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Posted: 8/5/2014 3:44 PM

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At the risk of offending you all by kicking dirt on one of your hometown guys, I have to ask you Badger fans a question: Were any of you sad to see Bielema leave for Arkansas?  That guy seems to be all bluster and not much substance.  Is he really as big an idiot as he comes across as in the media?  I have to think that the day he was hired at Arky was a great day for Wisconsin and 13 teams in the SEC not named University of Arkansas.

Side note: I would love to see and home and home between Auburn and Wisconsin.  I have heard nothing but great things about attending a game at Camp Randle.  See if you guys can make that happen for me!!


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Posted: 8/5/2014 3:53 PM

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To answer your questions/comments: no, yes, yes.
As for your suggested AU-UW home and home, I vote "yes!!"
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Posted: 8/5/2014 3:59 PM

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I've always thought Auburn fans to be very reasonable individuals, and this person continues to reinforce that thought for me.  Very astute observations I think.  biggrin

Bielema had success at UW as far as W-L record.  However there is strong debate if he truely elevated the program past what Coach Alvarez had accomplished.  Some viewed Bielema as a very good coach.  Some viewed Bielema as a clown.  My opinion is that he was a clown, but he was OUR clown (at the time).  I think Coach Anderson is an upgrade over Bielema, and as such was not overly sad to see Bert leave town to Arkansas.



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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:00 PM

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Bmoken wrote: To answer your questions/comments: no, yes, yes.
As for your suggested AU-UW home and home, I vote "yes!!"
I second this.  Bielema was fine for a few years but left at the perfect time.  He was starting to wear on the boosters here.  Any sadness of losing a coach with Bielema's track record on the field did not stay after hiring Andersen.  Much better fit personality wise for Wisconsin.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:05 PM

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Bielema is a talker. But, if he's given time to build that Arkansas program, it will be good. The guy has a talent for picking great assistant coaches. I think in all his years here, he's only missed completely on one or two guys.

If he's able to replicate the power football game at Arkansas that he had here at Wisconsin, but with the superior defensive athletes he can recruit to Arkansas, watch out.


AUWaterfowler wrote: At the risk of offending you all by kicking dirt on one of your hometown guys, I have to ask you Badger fans a question: Were any of you sad to see Bielema leave for Arkansas?  That guy seems to be all bluster and not much substance.  Is he really as big an idiot as he comes across as in the media?  I have to think that the day he was hired at Arky was a great day for Wisconsin and 13 teams in the SEC not named University of Arkansas.

Side note: I would love to see and home and home between Auburn and Wisconsin.  I have heard nothing but great things about attending a game at Camp Randle.  See if you guys can make that happen for me!!
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:08 PM

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A) I think Bielema was underrated here. I try not to assess Bielema based upon the way he left the program.

B) The Jury is still out on the Gary Andersen regime, IMHO. The way Wisconsin played the last few games of last season were not encouraging to me. Especially on defense. Also, I am a bit concerned about the recruiting. This season should give us more information.
NuclearBucky wrote: I've always thought Auburn fans to be very reasonable individuals, and this person continues to reinforce that thought for me.  Very astute observations I think.  biggrin

Bielema had success at UW as far as W-L record.  However there is strong debate if he truely elevated the program past what Coach Alvarez had accomplished.  Some viewed Bielema as a very good coach.  Some viewed Bielema as a clown.  My opinion is that he was a clown, but he was OUR clown (at the time).  I think Coach Anderson is an upgrade over Bielema, and as such was not overly sad to see Bert leave town to Arkansas.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:31 PM

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Bmoken wrote: To answer your questions/comments: no, yes, yes.
As for your suggested AU-UW home and home, I vote "yes!!"
One was!
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:39 PM

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George2k5 wrote: Bielema is a talker. But, if he's given time to build that Arkansas program, it will be good. The guy has a talent for picking great assistant coaches. I think in all his years here, he's only missed completely on one or two guys.

If he's able to replicate the power football game at Arkansas that he had here at Wisconsin, but with the superior defensive athletes he can recruit to Arkansas, watch out.
Who's power football game was that again? You didn't suggest it was Bielema's did you? If I recall he totally screwed up the offense in 2012 when he decided he was a better offensive mind than the OC he had hired. When Canada finally had enough and said "F*** it, I'm doing it my way, the Badgers tagged Nebraska with 70.

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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:41 PM

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AUWaterfowler wrote: At the risk of offending you all by kicking dirt on one of your hometown guys, I have to ask you Badger fans a question: Were any of you sad to see Bielema leave for Arkansas?  That guy seems to be all bluster and not much substance.  Is he really as big an idiot as he comes across as in the media?  I have to think that the day he was hired at Arky was a great day for Wisconsin and 13 teams in the SEC not named University of Arkansas.

Side note: I would love to see and home and home between Auburn and Wisconsin.  I have heard nothing but great things about attending a game at Camp Randle.  See if you guys can make that happen for me!!
I was surprised, but certainly not saddened by Bielema's departure.  Despite how polarizing of a figure Bielema was to the Wisconsin fan base, he had a very good W/L record and I certainly was skeptical what Wisconsin would follow up with at the head coaching position.

Bielema does not filter his thoughts too well and it certainly rubs coaches/fans the wrong way.  It happened in the B1G and can't say I am overly shocked it is happening in the SEC.

Yes, I would like to play Auburn [again] in the near future.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:42 PM

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As an Ohio State fan, I was glad to see him go.  I don’t find many head coaches these days as “likable.”  Bielama pushed the envelope.  But he coached Wisconsin to B1G championships, and was a couple of close Rose Bowl losses away from being lionized.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:49 PM

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Hi Auburn Fan,  I can't speak for all Badger fans, so you're not kicking dirt in my face as it relates to BB.  To his credit, BB did win throughout his brief tenure at Wisconsin, but I always felt that something was missing.  I don't know what that "something" was, but there was an intangible that was not present in bowl games when Barry was coaching.

Every year, I go to a couple Badger games and the scuttlebutt (gossip) about BB around the watering holes and restaurants is that when he first came to Madison, he was kind of a skirt chaser and a barfly.  He was also a guy who seemed very impressed with himself.  Again, this is just gossip.

You have a great team with Auburn.  I enjoyed your game with 'Bama last year.  It ranks as one of the greatest football games ever played.  Hopefully, we'll play you guys down the road.  Best of luck this year.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 4:56 PM

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Bert was great at beating up on Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, and Minnesota but struggled against worthy opponents.  

His clock management skills were atrocious and crunch time decision making left a lot to be desired.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 5:01 PM

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SaMOKEY wrote: Bert was great at beating up on Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, and Minnesota but struggled against worthy opponents.  

His clock management skills were atrocious and crunch time decision making left a lot to be desired.
I'm sure the SEC will find that he's a poor game day coach in short order.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 5:10 PM

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I was sad to see him leave. He produced very good results on the field, recruited and developed excellent talent that overall was of high character. The way he left was classless and makes it difficult for me to wish him well in his new position
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Posted: 8/5/2014 5:23 PM

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NuclearBucky wrote: I've always thought Auburn fans to be very reasonable individuals, and this person continues to reinforce that thought for me.  Very astute observations I think.  biggrin

Bielema had success at UW as far as W-L record.  However there is strong debate if he truely elevated the program past what Coach Alvarez had accomplished.  Some viewed Bielema as a very good coach.  Some viewed Bielema as a clown.  My opinion is that he was a clown, but he was OUR clown (at the time).  I think Coach Anderson is an upgrade over Bielema, and as such was not overly sad to see Bert leave town to Arkansas.
Every time the Iron Bowl is on I'm an Auburn fan. To be fair I always thought BB did a decent job at UW.  There always seemed to be something about him that made one feel he could go off the deep end any minute.  While he was here I thought he restrained his true self (perhaps with Barry's influence) but now that he has launched himself and probably lack's the mentor he needs, I think his true colors are coming through loud and clear.  Sad really.
Ecclesiastes 10:2

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Posted: 8/5/2014 5:48 PM

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I thought it amusing to watch SEC teams flailing around trying to defend Auburn's running game.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 6:01 PM

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I wasn't sad, nor was I happy.  I was quite surprised at his departure though; most everybody was.

BB knew how to hire good coaches for the most part and had some of the greatest players play under his watch.  He was able to keep the program humming at a very high level and did a good job at getting fan support (the W hand sign wasn't used by Wisconsin fans prior to BB, now it's everywhere).

Unfortunately he was also boorish and immature.  He rubbed many boosters the wrong way with his personal lifestyle.  The way he sneaked out was really in poor taste.

I neither wish him luck nor ill-will at Arkansas.  I'd boo him lustily if we played him but outside of that I couldn't care less.


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Posted: 8/5/2014 6:25 PM

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I liked Bret as a coach. You have to love that kind of swagger on gameday -- refusing to take the foot off the pedal against lesser teams (which Barry used to do), doing things like running the ball on every play in the second half against Michigan the one year, going for two against Minnesota (though I wish he'd have come up with a better excuse than "the coach's card"). Plus his players stayed academically eligible, mostly stayed out of trouble -- and if there was an issue he didn't hesitate to cut the problem player. In that at least he had a better track record than Barry did. I liked that he said that he would tell his coaches to consider if they would let a recruit babysit their child, and how they treated the women in their lives.

But there was that swaggery fratboy attitude, and honestly a lot of people in Wisconsin didn't like it. It might work better in the SEC than in the B1G. Lots of tales of boosters picking him up from bars, chasing coeds, etc. It's really lucky that a Petrino-esque incident never happened while he was our coach.

And yes -- that beautiful power running game and offense were built by Paul Chryst and Bob Bostad. Not Bielema. He'd love to do that at Arkansas, but for it to work in the SEC he'd have to recruit at a Saban level and I don't know if he can do it.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 6:31 PM

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Bert was great at beating up on Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, and Minnesota but struggled against worthy opponents.  

His clock management skills were atrocious and crunch time decision making left a lot to be desired.

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I agree with most but as far as clock management I must disagree just ask the local bars around Madison,
He could always get in another drink.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 6:44 PM

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I disagree. I think Bret will surprise some people this season. You have to remember he took over a finesse passing team, and is trying to turn it into a power football team. You can't do that overnight. You have to recruit the right guys at offensive Line. Paul Chryst is trying the same thing at Pittsburgh.

It takes a couple of years to get the right guys running that system. Bret's biggest problem at Wisconsin was on defense. He never had that super defense, even though he had a few outstanding players over the years in guys like Schofiled, Watt, Borland, etc.

At Arkansas, he can recruit those kinds of athletes. It will be interesting to see what he can do there if he's given the time.
brainysmurf wrote: I liked Bret as a coach. You have to love that kind of swagger on gameday -- refusing to take the foot off the pedal against lesser teams (which Barry used to do), doing things like running the ball on every play in the second half against Michigan the one year, going for two against Minnesota (though I wish he'd have come up with a better excuse than "the coach's card"). Plus his players stayed academically eligible, mostly stayed out of trouble -- and if there was an issue he didn't hesitate to cut the problem player. In that at least he had a better track record than Barry did. I liked that he said that he would tell his coaches to consider if they would let a recruit babysit their child, and how they treated the women in their lives.

But there was that swaggery fratboy attitude, and honestly a lot of people in Wisconsin didn't like it. It might work better in the SEC than in the B1G. Lots of tales of boosters picking him up from bars, chasing coeds, etc. It's really lucky that a Petrino-esque incident never happened while he was our coach.

And yes -- that beautiful power running game and offense were built by Paul Chryst and Bob Bostad. Not Bielema. He'd love to do that at Arkansas, but for it to work in the SEC he'd have to recruit at a Saban level and I don't know if he can do it.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 6:48 PM

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Fairway2 wrote:


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--- SaMOKEY wrote:

Bert was great at beating up on Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, and Minnesota but struggled against worthy opponents.  

His clock management skills were atrocious and crunch time decision making left a lot to be desired.

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I agree with most but as far as clock management I must disagree just ask the local bars around Madison,
He could always get in another drink.
I heard he took his chauffeur with him to Arkansas.  wink
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Posted: 8/5/2014 6:58 PM

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Yes I was sad to see him go - he was a great coach, recruited really well and ran a clean program.
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:42 PM

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I would love to see a home and home game against Auburn.   We need to look at four years out though.  We have LSU ALABAMA and LSU for the next three years.
I think I went to UW.... I have the diploma!!!
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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:44 PM

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BadgerRob wrote:  I enjoyed your game with 'Bama last year.  It ranks as one of the greatest football games ever played. 
I was at the Iron Bowl last year and was sitting (well, leaping up and down, really) in the endzone where Davis scored with the missed field goal.  Wild and crazy doesn't even begin to describe the scene.  I was also at the Georgia game and never thought I'd be witness to a more crazy ending than Ricardo Louis' prayer of a catch.  I was wrong.


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Posted: 8/5/2014 7:49 PM

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Jackster62 wrote: I would love to see a home and home game against Auburn.   We need to look at four years out though.  We have LSU ALABAMA and LSU for the next three years.
We just picked up Clemson....AGAIN!  Nothing wrong with Clemson, but we just finished a frickin' series with them two years ago.  There are tons of teams that I would have loved seeing on the schedule, such as you guys, Oregon, Washington, Notre Dame, Meatchicken, Miami, Standford, etc, etc, etc.  Not the greatest moment in our AD's tenure, I'm afraid.


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Posted: 8/6/2014 6:49 AM

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UWRX95 wrote: I wasn't sad, nor was I happy.  I was quite surprised at his departure though; most everybody was.

BB knew how to hire good coaches for the most part and had some of the greatest players play under his watch.  He was able to keep the program humming at a very high level and did a good job at getting fan support (the W hand sign wasn't used by Wisconsin fans prior to BB, now it's everywhere).

Unfortunately he was also boorish and immature.  He rubbed many boosters the wrong way with his personal lifestyle.  The way he sneaked out was really in poor taste.

I neither wish him luck nor ill-will at Arkansas.  I'd boo him lustily if we played him but outside of that I couldn't care less.
This... and as another poster pointed out, he ran a clean program.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 6:56 AM

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BadgerRob wrote: Hi Auburn Fan,  I can't speak for all Badger fans, so you're not kicking dirt in my face as it relates to BB.  To his credit, BB did win throughout his brief tenure at Wisconsin, but I always felt that something was missing
Yeah, it was called "Bowl Wins".

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Posted: 8/6/2014 7:37 AM

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Initially, I was disappointed he left because I feared UW would lose some of the momentum it had (continuity, recruiting, etc...). And to be honest, the program probably did.

However, GA calmed any fears and I think we ended up with a better fit (culturally). Time will tell if we got a better coach (I think we did) and I think he's the right guy to build on BA and BB's success and take UW football to new heights.

I didn't have hard feelings when BB left but some of his comments and tweets (including his wife's) have pushed me in the other direction. I hope he continues to get whipped.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 6:33 PM

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BB had a great W/L here and I have nothing against what he did with the UW program overall...

But I will never understand how we could lose 3 games the year we had Russell Wilson, Montee Ball, James White, Nick Toon, Abby, Peter Konz, Kevin Zeitler, Travis Frederick, Josh Oglesby, Ricky Wagner, Jacob Pederson, and Jake Byrne. Every single guy on that list either won some sort of postseason honor that year, or is currently in the NFL. And for 10 of the 12, both of those things are true. They were all major contributors that year. That is incredible.

And though the defense was the "downfall" that season, we still had Borland, Mike Taylor, Fenelus and Aaron Henry. Butrym was alright up front as well.

No way that team should have lost 3 games. Criminal.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 6:36 PM

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Now that Abby is in the NFL, isn't every current member of the 2010 and 2011 offense in the NFL?  Or am I just imagining things?
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