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McEvoy to start at QB @LSU

Posted: 8/22/2014 12:41 PM

McEvoy to start at QB @LSU 


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Posted: 8/22/2014 12:43 PM

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Also read this from Jeff...don't know what to think. Is he really starting and playing like a starter or is Wisconsin just going to start him for a series then bring Stave in.

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 8/22/2014 12:44 PM

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Kind of a surprise given what we've heard so far. I wouldn't rule out gamesmanship though.

Either way, can't wait to see them play.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 12:51 PM

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This is surprising, especially after the early reports through training camp. I'd imagine McEvoy caught up to Stave during the last week or two, and McEvoy's mobility ended up being the deciding factor for the coaches. There's also the possibility that they'll split reps with the offense, and they just gave the starting nod to McEvoy for the moment. I guess we'll see.

Either way, I'm really excited to see what McEvoy can bring to our offense this year.  Congrats to Tanner!
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Posted: 8/22/2014 12:51 PM

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Kind of a surprise given what we've heard so far. I wouldn't rule out gamesmanship though.

Either way, can't wait to see them play.

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Agreed. Just got hammered by Unknown for saying that I believed Stave would start based on what I had read. I didn't see this coming but I do believe that this competition will result in better qb play than we had last year. At least I'm hopeful.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 12:54 PM

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Stave transferring to Towson State now?
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Posted: 8/22/2014 12:56 PM

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Interesting... I wonder why Monday practice hastily went from open to closed?

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:06 PM

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Here's Worgull's tweet about it.

twitter.com/thebadgernation/st...877209585926145

This is just nuts.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:07 PM

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Wouldn't be surprised if Bart Houston leaves.


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Stave transferring to Towson State now?

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:11 PM

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He's not as good of a passer as Stave, but he also doesn't need to be. Keeping a menacing defense like LSU's on its toes will do wonders for the run and pass game. We can also take comfort that the backup QB can win the remaining 11 games on the schedule.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:21 PM

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Tanner McEvoy's first ever D-1 snap under center will be in Houston against LSU. Good luck!
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:21 PM

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EricTheeRed wrote: Tanner McEvoy's first ever D-1 snap under center will be in Houston against LSU. Good luck!
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:27 PM

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This is just nutty, as far as I'm concerned.

If Macevoy were clearly better than Stave, I'd be fine with it. But, he's not. And, arguably, he's not even tied with Stave as far as execution, and running the offense, etc.

What this tells me is that GA has ZERO confidence in our receivers, and also zero confidence in the ability of our O-Line to pass block.

This says more about those two units than it does about Stave, IMHO.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:27 PM

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McEvoy starting certainly makes the comments about Gillens not for sure red-shirting more interesting.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:27 PM

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The beauty of this is that it should somewhat reduce the LSU pass rush. They can no longer just fly up the field and leave holes for McEvoy to stop up and take off through. It also allows us to row a lot of easy pass plays in the form of designed roll outs that force the LB's to make a choice. That can lead to a lot of easy 5 yard gains if the linebackers refuse to leave coverage or a lot of easy throws that can turn into 10 to 15 yard gains by the TE if the do leave him and come up to make a play. MSU did this a lot with Connor cook last year and it was very effective. I would think McEvoy is probably more of a threat as a runner than Cook and is a likely a little ahead as a passer to where cook was to start the season last year.

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He's not as good of a passer as Stave, but he also doesn't need to be. Keeping a menacing defense like LSU's on its toes will do wonders for the run and pass game. We can also take comfort that the backup QB can win the remaining 11 games on the schedule.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:29 PM

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EricTheeRed wrote: McEvoy starting certainly makes the comments about Gillens not for sure red-shirting more interesting.
McEvoy and Stave will both play, and both play a lot vs. LSU.
"Hell.... Lumberg f&%^#d her!"
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:29 PM

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How do you know that for certainty? Press only gets to see roughly a quarter of the practice time. Plus it's much easier to create a game plan for a QB who is also a running threat over a traditional pocket passer.
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This is just nutty, as far as I'm concerned.

If Macevoy were clearly better than Stave, I'd be fine with it. But, he's not. And, arguably, he's not even tied with Stave as far as execution, and running the offense, etc.

What this tells me is that GA has ZERO confidence in our receivers, and also zero confidence in the ability of our O-Line to pass block.

This says more about those two units than it does about Stave, IMHO.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:30 PM

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George2k5 wrote: What this tells me is that GA has ZERO confidence in our receivers, and also zero confidence in the ability of our O-Line to pass block.

This says more about those two units than it does about Stave, IMHO.
I would leave the o-line out of it. There's  no reason to believe they shouldn't be solid.

However, if you have no confidence in your receivers getting open a somewhat logical alternative is to bastardize your offense and (for lack of a better word) "trick" LSU with unconventional passing plays.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:31 PM

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MSU's offense started out as a disaster area last season. That team was carried by it's incredible defense through the first few games while its offense struggled. That ain't happening with the Badgers this season. And, while MSU's receovers dropped a lot of balls early, they were more experienced and (arguably) more talented that UW's corps of receivers this season.

This is a strong vote of no confidence in the badgers receivers and the ability of the O-line to pass block. I'd be interested to see what happens to the point spread. I bet it goes up.
jajulka wrote:
The beauty of this is that it should somewhat reduce the LSU pass rush. They can no longer just fly up the field and leave holes for McEvoy to stop up and take off through. It also allows us to row a lot of easy pass plays in the form of designed roll outs that force the LB's to make a choice. That can lead to a lot of easy 5 yard gains if the linebackers refuse to leave coverage or a lot of easy throws that can turn into 10 to 15 yard gains by the TE if the do leave him and come up to make a play. MSU did this a lot with Connor cook last year and it was very effective. I would think McEvoy is probably more of a threat as a runner than Cook and is a likely a little ahead as a passer to where cook was to start the season last year.

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He's not as good of a passer as Stave, but he also doesn't need to be. Keeping a menacing defense like LSU's on its toes will do wonders for the run and pass game. We can also take comfort that the backup QB can win the remaining 11 games on the schedule.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:32 PM

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George2k5 wrote: This is just nutty, as far as I'm concerned.

If Macevoy were clearly better than Stave, I'd be fine with it. But, he's not. And, arguably, he's not even tied with Stave as far as execution, and running the offense, etc.

What this tells me is that GA has ZERO confidence in our receivers, and also zero confidence in the ability of our O-Line to pass block.

This says more about those two units than it does about Stave, IMHO.

How the F**K do you know that McEvoy (check your spelling) isn't better than Stave? Does Gary Anderson post under the pseudonym George2k5 these days? Either you have all access to UW practices, or you're an idiot. Until I have evidence towards the former, the evidence for the latter wins. On the other hand, maybe you should've applied for the head coaching position at UW and we'd be winning national championships every year. Glad to confirm # of posts clearly does not correlate with knowledge of college football. rolleyes

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:33 PM

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George2k5 wrote: MSU's offense started out as a disaster area last season. That team was carried by it's incredible defense through the first few games while its offense struggled. That ain't happening with the Badgers this season. And, while MSU's receovers dropped a lot of balls early, they were more experienced and (arguably) more talented that UW's corps of receivers this season.

This is a strong vote of no confidence in the badgers receivers and the ability of the O-line to pass block. I'd be interested to see what happens to the point spread. I bet it goes up.
jajulka wrote:
The beauty of this is that it should somewhat reduce the LSU pass rush. They can no longer just fly up the field and leave holes for McEvoy to stop up and take off through. It also allows us to row a lot of easy pass plays in the form of designed roll outs that force the LB's to make a choice. That can lead to a lot of easy 5 yard gains if the linebackers refuse to leave coverage or a lot of easy throws that can turn into 10 to 15 yard gains by the TE if the do leave him and come up to make a play. MSU did this a lot with Connor cook last year and it was very effective. I would think McEvoy is probably more of a threat as a runner than Cook and is a likely a little ahead as a passer to where cook was to start the season last year.

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He's not as good of a passer as Stave, but he also doesn't need to be. Keeping a menacing defense like LSU's on its toes will do wonders for the run and pass game. We can also take comfort that the backup QB can win the remaining 11 games on the schedule.

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Sweet Jesus. It is neither of those things.

After the second scrimmage, Andersen said this about the QB play:

“We missed too many layups last year. When it is there and it’s given to you on a platter you’ve got to take advantage of it.

“If you don’t it will cost you. It will cost you big.”

"Nobody has defended (Ray) Rice. TGP and PH are trying to perpetuate a myth. They don't have a reading comprehension problem. They are simply idiots." - Kowitzc on 7/31/14 during a debate about domestic violence.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:33 PM

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Chuckie Keetons first ever D1 snap came as an 18-year old true freshman AT Auburn.


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EricTheeRed wrote: Tanner McEvoy's first ever D-1 snap under center will be in Houston against LSU. Good luck!
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:33 PM

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Really happy I just wrote 4,000 words going #ALLIN on Stave this year.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:34 PM

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I disagree. If you are worried about your receivers, but confident in your O-Line's pass blocking, you can run a lot of play action. But, that requires taking your eyes off the pass rush, and longer developing plays. Not as big an issue if your line can keep the rush off of you.

This tells me that the Badgers are going to do a lot of spread/read option stuff along the lines of what Auburn does because they know the strength of their line if run blocking. They can't do that with Stave.


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George2k5 wrote: What this tells me is that GA has ZERO confidence in our receivers, and also zero confidence in the ability of our O-Line to pass block.

This says more about those two units than it does about Stave, IMHO.
I would leave the o-line out of it. There's  no reason to believe they shouldn't be solid.

However, if you have no confidence in your receivers getting open a somewhat logical alternative is to bastardize your offense and (for lack of a better word) "trick" LSU with unconventional passing plays.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:34 PM

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I like it. I want to see the offense have that extra dimension of a running threat at QB to put more pressure on the defense. 

I also have full confidence in Stave if Tanner should struggle or get hurt. 

If this is the decision, I'm good with it.... Can't wait for kickoff next week.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:34 PM

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How do you know that for certainty? Press only gets to see roughly a quarter of the practice time. Plus it's much easier to create a game plan for a QB who is also a running threat over a traditional pocket passer.
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This is just nutty, as far as I'm concerned.

If Macevoy were clearly better than Stave, I'd be fine with it. But, he's not. And, arguably, he's not even tied with Stave as far as execution, and running the offense, etc.

What this tells me is that GA has ZERO confidence in our receivers, and also zero confidence in the ability of our O-Line to pass block.

This says more about those two units than it does about Stave, IMHO.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:35 PM

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Did Utah Stave have an experienced veteran with a winning record as an alternative, who also played better than him in summer practices?
Ph3431 wrote: Chuckie Keetons first ever D1 snap came as an 18-year old true freshman AT Auburn.


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EricTheeRed wrote: Tanner McEvoy's first ever D-1 snap under center will be in Houston against LSU. Good luck!
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:35 PM

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EricTheeRed wrote: McEvoy starting certainly makes the comments about Gillens not for sure red-shirting more interesting.
Good point.  Agreed.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:36 PM

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I want a QB who can throw the effing ball with accuracy.
BuckYeah wrote:

I like it. I want to see the offense have that extra dimension of a running threat at QB to put more pressure on the defense. 

I also have full confidence in Stave if Tanner should struggle or get hurt. 

If this is the decision, I'm good with it.... Can't wait for kickoff next week.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:36 PM

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It's particularly satisfying to see a response like this to someone I have on ignore...

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George2k5 wrote: MSU's offense started out as a disaster area last season. That team was carried by it's incredible defense through the first few games while its offense struggled. That ain't happening with the Badgers this season. And, while MSU's receovers dropped a lot of balls early, they were more experienced and (arguably) more talented that UW's corps of receivers this season.

This is a strong vote of no confidence in the badgers receivers and the ability of the O-line to pass block. I'd be interested to see what happens to the point spread. I bet it goes up.
jajulka wrote:
The beauty of this is that it should somewhat reduce the LSU pass rush. They can no longer just fly up the field and leave holes for McEvoy to stop up and take off through. It also allows us to row a lot of easy pass plays in the form of designed roll outs that force the LB's to make a choice. That can lead to a lot of easy 5 yard gains if the linebackers refuse to leave coverage or a lot of easy throws that can turn into 10 to 15 yard gains by the TE if the do leave him and come up to make a play. MSU did this a lot with Connor cook last year and it was very effective. I would think McEvoy is probably more of a threat as a runner than Cook and is a likely a little ahead as a passer to where cook was to start the season last year.

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--- WISteeler wrote:

He's not as good of a passer as Stave, but he also doesn't need to be. Keeping a menacing defense like LSU's on its toes will do wonders for the run and pass game. We can also take comfort that the backup QB can win the remaining 11 games on the schedule.

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Sweet Jesus. It is neither of those things.

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