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:54 PM

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No, I don't think the point of this message board is to povide a outlet for you to write off guys like Vercher, Washington, and Jacobs without seeing them play...or 'graciously' give someone in the coaching profession a pass...when I'm guessing your credentials start and end with 'armchair coach/QB.'

My opinion is that your opinion is ridiculous. This is fun.

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I did cut GA some slack if you read my post and I hope he is the best head coach and recruiter the Badgers ever had but I just cant say I think this was such an unbelievable start for a head coach that many on here seem to think it is.

Also isnt a college football message board ment for running off at the keyboard and stating our opinions? It may be different than the majority on here and others have the right to agree or disagree but thats the fun of this place.
SDBadger59 wrote: GA did a bang up job, the amount of defectors could have been a lot worse.  To note, he added players in a short timeframe to plug those holes where kids did leave.  BA and holdover staff gets props for helping keep this class together before GA came.  Under the circumstances he gets a A this recruiting cycle imo.  And Badgerbengal I think you need to cut him some slack and see what he does with next year's class before you run off at the keyboard.
Ph3431 wrote: Agreed.

Who you didn't get isn't likely to bust your recruiting class. Having the guys you got not develop onto players? That's a problem.

BB's best class on paper had only moderate success on the field. Time will tell.

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I think GA did very well, regardless of circumstances.  There are guys in this class that will keep us smiling for years to come, and at least two of them will be guys you aren't high on today.  Clements(barring injury) is the real deal and will have his place in an  unbroken lineage of national-caliber tailbacks at Wisconsin.  We got DE/LBs in state and they look under-rated in the star system to me. Borland will show them how rushing the QB is done.  We got a QB that, though outside the mold of Wisconsin recruits generally, was in demand by the top programs( outside 'Bama).
And regardless of how you feel about GA as a 'first months of his tenure' recruiter,he's  been a winner everywhere, and getting major compliments from every quarter that matters, Wisconsin HS coaches to the fickle state and national media.  It doesn't seem like a honeymoon thing eiteher.
Everybody is impressed with GA thus far.
Except you.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 5:59 PM

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I guess you are right they will all probably be All Americans. Your opinion is definately more valid than anyone else.
Ph3431 wrote: No, I don't think the point of this message board is to povide a outlet for you to write off guys like Vercher, Washington, and Jacobs without seeing them play.

My opinion is that your opinion is ridiculous. This is fun.

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I did cut GA some slack if you read my post and I hope he is the best head coach and recruiter the Badgers ever had but I just cant say I think this was such an unbelievable start for a head coach that many on here seem to think it is.

Also isnt a college football message board ment for running off at the keyboard and stating our opinions? It may be different than the majority on here and others have the right to agree or disagree but thats the fun of this place.
SDBadger59 wrote: GA did a bang up job, the amount of defectors could have been a lot worse.  To note, he added players in a short timeframe to plug those holes where kids did leave.  BA and holdover staff gets props for helping keep this class together before GA came.  Under the circumstances he gets a A this recruiting cycle imo.  And Badgerbengal I think you need to cut him some slack and see what he does with next year's class before you run off at the keyboard.
Ph3431 wrote: Agreed.

Who you didn't get isn't likely to bust your recruiting class. Having the guys you got not develop onto players? That's a problem.

BB's best class on paper had only moderate success on the field. Time will tell.

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I think GA did very well, regardless of circumstances.  There are guys in this class that will keep us smiling for years to come, and at least two of them will be guys you aren't high on today.  Clements(barring injury) is the real deal and will have his place in an  unbroken lineage of national-caliber tailbacks at Wisconsin.  We got DE/LBs in state and they look under-rated in the star system to me. Borland will show them how rushing the QB is done.  We got a QB that, though outside the mold of Wisconsin recruits generally, was in demand by the top programs( outside 'Bama).
And regardless of how you feel about GA as a 'first months of his tenure' recruiter,he's  been a winner everywhere, and getting major compliments from every quarter that matters, Wisconsin HS coaches to the fickle state and national media.  It doesn't seem like a honeymoon thing eiteher.
Everybody is impressed with GA thus far.
Except you.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:00 PM

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Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.


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Simply not true. Foreman was the only really big loss. Retaining all but one of Wisconsin's top commits is very impressive imo.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:00 PM

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BadgerBengal, the problem with your post is that, while you have every right to wallow in your disappointment, you don't say what you expected? What should Andersen have done in his six weeks to earn your praise and undying affection?

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:03 PM

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Give me a break.  This staff did a great job under the circumstances.  GA's first two real recruiting classes will make everyone forget all about this year, I'd bet big money on that.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:05 PM

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TheNewRed wrote: BadgerBengal, the problem with your post is that, while you have every right to wallow in your disappointment, you don't say what you expected? What should Andersen have done in his six weeks to earn your praise and undying affection?
I stated that I just dont see that keeping most of the recruits and picking up a couple of JC guys is all that amazing. I said I understand the complications with this recruiting year but some posters seem to think this was just one of the best all time jobs by a new head coach. Indiana was ranked ahead of the Badgers in recruiting this year.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:06 PM

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Badgerbengal wrote: He came in so late it was going to be tough to recruit anyways.

I am happy with the QB TM but otherwise getting a couple of extra guys he was recruiting at USU isnt that awesome.

I hope we dont always recruit USU type players.

Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.

I understand the difficulties GA had but I dont find this as a great start for him.
That is factually inaccurate.

One guy is viewed as a loss (Ball). They knew keeping Foreman would take a miracle when Buh left.

What do you know about the class in general and, specifically, about the four kids added by the new assistants?
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:07 PM

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What's there to forget? McEvoy and Vercher might start, James could be an early contributor, and Clement looks promising down the road. There is a lot of promise in this class.

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Give me a break.  This staff did a great job under the circumstances.  GA's first two real recruiting classes will make everyone forget all about this year, I'd bet big money on that.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:11 PM

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The Badgers had a pretty solid class to begin with. Keeping the recruits kept a solid class together. The 2 JUCO could start next year...when's the last time we got that from a recruiting class?

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TheNewRed wrote: BadgerBengal, the problem with your post is that, while you have every right to wallow in your disappointment, you don't say what you expected? What should Andersen have done in his six weeks to earn your praise and undying affection?
I stated that I just dont see that keeping most of the recruits and picking up a couple of JC guys is all that amazing. I said I understand the complications with this recruiting year but some posters seem to think this was just one of the best all time jobs by a new head coach. Indiana was ranked ahead of the Badgers in recruiting this year.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:11 PM

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Very pleased with this class,

Locked up wis and loaded up on speedy db's with big time offers. Juco qb was a huge get, why? situational this year but in 2014, GA will institute his brand of O as its a complete reload in front 7 and at wr/HB, UW wil be be a 7-8 win team in 2014 imo.  We go to klein type playmaking qb with great speed at tb in gordon/jackson

2013? he would be crazy to make any major changes, stave can win 10 as osu is RIDICULOULSy overrated given its major losses on d. UW will crush NW at home and goes 2-1 in road games at iowa, OSu and ASU.

BTW, If Matt Hubleys was hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and played in Cleveland(I laughed when he was rated at 2 stars and fans already had him at lbrolleyes) gee, wonder whyrolleyes) we would be drooling as he might be the 2nd fastest kid in this class and will be a 6'1ish 215lbs teeth rattling SS in 2 years. Next to Brookins in 3 years. that is going to be one hell of a safety duo. Shelton, defines lockdown............ washington? not sure as speed, while imporant can be overrated if he lacks feet but all indications are he can cover.

Ball? he was an OLB the minute he stepped into the 2014 3 deep. Given we have many lbs incoming annd/or young, I dont think its a big loss as I think we are deeper at LB than many think from 2014-17ish

Bielgel, dooley, ramesh, schobert, landisch, etc give us some terrific young talent at lb for 3-5 years. All are big and/or can really run
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:14 PM

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FallacyXIII wrote:
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Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.


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Simply not true. Foreman was the only really big loss. Retaining all but one of Wisconsin's top commits is very impressive imo.
You beat me to it.  They lost Foreman, which stinks, but wasn't unexpected after the coaching change.  Other than that, they lost Ball.  Also a bummer, but he is far from a can't-miss type guy, and picked up Vercher in his place.  Singleton had nothing to do with the staff--he wasn't coming here anymore regardless of who was coaching this year.  

On the other hand, they picked up Washington, who is, right now, the fastest player on the team.  He kept a 4* Ohio wide receiver in Wheelwright.  He fought off Oregon for the #1 player in the state, Alec James.  He kept one of the highest rated running backs we've ever signed who had a ton of high-profile offers.  He kept Jack Keeler, who got offers from BIG TIME programs like Ohio State after BB left.   He kept Garrett Dooley, who was courted by Penn State after the coaching change.  He signed the #1 JUCO quarterback in the nation, a big strong dual threat player.  

I don't really know what more we could ask for.  

Next season's class is where we can really start judging his recruiting on his own.  But this season he did a very nice job keeping things together and adding a few pieces with only a month and a half to work (with some of that coming during the "dead" period).   #1a and 1b on the priority list for this next class is safety and DT, I think.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:19 PM

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Badgerbengal wrote: He came in so late it was going to be tough to recruit anyways.

I am happy with the QB TM but otherwise getting a couple of extra guys he was recruiting at USU isnt that awesome.

I hope we dont always recruit USU type players.

Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.

I understand the difficulties GA had but I dont find this as a great start for him.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:24 PM

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CloudsOfDust wrote:
FallacyXIII wrote:
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Wisconsin lost some of the very best recruits it had commited.


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Simply not true. Foreman was the only really big loss. Retaining all but one of Wisconsin's top commits is very impressive imo.
You beat me to it.  They lost Foreman, which stinks, but wasn't unexpected after the coaching change.  Other than that, they lost Ball.  Also a bummer, but he is far from a can't-miss type guy, and picked up Vercher in his place.  Singleton had nothing to do with the staff--he wasn't coming here anymore regardless of who was coaching this year.  

On the other hand, they picked up Washington, who is, right now, the fastest player on the team.  He kept a 4* Ohio wide receiver in Wheelwright.  He fought off Oregon for the #1 player in the state, Alec James.  He kept one of the highest rated running backs we've ever signed who had a ton of high-profile offers.  He kept Jack Keeler, who got offers from BIG TIME programs like Ohio State after BB left.   He kept Garrett Dooley, who was courted by Penn State after the coaching change.  He signed the #1 JUCO quarterback in the nation, a big strong dual threat player.  

I don't really know what more we could ask for.  

Next season's class is where we can really start judging his recruiting on his own.  But this season he did a very nice job keeping things together and adding a few pieces with only a month and a half to work (with some of that coming during the "dead" period).   #1a and 1b on the priority list for this next class is safety and DT, I think.
And this is why Badgerbengal's opinion is invalid.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:25 PM

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BB closed 5-6 high impact guys in last 4 days.  Wow!  I can't remember when we "closed" 4*+ players during LOI week.  I'm sure someone out there will find 1 example, but jeez, 5-6 in one week.

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:28 PM

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Considering two staff turnovers in under two years and how late GA's staff came in on this cycle, I'm thrilled with this class. We can't really start to judge GA's staff until next cycle. And that's even with a grain of salt, because it really takes 2-3 years to begin to judge a class. Heck, you could even argue four years, since some of the fourth year starters over the years have come on to be key players that fourth year.

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NOVAMAN wrote: BB closed 5-6 high impact guys in last 4 days.  Wow!  I can't remember when we "closed" 4*+ players during LOI week.  I'm sure someone out there will find 1 example, but jeez, 5-6 in one week.

BB can really turn it on. Ifonly he could coachdisbelief
He got Collins and Kirkland, two VERY good gets, but I wouldn't consider the other guys "high impact" anymore than the normal caliber we sign...  The 58th rated QB, 93rd rated RB, and an unranked 2* receiver...
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:33 PM

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Badgerbengal wrote:
TheNewRed wrote: BadgerBengal, the problem with your post is that, while you have every right to wallow in your disappointment, you don't say what you expected? What should Andersen have done in his six weeks to earn your praise and undying affection?
I stated that I just dont see that keeping most of the recruits and picking up a couple of JC guys is all that amazing. I said I understand the complications with this recruiting year but some posters seem to think this was just one of the best all time jobs by a new head coach. Indiana was ranked ahead of the Badgers in recruiting this year.
Nope.  Not sure where you come by this idea.

Here's a pertinant question, IMO.  Had Bret stayed and the class basically been made up essentially as it is now, but without a QB and with a couple of different DBs, would that have been a disappointing effort as well? 

Bottom line is that had Bret stayed the current stars average of "3.0" that is the ranking of this incoming group as of right now would have been essentially within a tenth of what it is right now.  Would you have said that Bret's recruiting effort this year was disappointing?

Did GA knock it out of the park, no, but given that the final class make-up in terms of quality is essentially no different than it would have been had Bret stayed I find his results this year to be entirely adequate and I expect nothing more for now.  Next year, we'll be able to guage his recruiting abilities more thoroughly.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:43 PM

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Badgerbengal wrote:
TheNewRed wrote: BadgerBengal, the problem with your post is that, while you have every right to wallow in your disappointment, you don't say what you expected? What should Andersen have done in his six weeks to earn your praise and undying affection?
I stated that I just dont see that keeping most of the recruits and picking up a couple of JC guys is all that amazing. I said I understand the complications with this recruiting year but some posters seem to think this was just one of the best all time jobs by a new head coach. Indiana was ranked ahead of the Badgers in recruiting this year.
Nice job side stepping a direct - and very pertinent - question ohlord

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Posted: 2/6/2013 6:58 PM

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Given Wisconsin's geographical recruiting limitations and the type of program it is, momentum, stability, and building relationships over time are more important than at some other places.  I think Andersen will do well, and am very excited about the hire.  But we will need to give Andersen at least a couple of years before some of his recruiting skills will really manifest themselves, IMO.  Recruits who he is only beginning to build relationships with now are guys who will sugn on the dotted line years from now.

All things considered, he did a great job holding the class together.  Foreman was huge loss, but there was little GA could do.
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Posted: 2/6/2013 7:05 PM

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Funny you should bring up Bielema "if he had stayed" and recruiting in the same breath!

Arguably, Bielema's "best" class was 2008 if you look at stars and average rankings.  How did that turn out?  Not so well in my opinion if you look at their won/loss record in 2012.

If Bielema had remained in Madison, this class would be decidedly disappointing.  There were some very flashy flirtations with highly-ranked prospects at positions of need (DL, DBs and QB) that became equally flashy no-shows.  The most damning misses were the QBs Olson,  Bailey, Stanton (plus several others), TE Natter and DL Lapham.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Andersen landed a highly rated QB against top-level AQ competition and significantly bolstered the DB ranks in this class while managing to prevent any major defections from the previous regime's recruiting.  He did the while taking over a program and territory where he had almost zero familiarity at the worst possible timing for a coaching change, coming in the week before Christmas while also assembling a staff.  I rank that as a very impressive performance.  Despite Bielema's poor exit timing where we could have expected much worse.

GullrockGeorge wrote:
Badgerbengal wrote:
TheNewRed wrote: BadgerBengal, the problem with your post is that, while you have every right to wallow in your disappointment, you don't say what you expected? What should Andersen have done in his six weeks to earn your praise and undying affection?
I stated that I just dont see that keeping most of the recruits and picking up a couple of JC guys is all that amazing. I said I understand the complications with this recruiting year but some posters seem to think this was just one of the best all time jobs by a new head coach. Indiana was ranked ahead of the Badgers in recruiting this year.
Nope.  Not sure where you come by this idea.

Here's a pertinant question, IMO.  Had Bret stayed and the class basically been made up essentially as it is now, but without a QB and with a couple of different DBs, would that have been a disappointing effort as well? 

Bottom line is that had Bret stayed the current stars average of "3.0" that is the ranking of this incoming group as of right now would have been essentially within a tenth of what it is right now.  Would you have said that Bret's recruiting effort this year was disappointing?

Did GA knock it out of the park, no, but given that the final class make-up in terms of quality is essentially no different than it would have been had Bret stayed I find his results this year to be entirely adequate and I expect nothing more for now.  Next year, we'll be able to guage his recruiting abilities more thoroughly.

Last edited 2/6/2013 7:06 PM by TheNewRed

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