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Rutgers is putting the screws to WSU

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Posted: 8/28/2014 9:59 PM

Rutgers is putting the screws to WSU 


It's only the second quarter, but Rutgers is beating the hell out of WSU.  It's 14-3, but it's about as dominant a 14-3 as you can get.  WSU may not be great, but they did win 4 Pac-12 games last year and play in a bowl game.  Not only that, but this is basically a home game for WSU.

Last edited 8/28/2014 10:01 PM by combatsports4life

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Posted: 8/28/2014 10:26 PM

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Rutgers just had another nice long TD to go up 21-10 with 4 minutes in the 2nd quarter.  Representing well so far.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:28 AM

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Rutgers just took a 41-38 lead with under 4 mins to go.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:29 AM

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Very 3 yards and a cloud of dust drive to re take the lead late. Rutgers growing on me. Hopefully they can hold on and void the end of game pac12 officiating screw job
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:34 AM

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Welcome to the B1G Rutgers. Excellent win on the road.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:36 AM

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Won't be on the front page of ESPN, but that's a nice win for Rutgers and the B1G. WSU isn't a powerhouse, but they aren't a pushover. It's not easy to win a road night game, especially if its the first game of the season.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:36 AM

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Rutgers already pulling their weight for the conference!! Great win on the road against a Power conference bowl team from last year.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:37 AM

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Definitely a solid win to start the season considering Rutgers initial expectations and the fact nobody at ESPN picked them to win.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:37 AM

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Great win for them. Weren't we supposed to be playing in this game?
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:42 AM

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Yup. That's what we call Couging it out in WA. Classic Coug loss. RU looked pretty decent--good RB
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:55 AM

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Granted Rutgers played next to nobody, Paul James actually had a very strong start to the season a year ago. Missed four games and never really got back into that groove. He's a good back, though.

For those that don't know, he and Corey Clement played on the same high school team, though Clement was two years younger (I think).
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Posted: 8/29/2014 12:55 AM

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Nice job by Rutgers.  Outside of our game with LSU, this was probably the biggest game of the weekend for the conference in terms of getting any sort of respect nationally.  This would be bigger than if Northwestern beat Cal because Cal was awful last year.  Sure, Washington State isn't the best PAC 12 team, but they did go to a bowl game last year and their offense has made many opposing defenses look really bad, not to mention this was a road game at night on the opposite side of the country.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:19 AM

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I am happy to acknowledge that traveling west and winning a game far past midnight local time on the east coast deserves some recognition. It gives the conference a better W/L record, but I have a hard time believing it did much of anything for the conference's reputation on a national scale.

Outside of beating a USC team that was in complete disarray early in 2013, Wazzu got smoked by any decent team they played in the Pac-12. They had just an awful defense and it looks to be much of the same this season. That reason alone makes me think this game did absolutely nothing for the B1G other than improve its W/L record.

The reputation of the B1G will begin to be restored as teams like Wisconsin and Michigan State, perceived to be in the upper-echelon of the B1G, go up against some of the other conferences elite teams (Oregon & LSU).
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Posted: 8/29/2014 1:39 AM

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hoopsgalore wrote: I am happy to acknowledge that traveling west and winning a game far past midnight local time on the east coast deserves some recognition. It gives the conference a better W/L record, but I have a hard time believing it did much of anything for the conference's reputation on a national scale.

Outside of beating a USC team that was in complete disarray early in 2013, Wazzu got smoked by any decent team they played in the Pac-12. They had just an awful defense and it looks to be much of the same this season. That reason alone makes me think this game did absolutely nothing for the B1G other than improve its W/L record.

The reputation of the B1G will begin to be restored as teams like Wisconsin and Michigan State, perceived to be in the upper-echelon of the B1G, go up against some of the other conferences elite teams (Oregon & LSU).
To a certain extent, yes.  However I think the bigger problem is/was the bottom teams losing to FCS/nonAQ schools on a regular basis.  Big hurdle passed tonight with Minnesota actually defeating their FCS opponent along with Rutgers beating a mid/low tier AQ school on the road.  Everyone holding serve in the games they should win will go a long way in re-establishing reputation on the conference.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:37 AM

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Agreed. Very nice win. Rutgers represented well last year too in beating Arkansas.

They have no qualms about going on the road...had a tough multiple OT loss to Fresno St too.

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Won't be on the front page of ESPN, but that's a nice win for Rutgers and the B1G. WSU isn't a powerhouse, but they aren't a pushover. It's not easy to win a road night game, especially if its the first game of the season.

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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:40 AM

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I agree. Nice wins but perceived conference strengths is about the big boys.

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I am happy to acknowledge that traveling west and winning a game far past midnight local time on the east coast deserves some recognition. It gives the conference a better W/L record, but I have a hard time believing it did much of anything for the conference's reputation on a national scale.

Outside of beating a USC team that was in complete disarray early in 2013, Wazzu got smoked by any decent team they played in the Pac-12. They had just an awful defense and it looks to be much of the same this season. That reason alone makes me think this game did absolutely nothing for the B1G other than improve its W/L record.

The reputation of the B1G will begin to be restored as teams like Wisconsin and Michigan State, perceived to be in the upper-echelon of the B1G, go up against some of the other conferences elite teams (Oregon & LSU).

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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:50 AM

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Evidently Rutgers still hasn't fixed its pass defense problems of a year ago. WSU didn't even make an effort to run the ball on them.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:51 AM

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jamesthegreek wrote:
hoopsgalore wrote: I am happy to acknowledge that traveling west and winning a game far past midnight local time on the east coast deserves some recognition. It gives the conference a better W/L record, but I have a hard time believing it did much of anything for the conference's reputation on a national scale.

Outside of beating a USC team that was in complete disarray early in 2013, Wazzu got smoked by any decent team they played in the Pac-12. They had just an awful defense and it looks to be much of the same this season. That reason alone makes me think this game did absolutely nothing for the B1G other than improve its W/L record.

The reputation of the B1G will begin to be restored as teams like Wisconsin and Michigan State, perceived to be in the upper-echelon of the B1G, go up against some of the other conferences elite teams (Oregon & LSU).
To a certain extent, yes.  However I think the bigger problem is/was the bottom teams losing to FCS/nonAQ schools on a regular basis.  Big hurdle passed tonight with Minnesota actually defeating their FCS opponent along with Rutgers beating a mid/low tier AQ school on the road.  Everyone holding serve in the games they should win will go a long way in re-establishing reputation on the conference.
I don't know that I would call it losing on a regular basis.  Between 1978 and 2013, the B1G record against FCS/1-AA opponents is 135-11 (.924) with Minnesota and Rutgers occupying six of those losses.  In comparison, the Pac-12 has also lost 11 games to FCS/1-AA opponents since 1978, the ACC has lost 29, and the Big 12 has lost 17.

The timing of these losses between conferences/teams varies, but I have a hard time believing that the bottom-tier teams in the B1G are the bigger problem.  Not very often do outsiders comment on Minnesota's loss to NDSU, for example.  The criticisms regarding the B1G are geared at the upper-echelon of the conference.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 7:59 AM

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UnknownBadger wrote: Evidently Rutgers still hasn't fixed its pass defense problems of a year ago. WSU didn't even make an effort to run the ball on them.
Agreed that Rutgers was bad a year ago defending against the pass (120th nationally), but this also happens to be Wazzu we are talking about.  It is a Mike Leach-coached team and the rock will be tossed around at an extremely high rate.  Washington State passed the ball 76% of the time a year ago.  Connor Halliday attempted 40+ passes eleven times in 2013, 50+ passes seven times, 60+ passes three times, and 80+ passes one time.

Last night, Wazzu passed 80% of the time.  Higher than their pass-run ratio in 2013, but certainly not surprising.  As I said, Rutgers likely has a bad pass defense either way, but this will be Wazzu's game plan in every game moving forward.

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Posted: 8/29/2014 8:08 AM

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Rutgers was a double digit dog heading into this game, I believe. Nice win for them and a good start for the B1G this year.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 8:42 AM

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People have been underrating Rutgers from the beginning here.

Their upside is very high they already fit in with the Purdues, Illini, Indiana, Minn, Maryland types and they are close to the Iowa, Northwestern group also (not saying they would beat all those teams right now).

I believe if they can get an attractive HC and keep 2-3 extra kids at home every year they'll fit in with Nebraska, UW and MSU also, that's their upside.

Mich, OSU and PSU is a different story for recruiting for them but there have been  plenty of  underrated good football players all over the Bigten from New Jersey who could easily stay home now.
The Garret Graham, Casillass types will find Rutgers viable.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 8:47 AM

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ajmadison wrote: People have been underrating Rutgers from the beginning here.

Their upside is very high they already fit in with the Purdues, Illini, Indiana, Minn, Maryland types and they are close to the Iowa, Northwestern group also (not saying they would beat all those teams right now).

I believe if they can get an attractive HC and keep 2-3 extra kids at home every year they'll fit in with Nebraska, UW and MSU also, that's their upside.

Mich, OSU and PSU is a different story for recruiting for them but there have been  plenty of  underrated good football players all over the Bigten from New Jersey who could easily stay home now.
The Garret Graham, Casillass types will find Rutgers viable.
They'll be lucky to win 2 conference games this year. AND next for that matter.

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Posted: 8/29/2014 8:50 AM

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ThaT remains to be seen and is often related to schedule.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 8:54 AM

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ajmadison wrote: ThaT remains to be seen and is often related to schedule.
I'll buy the second half of your statement. Personally, I think their only hope for a conference victory this year is an upset victory over Maryland.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:20 AM

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UnknownBadger wrote:
ajmadison wrote: ThaT remains to be seen and is often related to schedule.
I'll buy the second half of your statement. Personally, I think their only hope for a conference victory this year is an upset victory over Maryland.
Rutgers will beat PSU in their Big Ten opener.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:50 AM

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GratefullyRed wrote:
UnknownBadger wrote:
ajmadison wrote: ThaT remains to be seen and is often related to schedule.
I'll buy the second half of your statement. Personally, I think their only hope for a conference victory this year is an upset victory over Maryland.
Rutgers will beat PSU in their Big Ten opener.
They'd like to but they won't.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 9:51 AM

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Having a high-scoring dogfight on the road against a Mike Leach team is a great way to start RU's B1G membership. Sure, WSU isn't OSU, MSU, or even PSU, but the Knights had to travel cross-country to play a game against a Power-5 opponent that started at 10:30 on their body clocks. They did just what they had to do: got off to an early start, dominated the LOS, and withstood the aerial bombardment. They aren't going to win the B1G East, but could win two or three Conference games and all four of their non-conference games. This was a big opening test for them, and they passed it. Kudos for that.
These ARE the Good Old Days.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:06 AM

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OlBadger wrote: Having a high-scoring dogfight on the road against a Mike Leach team is a great way to start RU's B1G membership. Sure, WSU isn't OSU, MSU, or even PSU, but the Knights had to travel cross-country to play a game against a Power-5 opponent that started at 10:30 on their body clocks. They did just what they had to do: got off to an early start, dominated the LOS, and withstood the aerial bombardment. They aren't going to win the B1G East, but could win two or three Conference games and all four of their non-conference games. This was a big opening test for them, and they passed it. Kudos for that.
I'm curious, which of those 2 or 3 conference games are they going to win?

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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:49 AM

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UnknownBadger wrote: Evidently Rutgers still hasn't fixed its pass defense problems of a year ago. WSU didn't even make an effort to run the ball on them.
WSU has no running game to speak of. Young backs too that are not all that good. RU backs were much better than anything WSU  has.
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Posted: 8/29/2014 10:54 AM

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hoopsgalore wrote: I am happy to acknowledge that traveling west and winning a game far past midnight local time on the east coast deserves some recognition. It gives the conference a better W/L record, but I have a hard time believing it did much of anything for the conference's reputation on a national scale.

Outside of beating a USC team that was in complete disarray early in 2013, Wazzu got smoked by any decent team they played in the Pac-12. They had just an awful defense and it looks to be much of the same this season. That reason alone makes me think this game did absolutely nothing for the B1G other than improve its W/L record.

The reputation of the B1G will begin to be restored as teams like Wisconsin and Michigan State, perceived to be in the upper-echelon of the B1G, go up against some of the other conferences elite teams (Oregon & LSU).
They beat Arizona on the road too. AZ had a decent team and beat Oregon handily.
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