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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:42 AM

Stave hurt 


Adam Rittenberg @ ESPNRittenberg 2m

Wisconsin announces QB Joel Stave to miss undetermined amount of time. Shoulder problems flaring up. Not improving enough to play.

Joe Schad @ schadjoe 2m

Bad timing. Wisconsin announces Joel Stave (shoulder) to be shut down indefinitely.

Well, that answers that...

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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:51 AM

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Well, this seems like bad timing for those 100% set on revolt.

Unless it's all part of the big coverup conspiracy. Time to get the tinfoil hats out...
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:24 AM

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Please, Stave was obviously injured, he was rested in Spring practice and obviously the problem didn't go away.
Based on his other comments GA didn't want LSU to know whom to prepare for, either the passer or the runner and GA got himself in trouble with the fans, apparently he had no choice.

It ALWAYS made sense to start Stave if he was healthy.

If Stave played poorly and lost, everyone is onboard for the switch, if Stave played well and lost, he could still  phase in Tanner because of the mobility issue, if Stave played well and he won, we're a top 10 program in the rankings and everyone is crazy happy.
All the results starting Stave were good for GA with limited second guessing.
Starting Tanner and he plays poorly and we lose and we're seeing the meltdown of rumor, dissatisfaction and innuendo.
Everything pointed to Stave starting unless he was injured, which is why I suggested he probably was.

Last edited 9/2/2014 11:25 AM by ajmadison

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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:32 AM

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ajmadison wrote: Please, Stave was obviously injured, he was rested in Spring practice and obviously the problem didn't go away.
Based on his other comments GA didn't want LSU to know whom to prepare for, either the passer or the runner and GA got himself in trouble with the fans, apparently he had no choice.

It ALWAYS made sense to start Stave if he was healthy.

If Stave played poorly and lost, everyone is onboard for the switch, if Stave played well and lost, he could still  phase in Tanner because of the mobility issue, if Stave played well and he won, we're a top 10 program in the rankings and everyone is crazy happy.
All the results starting Stave were good for GA with limited second guessing.
Starting Tanner and he plays poorly and we lose and we're seeing the meltdown of rumor, dissatisfaction and innuendo.
Everything pointed to Stave starting unless he was injured, which is why I suggested he probably was.
While I agree with most of your post why not come clean at the post game presser?
It would have diffused the whole situation.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:36 AM

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baldbadgerlover wrote:
 
While I agree with most of your post why not come clean at the post game presser?
It would have diffused the whole situation.
Let's see, GA just finished a game where his team was leading only to lose 28-24. He was shell shocked. The last thing you are even remotely thinking about is Stave's injury.
SRS80 wrote: Arizona outclassing Wisconsin. Better athletes. Bo is losing his cool and so is the team. Zona should be up 10 at least. They will win by a comfortable margin though.

Said during Elite Eight Game UW won 64-63.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:38 AM

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If he really wanted to screw with LSU he should've named Stave starter and announced injury day of.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:39 AM

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Hmmm what about Mondays presser where he said stave was going to play and no practice Monday and now he's out? GA has done an awful job at handling this whole situation.

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 9/2/2014 12:35 PM

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Bottom line is we almost beat a top SEC team without a QB and passing game, with a thin team at a lot of positions, thanks to the recruiting issues that occurred when Chryst left and BB left, not to mention all the "academic" losses in last years class.
GA may still be learning the difference between small program coaching and large program coaching.
I wouldn't chase him away so soon.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:16 PM

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What about the part where you said there wasn't a practice on Monday....when there was in fact, a practice on Monday.

Actually, you've done an awful job handling this situation.

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Hmmm what about Mondays presser where he said stave was going to play and no practice Monday and now he's out? GA has done an awful job at handling this whole situation.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:17 PM

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Jesus H. We actually agree.

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Please, Stave was obviously injured, he was rested in Spring practice and obviously the problem didn't go away.
Based on his other comments GA didn't want LSU to know whom to prepare for, either the passer or the runner and GA got himself in trouble with the fans, apparently he had no choice.

It ALWAYS made sense to start Stave if he was healthy.

If Stave played poorly and lost, everyone is onboard for the switch, if Stave played well and lost, he could still  phase in Tanner because of the mobility issue, if Stave played well and he won, we're a top 10 program in the rankings and everyone is crazy happy.
All the results starting Stave were good for GA with limited second guessing.
Starting Tanner and he plays poorly and we lose and we're seeing the meltdown of rumor, dissatisfaction and innuendo.
Everything pointed to Stave starting unless he was injured, which is why I suggested he probably was.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:21 PM

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Thank god we got 3 scrub teams up next, bc I'm sure every coach in America seen they just have to put 8-9 guys in the box and they have a good chance at shutting us down.

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:23 PM

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Following the Penn St blue print I guess.


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Thank god we got 3 scrub teams up next, bc I'm sure every coach in America seen they just have to put 8-9 guys in the box and they have a good chance at shutting us down.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:30 PM

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Shall we compare the two QB's since that's what your sorry self is trying to do without saying it:
Stave-56%, 340 yards passing with 3 Tds and 3 ints against PSU.
Tanner-33% 50 yards 0 tds with 2 ints...we could only pray that Tanner can come close to that. Nice try, but when people stacked the box last year Joel could actually complete a pass, dumbass


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Following the Penn St blue print I guess.


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Thank god we got 3 scrub teams up next, bc I'm sure every coach in America seen they just have to put 8-9 guys in the box and they have a good chance at shutting us down.

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Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:32 PM

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No, I'm saying PSU stacked the box last year and beat us.

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Shall we compare the two QB's since that's what your sorry ass is trying to do without saying it:
Stave-56%, 340 yards passing with 3 Tds and 3 ints against PSU.
Tanner-33% 50 yards 0 tds with 2 ints...we could only pray that Tanner can come close to that. Nice try dumbass


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Following the Penn St blue print I guess.


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Thank god we got 3 scrub teams up next, bc I'm sure every coach in America seen they just have to put 8-9 guys in the box and they have a good chance at shutting us down.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:34 PM

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Bc our defense gave up 30+ pts, not bc our QB threw for 50 yards.

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:36 PM

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Lack of Wins against good programs don't count for Stave cause he passes better.

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No, I'm saying PSU stacked the box last year and beat us.

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Shall we compare the two QB's since that's what your sorry ass is trying to do without saying it:
Stave-56%, 340 yards passing with 3 Tds and 3 ints against PSU.
Tanner-33% 50 yards 0 tds with 2 ints...we could only pray that Tanner can come close to that. Nice try dumbass


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Following the Penn St blue print I guess.


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Thank god we got 3 scrub teams up next, bc I'm sure every coach in America seen they just have to put 8-9 guys in the box and they have a good chance at shutting us down.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:37 PM

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The offense scored 24 points in both games.


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Bc our defense gave up 30+ pts, not bc our QB threw for 50 yards.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:39 PM

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So, his 3 ints didn't hurt us? I guess 24 points is enough. Funny, the exact same amount of points we scored against LSU.




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Bc our defense gave up 30+ pts, not bc our QB threw for 50 yards.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:49 PM

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My god you are stupid. MR. OATES TWEETED OUT THERE WAS NO PRACTICE, BUT HE WAS WRONG ON HIS INFO WHEN HE TWEETED IT OUT. 
Ph3431 wrote: What about the part where you said there wasn't a practice on Monday....when there was in fact, a practice on Monday.

Actually, you've done an awful job handling this situation.

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Hmmm what about Mondays presser where he said stave was going to play and no practice Monday and now he's out? GA has done an awful job at handling this whole situation.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:53 PM

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GA has created quite a credibility problem for himself in the media over the last few days.     Can anyone take anything he says publicly at face value at this point?
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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:56 PM

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Kohala wrote: GA has created quite a credibility problem for himself in the media over the last few days.     Can anyone take anything he says publicly at face value at this point?

At least he's not telling your fans that they can go f*ck themselves.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:58 PM

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Of course he was wrong. I knew they had a practice yesterday....yesterday.

And I'm the stupid one?
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My god you are stupid. MR. OATES TWEETED OUT THERE WAS NO PRACTICE, BUT HE WAS WRONG ON HIS INFO WHEN HE TWEETED IT OUT. 
Ph3431 wrote: What about the part where you said there wasn't a practice on Monday....when there was in fact, a practice on Monday.

Actually, you've done an awful job handling this situation.

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Hmmm what about Mondays presser where he said stave was going to play and no practice Monday and now he's out? GA has done an awful job at handling this whole situation.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:00 PM

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LOL - I actually might prefer that.
darkhorse85 wrote:
Kohala wrote: GA has created quite a credibility problem for himself in the media over the last few days.     Can anyone take anything he says publicly at face value at this point?

At least he's not telling your fans that they can go f*ck themselves.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:08 PM

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Ph3431 wrote: Jesus H. We actually agree.

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Please, Stave was obviously injured, he was rested in Spring practice and obviously the problem didn't go away.
Based on his other comments GA didn't want LSU to know whom to prepare for, either the passer or the runner and GA got himself in trouble with the fans, apparently he had no choice.

It ALWAYS made sense to start Stave if he was healthy.

If Stave played poorly and lost, everyone is onboard for the switch, if Stave played well and lost, he could still  phase in Tanner because of the mobility issue, if Stave played well and he won, we're a top 10 program in the rankings and everyone is crazy happy.
All the results starting Stave were good for GA with limited second guessing.
Starting Tanner and he plays poorly and we lose and we're seeing the meltdown of rumor, dissatisfaction and innuendo.
Everything pointed to Stave starting unless he was injured, which is why I suggested he probably was.

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I'm most certainly wrong then this time.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:12 PM

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And to think I was actually happy for you that you'd get to finally experience being right.

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Ph3431 wrote: Jesus H. We actually agree.

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--- ajmadison wrote:

Please, Stave was obviously injured, he was rested in Spring practice and obviously the problem didn't go away.
Based on his other comments GA didn't want LSU to know whom to prepare for, either the passer or the runner and GA got himself in trouble with the fans, apparently he had no choice.

It ALWAYS made sense to start Stave if he was healthy.

If Stave played poorly and lost, everyone is onboard for the switch, if Stave played well and lost, he could still  phase in Tanner because of the mobility issue, if Stave played well and he won, we're a top 10 program in the rankings and everyone is crazy happy.
All the results starting Stave were good for GA with limited second guessing.
Starting Tanner and he plays poorly and we lose and we're seeing the meltdown of rumor, dissatisfaction and innuendo.
Everything pointed to Stave starting unless he was injured, which is why I suggested he probably was.

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I'm most certainly wrong then this time.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:27 PM

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Now that we have the ('opportunity'?)......
Why not try that 'Forgottenflushedman' Houston?

He certainly has the pedigree.
And we have the "soft"opponents to make it relatively safe?
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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:34 PM

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The should revolt because they ( the whiners ) are revolting. The amount of hyperbole on this board is unbelievable.
Now all the sudden things start to make sense. Stave has a serious shoulder injury - in all likelihood - which is why TM started after Stave appeared to perform better in camp prior to camp being closed to the media. It is also why the announcers said he was throwing knuckleballs during warm ups. Hopefully it is not season or career ending.

Lots of people owe Coach A an apology. He doesn't have any depth at key positions yet people with no knowlegde of football or the teams internal issues want him fired. What great fans.
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Well, this seems like bad timing for those 100% set on revolt.

Unless it's all part of the big coverup conspiracy. Time to get the tinfoil hats out...

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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:37 PM

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Give the coach a break, I'm sure we was as upset as any of the players. He didn't handle the press the way you wanted him to, and in retrospect, probably the way he wanted to. Maybe some of the fairweather fans should apologize to the coach?

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ajmadison wrote: Please, Stave was obviously injured, he was rested in Spring practice and obviously the problem didn't go away.
Based on his other comments GA didn't want LSU to know whom to prepare for, either the passer or the runner and GA got himself in trouble with the fans, apparently he had no choice.

It ALWAYS made sense to start Stave if he was healthy.

If Stave played poorly and lost, everyone is onboard for the switch, if Stave played well and lost, he could still  phase in Tanner because of the mobility issue, if Stave played well and he won, we're a top 10 program in the rankings and everyone is crazy happy.
All the results starting Stave were good for GA with limited second guessing.
Starting Tanner and he plays poorly and we lose and we're seeing the meltdown of rumor, dissatisfaction and innuendo.
Everything pointed to Stave starting unless he was injured, which is why I suggested he probably was.
While I agree with most of your post why not come clean at the post game presser?
It would have diffused the whole situation.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:39 PM

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Maybe they made the decision after after the press conference? You mad bro?


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Hmmm what about Mondays presser where he said stave was going to play and no practice Monday and now he's out? GA has done an awful job at handling this whole situation.

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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:41 PM

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Apologize to the coach?  The problem is, if anything, he has only made his credibility the issue bigger in the days since.   

Today he is being ridiculed and compared to Jeff Spicoli in the national media.


VenturaBadger wrote:
Give the coach a break, I'm sure we was as upset as any of the players. He didn't handle the press the way you wanted him to, and in retrospect, probably the way he wanted to. Maybe some of the fairweather fans should apologize to the coach?

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ajmadison wrote: Please, Stave was obviously injured, he was rested in Spring practice and obviously the problem didn't go away.
Based on his other comments GA didn't want LSU to know whom to prepare for, either the passer or the runner and GA got himself in trouble with the fans, apparently he had no choice.

It ALWAYS made sense to start Stave if he was healthy.

If Stave played poorly and lost, everyone is onboard for the switch, if Stave played well and lost, he could still  phase in Tanner because of the mobility issue, if Stave played well and he won, we're a top 10 program in the rankings and everyone is crazy happy.
All the results starting Stave were good for GA with limited second guessing.
Starting Tanner and he plays poorly and we lose and we're seeing the meltdown of rumor, dissatisfaction and innuendo.
Everything pointed to Stave starting unless he was injured, which is why I suggested he probably was.
While I agree with most of your post why not come clean at the post game presser?
It would have diffused the whole situation.

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