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Posted: 8/22/2014 7:49 AM

LSU vs WI 


So been trying to find anyone in the CFB world that thinks WI has a chance. So far not one expert has picked WI to beat the Tigers. Just goes to show how much disrespect the pundits have for Big Ten teams. I know the Bowl record for the B10 in 2013 was not stellar. But all the games where close except Michigan which was embarrassed by Kansas St. So Im hoping that our boys shove there collective foots down the throats of the Nay Sayers.


WI wins  34-20

Gordon and Clement both have 100 yrds and our no name D shocks LSU's over Hyped Offense....
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:09 AM

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Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

SRS80 wrote: Arizona outclassing Wisconsin. Better athletes. Bo is losing his cool and so is the team. Zona should be up 10 at least. They will win by a comfortable margin though.

Said during Elite Eight Game UW won 64-63.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:12 AM

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kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:26 AM

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Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:26 AM

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kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

Wisconsin's ? at QB is less of a ? than LSU's.  I guess if Stave has in fact improved from last season then he might be the best QB in the conference.  If he hasn't, he's an average college qb and we have another option waiting.  Yes, the Badger front 7 lost it's starters but did return guys who have contributed and are talented.  I believe LSU lost some guys on the line too. 

I'm not arguing with the experts picking LSU, but this is a tough game to predict and it sounds like you support Wisconsin not having a shot.  Pretty even game in my opinion.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:30 AM

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UnknownBadger wrote:
Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.
Stave had to improve from last year, I think otherwise he would not have won the starting job as the staff seemed to almost want to make the change.  Do you agree with the B1G guys?
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:36 AM

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Both teams have question marks.  

Wisconsin has a quarterback that showed some inconsistencies last season with Jared Abbrederis and Jacob Pedersen at his disposal.  Those 'lone' two targets are gone and a two-year starter with a history of shoulder/collarbone problems is going to rely on a cast of young receivers that get to go up against one of the better secondaries in the country.

Wisconsin will be forced to run, and run a lot.  Melvin Gordon and Corey Clement are one of the best, if not the best, running tandems in the country.  Hell, some around here, including myself, believe they are the two most physically talented backs Wisconsin has ever had.  We return an experienced offensive line (four starters) in a power-run game that goes up against a team with questionable defensive tackle depth.  As most know, opposing teams have always stacked the box and it has not kept our ground from getting their yards.  I expect most of the same.

LSU fans that preach their athleticism and talent over ours probably are being truthful.  You won't convince anyone around here that this will be the difference between a win or loss, though.  For as long as we remember, Wisconsin has always been outclassed in 'talent' and 'athleticism' and has fared just fine as a perennial Top 25 team for the past two decades.

The front seven certainly seems to be a concern.  I've been vocal that while it can be acknowledged as a weakness on the defense, it is not as severe as some make it out to be.  Most of the projected starters along that front seven all saw significant playing time a year ago and have started game(s) in their career.  Our secondary returns 129 tackles and the projected front seven returns 141 tackles.  How will these guys become acclimated to becoming full-time starters, though?  This is a very difficult first game and fatigue will have to be considered.

I'm a tad concerned, but not overly about the secondary.  They finished Top 15 in pass defense last season and return three of those guys.  Of course, we would like to see this group not get torched by a very good quarterback continually.  Harris and/or Jennings likely become very good quarterbacks, but not in this game.  Too early, and their receiving corps is just as young, though immensely talented.

Honestly, pundits will take 'talent' and 'athleticism' every time in a game that features a lot of question marks.  No one should be surprised.

That being said, I have LSU winning 31-24.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:40 AM

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MGMbadger wrote:
UnknownBadger wrote:
Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.
Stave had to improve from last year, I think otherwise he would not have won the starting job as the staff seemed to almost want to make the change.  Do you agree with the B1G guys?
Are you sure he's won it? Yes I do. Hackenberg, Lunt, Gardner, Sudfeld, Cook will be better. Miller would have been.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:42 AM

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Who gives a rats ass what the BTN thinks, those guys are clowns. And don't try to skew it saying 7 in the Big Ten had more or were close to him, because the FACT is only 1 other QB who is out for the year now had more then Stave. Making him and Conor Cook returning QB's with the most passing Td's from last season. 
http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingTouchdowns/id/5/big-ten-conference
UnknownBadger wrote:
Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:46 AM

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To be fair, the players that caught 18 of Stave's 22 TD passes have all moved on. It's not only Stave's improvements going into 2014, but also the young receiving corps, which we have yet to see.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:47 AM

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Given that Arkansas put up 28 points on LSU last year, and Iowa lost by a TD in the bowl game, I like Wisconsin's chances.

I think Stave will be fine. It's the receivers I'm most concerned about, and whether  Aranda will get outcoached again like he was in the Penn State and the South Carolina games last season. Now, granted, he's coaching against Cam Cameron, but still. Those two games really concerned me.
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:48 AM

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Badger8843 wrote: Who gives a rats ass what the BTN thinks, those guys are clowns. And don't try to skew it saying 7 in the Big Ten had more or were close to him, because the FACT is only 1 other QB who is out for the year now had more then Stave. Making him and Conor Cook returning QB's with the most passing Td's from last season. 
http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingTouchdowns/id/5/big-ten-conference
UnknownBadger wrote:
Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.
Yup that's true. And 2 others were within 2 or .2 TDs per game.  wink 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/id/5/big-ten-conference

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:49 AM

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I'd argue that the Dayen/Bennett tandem was pretty close. At least as far as college goes.
hoopsgalore wrote:

Both teams have question marks.  

Wisconsin has a quarterback that showed some inconsistencies last season with Jared Abbrederis and Jacob Pedersen at his disposal.  Those 'lone' two targets are gone and a two-year starter with a history of shoulder/collarbone problems is going to rely on a cast of young receivers that get to go up against one of the better secondaries in the country.

Wisconsin will be forced to run, and run a lot.  Melvin Gordon and Corey Clement are one of the best, if not the best, running tandems in the country.  Hell, some around here, including myself, believe they are the two most physically talented backs Wisconsin has ever had.  We return an experienced offensive line (four starters) in a power-run game that goes up against a team with questionable defensive tackle depth.  As most know, opposing teams have always stacked the box and it has not kept our ground from getting their yards.  I expect most of the same.

LSU fans that preach their athleticism and talent over ours probably are being truthful.  You won't convince anyone around here that this will be the difference between a win or loss, though.  For as long as we remember, Wisconsin has always been outclassed in 'talent' and 'athleticism' and has fared just fine as a perennial Top 25 team for the past two decades.

The front seven certainly seems to be a concern.  I've been vocal that while it can be acknowledged as a weakness on the defense, it is not as severe as some make it out to be.  Most of the projected starters along that front seven all saw significant playing time a year ago and have started game(s) in their career.  Our secondary returns 129 tackles and the projected front seven returns 141 tackles.  How will these guys become acclimated to becoming full-time starters, though?  This is a very difficult first game and fatigue will have to be considered.

I'm a tad concerned, but not overly about the secondary.  They finished Top 15 in pass defense last season and return three of those guys.  Of course, we would like to see this group not get torched by a very good quarterback continually.  Harris and/or Jennings likely become very good quarterbacks, but not in this game.  Too early, and their receiving corps is just as young, though immensely talented.

Honestly, pundits will take 'talent' and 'athleticism' every time in a game that features a lot of question marks.  No one should be surprised.

That being said, I have LSU winning 31-24.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:50 AM

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UnknownBadger wrote:
MGMbadger wrote:
UnknownBadger wrote:
Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.
Stave had to improve from last year, I think otherwise he would not have won the starting job as the staff seemed to almost want to make the change.  Do you agree with the B1G guys?
Are you sure he's won it? Yes I do. Hackenberg, Lunt, Gardner, Sudfeld, Cook will be better. Miller would have been.
No, I'm not sure that he's won it but all signs point to that belief.  From what I've read is that Stave has separated himself, which I didn't think would happen but is encouraging in determining his possible improvement.

I believe our qb position will be better than last year and will be in the top 4.  At best, you have us as 6th best.  We shall see.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:51 AM

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Vegas will make LSU a 5-6 point favorite in this game. And a ton of money will come in on LSU, which will move the spread to 7.5 by kickoff, I'm guessing.

UPDATE: Actually,  LSU opened up at a 4.5-5 point favorite.

That should change when all the public money comes flooding in on LSU, thanks to the ESPN hype machine. The sharps are waiting to pounce once the line moves over a TD.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:52 AM

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MGMbadger wrote:
UnknownBadger wrote:
MGMbadger wrote:
UnknownBadger wrote:
Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.
Stave had to improve from last year, I think otherwise he would not have won the starting job as the staff seemed to almost want to make the change.  Do you agree with the B1G guys?
Are you sure he's won it? Yes I do. Hackenberg, Lunt, Gardner, Sudfeld, Cook will be better. Miller would have been.
No, I'm not sure that he's won it but all signs point to that belief.  From what I've read is that Stave has separated himself, which I didn't think would happen but is encouraging in determining his possible improvement.

I believe our qb position will be better than last year and will be in the top 4.  At best, you have us as 6th best.  We shall see.
Where did you read this? Here?
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:52 AM

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Stave is the starter. You can't throw MaCavoy into the fire vs LSU unless he's clearly head and shoulders better than Stave. And, not only is he not ahead of Stave, it is probably Stave who is ahead of MaCavoy at this point.
MGMbadger wrote:
UnknownBadger wrote:
MGMbadger wrote:
UnknownBadger wrote:
Badger8843 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

No ? at Qb, we know its going to be Stave and he brings back 20+ passing Td's with him. We have more concern at WR then QB
As I pointed out in an earlier thread 22 TDs wasn't a Big thing in the B1G last season. 7 others had either more or were in a couple of it and 5 of those were returning. In fact, there were 29 QBs in D1 who threw for more.

Regardless, the pass game as a whole, something the Badger QB whoever he is, is at least half of is a very big question mark. Heck, the B1G network guys don't even think Stave is one of the top 4 in the league.
Stave had to improve from last year, I think otherwise he would not have won the starting job as the staff seemed to almost want to make the change.  Do you agree with the B1G guys?
Are you sure he's won it? Yes I do. Hackenberg, Lunt, Gardner, Sudfeld, Cook will be better. Miller would have been.
No, I'm not sure that he's won it but all signs point to that belief.  From what I've read is that Stave has separated himself, which I didn't think would happen but is encouraging in determining his possible improvement.

I believe our qb position will be better than last year and will be in the top 4.  At best, you have us as 6th best.  We shall see.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:54 AM

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George2k5 wrote: Vegas will make LSU a 5-6 point favorite in this game. And a ton of money will come in on LSU, which will move the spread to 7.5 by kickoff, I'm guessing.
Its 4 right now across the board, it will not go to 7.5 before kickoff, not moving 3.5 pts in week with no injuries, bad guess.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/odds.html

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:55 AM

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kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

They lost their Starting 7 but all of the players this season have game experience so I do not buy that. They subbed more on D then they ever had last season.  LSU lost its starting RB, QB and both WR's so how is that any different. Offense is harder to play than D in my mind.

No question on QB we will see both McEvoy will run the spread as a change up. WI brings back a Dominate O-line and RB's that will both be studs. Not to mention TE's and FB's that block very well. No inferiority complex here they will kick the crap out every team on the Offensive side of the ball. On D they will be good maybe even great they have better athletes on that side of the ball this season. I went to the 1st scrimage they where flying around the field.....
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Posted: 8/22/2014 8:58 AM

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Wow, someone who actually pays attention, post more sir
Madrocker2012 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

They lost their Starting 7 but all of the players this season have game experience so I do not buy that. They subbed more on D then they ever had last season.  LSU lost its starting RB, QB and both WR's so how is that any different. Offense is harder to play than D in my mind.

No question on QB we will see both McEvoy will run the spread as a change up. WI brings back a Dominate O-line and RB's that will both be studs. Not to mention TE's and FB's that block very well. No inferiority complex here they will kick the crap out every team on the Offensive side of the ball. On D they will be good maybe even great they have better athletes on that side of the ball this season. I went to the 1st scrimage they where flying around the field.....

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:00 AM

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Just wait until ESPN starts its contractual obligation to hype the SEC, and the public money comes flooding in on LSU. You might be right that it doesn't go above a TD, but it's definitely going to move toward LSU.
Badger8843 wrote:
George2k5 wrote: Vegas will make LSU a 5-6 point favorite in this game. And a ton of money will come in on LSU, which will move the spread to 7.5 by kickoff, I'm guessing.
Its 4 right now across the board, it will not go to 7.5 before kickoff, not moving 3.5 pts in week with no injuries, bad guess.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/odds.html
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:04 AM

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It will not move up that much, however I will be honest, I'm worried we will lose by double digits. 31-21

Bo Ryan's offense is officially dead and has been figured out by the B1G. The only way he can continue to coach it is if he significantly upgrades the players.-George2k5

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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:05 AM

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That's true, but the badgers didn;t just lose 7 average starters. They lost Beau Allen (who was a terrific nose guard, and who the Eagles are very excited about, and may actually play a lot for them this year.) and All-American LB Chris Borland.
Badger8843 wrote: Wow, someone who actually pays attention, post more sir
Madrocker2012 wrote:
kowitzc wrote:

Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

They lost their Starting 7 but all of the players this season have game experience so I do not buy that. They subbed more on D then they ever had last season.  LSU lost its starting RB, QB and both WR's so how is that any different. Offense is harder to play than D in my mind.

No question on QB we will see both McEvoy will run the spread as a change up. WI brings back a Dominate O-line and RB's that will both be studs. Not to mention TE's and FB's that block very well. No inferiority complex here they will kick the crap out every team on the Offensive side of the ball. On D they will be good maybe even great they have better athletes on that side of the ball this season. I went to the 1st scrimage they where flying around the field.....
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:07 AM

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If the game is close after the 1st quarter, I think the Badgers will be fine. It's the first 15 minutes that worries me the most, because it will be the first huge game for a lot of key players on defense and at receiver. Plus, LSU will come out flying and freshest at that point.
Badger8843 wrote: It will not move up that much, however I will be honest, I'm worried we will lose by double digits. 31-21
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:20 AM

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George2k5 wrote: If the game is close after the 1st quarter, I think the Badgers will be fine. It's the first 15 minutes that worries me the most, because it will be the first huge game for a lot of key players on defense and at receiver. Plus, LSU will come out flying and freshest at that point.
Badger8843 wrote: It will not move up that much, however I will be honest, I'm worried we will lose by double digits. 31-21
I wouldn't expect either team to "come out flying" in the first quarter.  There's new players on both teams and it's the first game for both teams meaning they don't have a ton on each other.

I do expect LSU to stack the box and Wisconsin to have some counter to that in their game plan.  I also expect Aranda's defense to throw some wrinkles at LSU it hasn't seen.  It will all come down to execution as it always does.  The team with the fewest penalties, fewest dropped passes, and who is sound in the kicking game will come out the winner in what likely won't be a pretty game.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:26 AM

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DK913 wrote:
George2k5 wrote: If the game is close after the 1st quarter, I think the Badgers will be fine. It's the first 15 minutes that worries me the most, because it will be the first huge game for a lot of key players on defense and at receiver. Plus, LSU will come out flying and freshest at that point.
Badger8843 wrote: It will not move up that much, however I will be honest, I'm worried we will lose by double digits. 31-21
I wouldn't expect either team to "come out flying" in the first quarter.  There's new players on both teams and it's the first game for both teams meaning they don't have a ton on each other.

I do expect LSU to stack the box and Wisconsin to have some counter to that in their game plan.  I also expect Aranda's defense to throw some wrinkles at LSU it hasn't seen.  It will all come down to execution as it always does.  The team with the fewest penalties, fewest dropped passes, and who is sound in the kicking game will come out the winner in what likely won't be a pretty game.
I feel you are right, DK. I hope you are. If it becomes ugly, I'm afraid it won't be to Wisconsin's advantage. If it is, it will be one of the better game plans in Wisconsin history and a fantastic effort by coaches and players alike.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:30 AM

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Let me just state that LSU will be ready for that bootleg play action Ludwig loves to run. So, he should add a wrinkle off of that play. Maybe an option?
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George2k5 wrote: If the game is close after the 1st quarter, I think the Badgers will be fine. It's the first 15 minutes that worries me the most, because it will be the first huge game for a lot of key players on defense and at receiver. Plus, LSU will come out flying and freshest at that point.
Badger8843 wrote: It will not move up that much, however I will be honest, I'm worried we will lose by double digits. 31-21
I wouldn't expect either team to "come out flying" in the first quarter.  There's new players on both teams and it's the first game for both teams meaning they don't have a ton on each other.

I do expect LSU to stack the box and Wisconsin to have some counter to that in their game plan.  I also expect Aranda's defense to throw some wrinkles at LSU it hasn't seen.  It will all come down to execution as it always does.  The team with the fewest penalties, fewest dropped passes, and who is sound in the kicking game will come out the winner in what likely won't be a pretty game.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:39 AM

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George2k5 wrote: That's true, but the badgers didn;t just lose 7 average starters. They lost Beau Allen (who was a terrific nose guard, and who the Eagles are very excited about, and may actually play a lot for them this year.) and All-American LB Chris Borland.
Badger8843 wrote: Wow, someone who actually pays attention, post more sir
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Lets's see, The Badgers D lost its entire front 7. It has a major ? at QB. Gee, I wonder why people don't give Wisconsin a shot.

This inferiority complex some Badger fans have is getting very sad.

 

They lost their Starting 7 but all of the players this season have game experience so I do not buy that. They subbed more on D then they ever had last season.  LSU lost its starting RB, QB and both WR's so how is that any different. Offense is harder to play than D in my mind.

No question on QB we will see both McEvoy will run the spread as a change up. WI brings back a Dominate O-line and RB's that will both be studs. Not to mention TE's and FB's that block very well. No inferiority complex here they will kick the crap out every team on the Offensive side of the ball. On D they will be good maybe even great they have better athletes on that side of the ball this season. I went to the 1st scrimage they where flying around the field.....
I agree George but they are not returning with a bunch of guys that didn't produce.

Warren Herring        17 Tak, 10 Solo, 6 TFL, 4 Sack

Konrad Zagzebski   19 Tak, 10 Solo, 2 TFL

Derek Landisch       33 Tak, 19 Solo, 2 TFL, 1 Sack

Marcus Trotter          24 Tak, 10 Solo, 2 TFL

Joe Schobert            24 Tak, 12 Solo, 2.5 TFL, 1 Sack

Vince Biegel             25 Tak, 19 Solo, 3 TFL, 2 Sack

Sojourn Shelton      36 Tak, 31 Solo, 5 PD, 4 Int

Darius Hillary           30 Tak, 21 Solo, 5 PD, 1 Int

Michael Caputo       63 Tak, 36 Solo, 3 TFL

They will miss Borland he was like watching a Navy Seal take on a whole division of Taliban......

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Posted: 8/22/2014 9:44 AM

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George2k5 wrote: If the game is close after the 1st quarter, I think the Badgers will be fine. It's the first 15 minutes that worries me the most, because it will be the first huge game for a lot of key players on defense and at receiver. Plus, LSU will come out flying and freshest at that point.
Badger8843 wrote: It will not move up that much, however I will be honest, I'm worried we will lose by double digits. 31-21

I think just the opposite. UW has very questionable depth in the front 7, and they will be going against an excellent offensive line and rotation of running backs. LSU is going to run it about 70%-75% of the game (look at the run/pass ratio during the LSU/Iowa bowl game after Mettenberger when down - that's with Beckham and Landry on the team).

Late in the 3rd quarter and thereafter may be very hard to continue to hold up on defense. Conversely, I don't think UW is not going to wear LSU down, as they'll rotate in quality depth as needed.

I think the offense needs to be on fire and get out front early for UW to have a decent shot.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:22 AM

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Enough of the moral victories. Badgers lose a close game equals "I told you so"
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