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Posted: 8/26/2014 11:50 AM

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I really like uw as lsu DL depth is thin and, unlike uw, no herring type to prevent uw's interior 3 from mauling by mid third

If to margin is close to even? Uw by 6-9 IMO in a low scoring, 23-16 game, could be higher if uw hits any deep balls early too

CC emerges on national stage and number 2 has a pick 6 , watt has a chad Kuhns s like at OSU(42-17) game

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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:13 PM

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At the moment, I'm thinking LSU 38, UW 13.

Our front seven is too small, and we have no WRs. Bad combo against LSU.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:28 PM

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LSU 31 Wisconsin 21
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:33 PM

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buckyfever1 wrote: I really like uw as lsu DL depth is thin and, unlike uw, no herring type to prevent uw's interior 3 from mauling by mid third

If to margin is close to even? Uw by 6-9 IMO in a low scoring, 23-16 game, could be higher if uw hits any deep balls early too

CC emerges on national stage and number 2 has a pick 6 , watt has a chad Kuhns s like at OSU(42-17) game
One of the few times in my years as a Badger fan, I'm not very optimistic.

New QB under a big stage, new WR's, chances of a seemless offense , first game are very low and their OL is just as likely to maul us as ours is them.
We're suddenly a young team, they're young too but more talented.
If GA, Ludwig and Aranda pull this off, I'll be very, very pleasantly surprised and will feel Badgers have substantially upgraded their Coaching staff.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:50 PM

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LSU 35 UW 20 Too many question marks.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:58 PM

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I have no idea what to expect from our team and far less about what to expect from theirs.  So my best prediction is that it's going to be something other than a tie.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:10 PM

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buckyfever1 wrote: I really like uw as lsu DL depth is thin and, unlike uw, no herring type to prevent uw's interior 3 from mauling by mid third

If to margin is close to even? Uw by 6-9 IMO in a low scoring, 23-16 game, could be higher if uw hits any deep balls early too

CC emerges on national stage and number 2 has a pick 6 , watt has a chad Kuhns s like at OSU(42-17) game
Did Herring get hurt last year?  Was just looking at stats on him, and seems like after the Ohio State game he didn't do much the rest of the year.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:13 PM

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I don't feel good about this.  The line has gone from -4 to -5 in the last 5 days or so.  Is this because of McEvoy being leaked as the starter or something else?
 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:19 PM

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uwbadgers wrote: I don't feel good about this.  The line has gone from -4 to -5 in the last 5 days or so.  Is this because of McEvoy being leaked as the starter or something else?
Put it this way, if you were an LSU fan and bettor and you only had to give 4 points in this game wouldn't you be emptying your pockets?
It's almost a home game and you don't even have to win by a TD.
That's why the line moved.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:22 PM

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Yes, it was a no-brainer at -4.  The timing of the movement made it interesting.  Maybe it was more people placing bets in the last 5 days or maybe it was something else. 
ajmadison wrote:
uwbadgers wrote: I don't feel good about this.  The line has gone from -4 to -5 in the last 5 days or so.  Is this because of McEvoy being leaked as the starter or something else?
Put it this way, if you were an LSU fan and bettor and you only had to give 4 points in this game wouldn't you be emptying your pockets?
It's almost a home game and you don't even have to win by a TD.
That's why the line moved.
 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:08 PM

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WISteeler wrote: At the moment, I'm thinking LSU 38, UW 13.

Our front seven is too small, and we have no WRs. Bad combo against LSU.
irony of this statement is our linebackers are actually bigger than theirs and they have no returning WR's either.  plus their qb is younger than both of ours.  lots of bed wetters out this week i have noticed.  hope we kick their *ss.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:38 PM

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WISteeler wrote: At the moment, I'm thinking LSU 38, UW 13.

Our front seven is too small, and we have no WRs. Bad combo against LSU.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:53 PM

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38-17 LSU. I think our team has a lot of good potential, but this is a tall task for a young team right off the bat. I'd feel better about this matchup in a bowl game.

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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:29 PM

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Sure hope the players have more confidence than you guys, good grief.

38-17 LSU?? Are you guys serious? What team has beat us by that many points in the last 8 years??? The last decade???


LSU is just as young as we are, if not younger, at many key positions. Granted they've got more stars tied to the names of their recruits, but they currently all have the same Division 1 status: Untested. I like our freshmen. I like a lot of our young players and think they will surprise a lot of people.

I've got UW 31, LSU 27.. I mentioned this in the thread I created yesterday.. I see us scoring late in a really good game, and just barely escaping with the win.

Should be an amazing game. But seriously, give our guys more credit! banghead


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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:48 PM

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ScoNNieSuPPorteR wrote: Sure hope the players have more confidence than you guys, good grief.

38-17 LSU?? Are you guys serious? What team has beat us by that many points in the last 8 years??? The last decade???


LSU is just as young as we are, if not younger, at many key positions. Granted they've got more stars tied to the names of their recruits, but they currently all have the same Division 1 status: Untested. I like our freshmen. I like a lot of our young players and think they will surprise a lot of people.

I've got UW 31, LSU 27.. I mentioned this in the thread I created yesterday.. I see us scoring late in a really good game, and just barely escaping with the win.

Should be an amazing game. But seriously, give our guys more credit! banghead
This! ....and I get a kick out of the "we're too young" crowd...Jesus boys, look at their roster too not just their helmet logo....I wouldn't bet this line either way with all the question marks on both sides of the Side lines...my prediction is the team with the least TOs and best special teams play wins a fairly high scoring close game...so to that...34-31 (see above for winner).
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:52 PM

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Husker fan here. I have to concur with ScoNNie. I have always been impressed with the way the Badgers NEVER get blown out. Based on that metric, the game is fairly close. Then factor in that the Badgers should be able to control the line, run on the Tigers, control the clock and possession. If they don't get too pass happy, I see a 27-24 Badger win. Best of luck gentlemen.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:54 PM

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ScoNNieSuPPorteR wrote: 
38-17 LSU?? Are you guys serious? What team has beat us by that many points in the last 8 years??? The last decade???

Well it happened 3 times in 2008.  Including losing by 41 in Madison to PSU.

We could easiliy lose by 3 touchdowns and not have played all that bad. Just have a bad feeling a few things will happen to make it get away in the 4th.

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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:54 PM

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24-20 UW...just rewatched the LSU / Iowa game and it's going to be a slugfest where both starting RBs run over 200 yards and the quarterbacks throw around ~50% on both sides. We just have a better kicker now and that will help.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:16 PM

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Jesus, bunch of non-believers in here. Did you guys even watch LSU late last season? The team that was played close by Arkansas and Iowa has even more question marks now. Sure they still might be the favorite, but what is this lose by 20+ points nonsense... really. Could happen, but to me either team winning by that margin would be a bit surprising
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:29 PM

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ByTheLightOfTheMoon wrote: Jesus, bunch of non-believers in here. Did you guys even watch LSU late last season? The team that was played close by Arkansas and Iowa has even more question marks now. Sure they still might be the favorite, but what is this lose by 20+ points nonsense... really. Could happen, but to me either team winning by that margin would be a bit surprising
Though Arkansas was just awful last season, LSU has always had trouble with the Razorbacks under Les Miles.  I believe there has only been one contest between the two teams, since Miles has been coach, that the margin of defeat has been double-digits.  I personally wouldn't draw many conclusions from that game.

Both teams have some question marks.  I look at Wisconsin with more questions than I do LSU.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:36 PM

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I'll play, adding to the recent positivity!  Usually I get less and less confident as a big game approaches, I'm feeling the opposite for some reason with this game.

Comparing the defenses is far too difficult since there are many unknowns.  I would concede that LSU's secondary may be better but I don't see us testing them.  I think McEvoy is starting as the staff has no desire to test LSU's corners with long routes.   

Both teams have questions at qb and assuming McEvoy does start how each team's qb will play is completely unknown.  Both teams lose there star WR.  In fact, LSU loses two recievers who both gained 1000 yds.  LSU loses an NFL type quarterback in Mettenburger.  Both teams lose NFL backs in Jeremy Hill and James White.  Bottom line LSU's entire passing attack is gone which will only make them more one dimensional compared to last year and should hurt their ability to run the ball.

Given the above, I think the offensive lines is the key and the strength of both teams.  Both groups are experienced so we should be able to analyze the group based on last season.  Last year LSU averaged 5 yards a carry while Wisconsin averaged 6.6.  Now you could say that LSU had a tougher schedule but with Mettenburger, Beckham, and Landry, I'm pretty sure that teams couldn't stack the box against them as teams did against us.  Both teams played Iowa and we ran the ball better than LSU did in that game.  Against a good S.Carolina defense we rushed for 293 yards which is better than LSU's average in the SEC.

My point to this is I think the rushing attack for both teams will be crucial and I think that there is evidence to believe that ours is better than theirs.  I think it's that simple since this won't be a game where one team's strength will be going against the other teams strength.  I think we pound Clement between the tackles, McEvoy will allow is to roll out to the edges, and Gordon will do his damage all over the field.  I think our backs and TEs will catch balls as McEvoy is rolling out of the pocket. 

I'm going the opposite way of others on this board and say we get up early and win 34-17.  Go Badgers!
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:45 PM

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Otis,

Par for the course in terms of bedwetting. same crowd for most part that still thinks archie griffin is at OSU and #4, Jim harbaugh is running Bo's O ain ann arborohlord

When You say BUDWEISERrolleyes

Either team could drill the other given its a first game yet I dont think the LSU qb would start at 9-11 big ten schools (and for all the questions UW has on DL, LSU is a complete crap shoot on the interior DL- against the best OL/interior trio in big ten imo? we should feast...............)

LSU qb? Yes, hes that green............ Add new LSu new wr's vs what could be our best cb duo in years? Caputo able to play LB or SS? big edge to UW and Whikle LSU can say the same thing about their secondary?

UW has a big edge at qb given MCevoys four years in college mcevoy can win a game by simply being the smarter "vet" qb,  he started at safety and played pretty well.  This will serve him pretty well if UW puts him in third and 5ish.

If uw loses this game? Be on turnovers and/ or mcevoy was  awful.  Our OC is much smarter than to let mcevoy do too much via the air and if UW can handle the interior like it should?  LSu will have to play 8ish in the box (look at what gordon did vs a MUCH better SC d in january). Add CC pounding for 25ish carries in a low scoring say, 9-6 game at half............  GORDON WIL BREAK BIG in third............

UW must play tressel ball and bait LSU into some dumb throws, The mad hatter can be baited yet he plays big ten ball most of the time.

BTW, UW drilled an Iowa team that gave a MUCH better LSu team all it wanted yet all UW fans do is see SEC.

patheticrolleyes

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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:52 PM

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Yup...


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Otis,

Par for the course in terms of bedwetting. same crowd for most part that still thinks archie griffin is at OSU and #4, Jim harbaugh is running Bo's O ain ann arborohlord



When You say BUDWEISERrolleyes

Either team could drill the other given its a first game yet I dont think the LSU qb would start at 9-11 big ten schools (and for all the questions UW has on DL, LSU is a complete crap shoot on the interior DL- against the best OL/interior trio in big ten imo? we should feast...............)

LSU qb? Yes, hes that green............ Add new LSu new wr's vs what could be our best cb duo in years? Caputo able to play LB or SS? big edge to UW and Whikle LSU can say the same thing about their secondary?

UW has a big edge at qb given MCevoys four years in college mcevoy can win a game by simply being the smarter "vet" qb,  he started at safety and played pretty well.  This will serve him pretty well if UW puts him in third and 5ish.

If uw loses this game? Be on turnovers and/ or mcevoy was  awful.  Our OC is much smarter than to let mcevoy do too much via the air and if UW can handle the interior like it should?  LSu will have to play 8ish in the box (look at what gordon did vs a MUCH better SC d in january). Add CC pounding for 25ish carries in a low scoring say, 9-6 game at half............  GORDON WIL BREAK BIG in third............

UW must play tressel ball and bait LSU into some dumb throws, The mad hatter can be baited yet he plays big ten ball most of the time.

BTW, UW drilled an Iowa team that gave a MUCH better LSu team all it wanted yet all UW fans do is see SEC.

patheticrolleyes



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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:52 PM

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Ok sick of hearing about LSU in the last season they lost almost all of there offensive production. Besides Bama they have lost the most under classmen to the NFL the past 2 seasons. They have depth but its very young and inexperienced:

Going into 2014 LSU will lose:
348 of 523 rush attempts
296 of 326 pass attempts
170 of 205 receptions
32-36 KO returns
19-23 P returns

Your telling me they can just snap their fingers and make that up?

Wisconsin has unknowns on D but here is what they bring back:

Warren Herring        17 Tak, 10 Solo, 6 TFL, 4 Sack

Konrad Zagzebski   19 Tak, 10 Solo, 2 TFL

Derek Landisch       33 Tak, 19 Solo, 2 TFL, 1 Sack

Marcus Trotter          24 Tak, 10 Solo, 2 TFL

Joe Schobert            24 Tak, 12 Solo, 2.5 TFL, 1 Sack

Vince Biegel             25 Tak, 19 Solo, 3 TFL, 2 Sack

Sojourn Shelton      36 Tak, 31 Solo, 5 PD, 4 Int

Darius Hillary           30 Tak, 21 Solo, 5 PD, 1 Int

Michael Caputo       63 Tak, 36 Solo, 3 TFL

I say advantage WI.....

LSU was poor against the run last season and lost both DT's. So we will need a very limited Pass offense I see a Blowout....

34-20 WI first win of the season and a building block too a great season have a little faith People....
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:01 PM

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Jeez. Haven't seen a prediction topic this pessimistic in a lonnnnnnng time. I understand predicting a loss, but by 20+ points? We lost to a SCAR team at the end of last year by 10, and it would have been closer if not for a lot of missed opportunities on our part. Yes, LSU is a different team and we're also a different team than last year, but its not like we've gotten worse across the board (kicking will be better, QB could be better but certainly not worse, Gordon and Clement should be fantastic, more WR targets than just Abby, etc.). LSU isn't free of question marks either. 

I don't have us winning, but we'll keep it close. 30-27 LSU.

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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:05 PM

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All just shots in the dark at this point, especially with all the questions on both sides, but gotta stay positive.... UW 34-31
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:16 PM

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LSU also shut down Johnny Football last year and routed A&M.  Held him to 10 Nov 23rd and they hadnt' scored less than 40 all season.  I'm not convinced we have a passing game yet.  We sure have a running game but if they don't have to respect the pass I bet they could contain it. 

Some of you have some good points and my 21 point spread seems more like a Death Valley prediction, but i'm not sure how to account for this quasi-'neutral' situation.

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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:26 PM

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Ok I forgot about that year and especially that PSU game and then I believe that was the year we looked awful in a bowl against FSU.. that whole year was a fluke. I guess I was trying to permanently remove it from my mental database hahaha.

But Wisconsin is known for keeping it close and staying in the game until the very end. Sometimes, unfortunately, we give up the win in those last few seconds as opposed to clawing back from a defecit.

I see it going different in Houston this time. This time we are the team due for that last minute victory.


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ScoNNieSuPPorteR wrote: 
38-17 LSU?? Are you guys serious? What team has beat us by that many points in the last 8 years??? The last decade???

Well it happened 3 times in 2008.  Including losing by 41 in Madison to PSU.

We could easiliy lose by 3 touchdowns and not have played all that bad. Just have a bad feeling a few things will happen to make it get away in the 4th.

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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:27 PM

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Badgers919 wrote: LSU also shut down Johnny Football last year and routed A&M.  Held him to 10 Nov 23rd and they hadnt' scored less than 40 all season.  I'm not convinced we have a passing game yet.  We sure have a running game but if they don't have to respect the pass I bet they could contain it. 

Some of you have some good points and my 21 point spread seems more like a Death Valley prediction, but i'm not sure how to account for this quasi-'neutral' situation.
LSU's defense is (was) good against spread teams.

Power running teams? Not so much. A bad Arky team that plays much like us almost beat the Tigers last year.

And just because McEvoy is the apparent starter, that does not mean we are going to start playing streetball like A&M so get that out of your head.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:43 PM

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Pulling for the upset and praying for nothing like the Colorado debacle. Keep it respectable and could be a good season.
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