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Jump Around vs. Script Ohio

Posted: 7/11/2014 10:32 PM

Jump Around vs. Script Ohio 


Wisconsin Badgers fans voted in force Friday, making "Jump Around" the winner  in radio network Sirius XM's tournament for best college sports traditions. Sirius XM College Sports Nation tweeted the results at about 2:15 p.m.  Friday. "Jump Around," the 1992 hit by the group House of Pain, is the fourth quarter  lead-in song at Camp Randall Stadium, sending tens of thousands of football fans  into a frenzy.

The Badgers tradition got 52,729 votes in the Sirius contest, followed by  "Script Ohio" with 51,928 votes. "Script Ohio" is the on-field formation by the  Ohio State Buckeyes marching band. Ohio State voters were tweeting after the final results were known that the  LeBron James story (going to Cleveland from Miami) took votes away from OSU. No  recount has been called for as of yet. 

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Posted: 7/11/2014 10:51 PM

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At one point on Thursday, UW was down by about 2000 votes, and then Russell Wilson tweeted support.

The other funny moment on twitter was the UW account tweeting to the U-Michigan fans, essentially taking the enemy of my enemy is my friend approach.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 11:15 AM

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"Script Ohio" is not all that impressive.   Dotting the i?  Big Deal!  What if you had 4 of 'em to dot?

Now "Script Mississippi" or "Script Louisiana" or "Script California"  or even "Script Minnesota"...THOSE would be impressive!
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Posted: 7/12/2014 12:18 PM

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script ohio imo is the best tradition in college football.

jump around is the most fun. Really wish i could experience that.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 6:52 PM

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I agree with that. I have to say dotting the I is a better tradition, but jump around is a lot of fun.
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Posted: 7/13/2014 5:13 PM

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I love "jump around" and think its a really  great happening.

But "script Ohio" has a bit more going for it. It is older. And it is a school inspired tribute rather than a rock music base.

I think "jump around" is great. But its a tribute to rock music, and something that our students and fans get into at the end of the third quarter. Yes, it is something special that other schools only try to imitate. Yet  "Script Ohio" is a tribute to their university, not rock music.  All of their fans get into it, even at pregame, when their stands are full, and our stands are half empty.

Thus the difference. Script Ohio is is universty based, while jump around is rock culture based.

Jump around is still great, but its not like  a type of  "Script Wisconsin."
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Posted: 7/13/2014 6:06 PM

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I just watched it for the first time and....that's it?

I guess the band just doesn't do much for me as the 'main event.'
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Posted: 7/13/2014 7:53 PM

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travrest wrote: Yet  "Script Ohio" is a tribute to their university, not rock music.


"Jump Around" is not a tribute to rock music, though. It's really more like a 7th-inning stretch, closer in spirit and purpose to the "Bud Song" than to "Script Ohio." It's really hard to compare the two because they aren't about the same thing at all. The closest thing I know of in the Big Ten is the Three-in-One at Illinois, but that's lost a lot since the Chief was "retired" in 2001.
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Posted: 7/13/2014 8:07 PM

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Jump Around is rap
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Posted: 7/13/2014 10:37 PM

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Posted: 7/14/2014 12:40 AM

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SI also named Jump Around the best tradition in college football a few years ago. ESPN loves it. It's probably the best modern tradition in college football. Simple yet effective.
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Posted: 7/14/2014 8:35 AM

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brainysmurf wrote: SI also named Jump Around the best tradition in college football a few years ago. ESPN loves it. It's probably the best modern tradition in college football. Simple yet effective.



 
One thing that's appealing from a TV point of view is that the whole "Jump Around" takes a bit over 1 minute, and they can show just a few seconds to get the point across. "Script Ohio" takes nearly 4 minutes, an eternity of television time, so if they show it at all it's just the dotting of the i, which is like eating the cherry but leaving the sundae in the bowl. It's a great tradition for those actually in the stadium, but not as TV-friendly as "Jump Around" is; my experience is that most of the football fans I've talked to here in the DC area, especially the younger ones, know and enjoy JA, but aren't even aware of SO.

EDIT: A couple of good comments on an article about this contest:

"I love all the angry people saying "IT'S NOT A TRADITION!" and "ANYONE CAN JUMP!" Time does not make something a tradition, it's the atmosphere, and the feeling behind it.  Also, yes, anyone can jump around, and that's what makes it amazing. It doesn't matter if 7 or 70, you can be a part of it. That's what makes Jump Around so incredible."

"Maybe if your tradition was based on something that is actually impressive or was more about having a good time and was less about watching your marching band execute one of the most boring, predictable, and unimpressive routines in marching band history, you may have done better."

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These capture an important point better than my own post: JA is participatory and fun for the whole stadium (even visiting players and fans have joined in). SO is more a spectator event, slow-developing and predictable. As someone who's played in a marching band, I appreciate just how much practice and skill it takes to carry it off (it's harder than it looks), but at the end of the day it really is less about the fans and more about the Band showing its stuff. JA is just the opposite; in fact, the Band members simply become part of the student section and join in.

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Posted: 7/14/2014 11:00 AM

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OlBadger wrote:
brainysmurf wrote: SI also named Jump Around the best tradition in college football a few years ago. ESPN loves it. It's probably the best modern tradition in college football. Simple yet effective.



 
One thing that's appealing from a TV point of view is that the whole "Jump Around" takes a bit over 1 minute, and they can show just a few seconds to get the point across. "Script Ohio" takes nearly 4 minutes, an eternity of television time, so if they show it at all it's just the dotting of the i, which is like eating the cherry but leaving the sundae in the bowl. It's a great tradition for those actually in the stadium, but not as TV-friendly as "Jump Around" is; my experience is that most of the football fans I've talked to here in the DC area, especially the younger ones, know and enjoy JA, but aren't even aware of SO.

EDIT: A couple of good comments on an article about this contest:

"I love all the angry people saying "IT'S NOT A TRADITION!" and "ANYONE CAN JUMP!" Time does not make something a tradition, it's the atmosphere, and the feeling behind it.  Also, yes, anyone can jump around, and that's what makes it amazing. It doesn't matter if 7 or 70, you can be a part of it. That's what makes Jump Around so incredible."

"Maybe if your tradition was based on something that is actually impressive or was more about having a good time and was less about watching your marching band execute one of the most boring, predictable, and unimpressive routines in marching band history, you may have done better."

https://www.facebook.com/photo...e=1&theater

These capture an important point better than my own post: JA is participatory and fun for the whole stadium (even visiting players and fans have joined in). SO is more a spectator event, slow-developing and predictable. As someone who's played in a marching band, I appreciate just how much practice and skill it takes to carry it off (it's harder than it looks), but at the end of the day it really is less about the fans and more about the Band showing its stuff. JA is just the opposite; in fact, the Band members simply become part of the student section and join in.

Only someone that has never been in the Shoe to see the pride, enthusiasm, and participation of Buckeye Nation when TBDBITL performs Script Ohio knows how utterly uninformed this statement makes you appear.
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Posted: 7/14/2014 11:21 AM

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If you're not an Ohio State fan script Ohio is WAY overrated.  Great, it's old.  What else?
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Posted: 7/14/2014 11:23 AM

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Handloader wrote:
 
Only someone that has never been in the Shoe to see the pride, enthusiasm, and participation of Buckeye Nation when TBDBITL performs Script Ohio knows how utterly uninformed this statement makes you appear.


I don't doubt any of that, but it's still a spectator activity, not a participatory one, unless you count clapping in time to a march as participation--in which case I'll  counter with our Band's pre-game entrance.
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Posted: 7/14/2014 11:40 AM

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Kilgore309 wrote: If you're not an Ohio State fan script Ohio is WAY overrated.  Great, it's old.  What else?
There's really no suspense there any more is there? Everyone knows where the I is and that some fat tuba guy is going to waddle out, dot it, and then bow. Now if he were to get creative, do a jig, fall over, or something, it might just to keep the fans from falling asleep.

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Posted: 7/14/2014 11:48 AM

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Kilgore309 wrote: If you're not an Ohio State fan script Ohio is WAY overrated.  Great, it's old.  What else?

Kinda my sentiments.

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Posted: 7/14/2014 12:43 PM

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"Script Ohio" has never really impressed me that much, but the Ohio State band is doing some amazing formations (Michael Jackson moonwalking, etc.). They're miles ahead of the UW band in that regard.
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Posted: 7/14/2014 3:45 PM

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Honestly I think Script Ohio is very cool. But as OlBadger pointed out, it's not TV-friendly and it's not something everyone participates in. It's just a very different tradition than Jump Around.

Wisconsin has older, more meaningful traditions than Jump Around. But that's the one that's really caught everybody's attention.

the Ohio State band is doing some amazing formations (Michael Jackson moonwalking, etc.). They're miles ahead of the UW band in that regard.

The video game show they did a couple years ago blew me away. I wish our band did stuff like that. I love our band, but man, it's time for an update.

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Posted: 7/14/2014 5:11 PM

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OlBadger wrote:
Handloader wrote:
 
Only someone that has never been in the Shoe to see the pride, enthusiasm, and participation of Buckeye Nation when TBDBITL performs Script Ohio knows how utterly uninformed this statement makes you appear.


I don't doubt any of that, but it's still a spectator activity, not a participatory one, unless you count clapping in time to a march as participation--in which case I'll  counter with our Band's pre-game entrance.
Sorry to be a negative nannie here, but you obviously haven't been to Ohio Stadium to watch Script Ohio. Our band's pre-game entrance is now enacted before maybe 20,000 out of 80,000 fans. Script Ohio, which is also done pre-game, is played before 90,000 out of 105,000 people.

Our band's pre-game entrance was viewed by a vast majority of the eventual crowd many years ago. They were into it; they stood; they clapped along. Now its viewed by only a small fraction of fans that can find their way into the stadium 20 minutes early. A bunch come 20 minutes late. 

Ohio Stadium is almost full for the band pre-game. CR is almost empty.

I don't like it, but its true. No comparison whatsoever between Script Ohio in front of 90,000 clapping fans, and our band entrance before 20,000 fans sitting on their butts.
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Posted: 7/14/2014 5:23 PM

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travrest wrote:
 
Sorry to be a negative nannie here, but you obviously haven't been to Ohio Stadium to watch Script Ohio.




And I hate to have to say this for a third time, but as impressive as SO may be inside Ohio Stadium, it does not translate to TV as readily as JA. biggrin
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Posted: 7/14/2014 5:36 PM

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travrest wrote:
OlBadger wrote:
Handloader wrote:
 
Only someone that has never been in the Shoe to see the pride, enthusiasm, and participation of Buckeye Nation when TBDBITL performs Script Ohio knows how utterly uninformed this statement makes you appear.


I don't doubt any of that, but it's still a spectator activity, not a participatory one, unless you count clapping in time to a march as participation--in which case I'll  counter with our Band's pre-game entrance.
Sorry to be a negative nannie here, but you obviously haven't been to Ohio Stadium to watch Script Ohio. Our band's pre-game entrance is now enacted before maybe 20,000 out of 80,000 fans. Script Ohio, which is also done pre-game, is played before 90,000 out of 105,000 people.

Our band's pre-game entrance was viewed by a vast majority of the eventual crowd many years ago. They were into it; they stood; they clapped along. Now its viewed by only a small fraction of fans that can find their way into the stadium 20 minutes early. A bunch come 20 minutes late. 

Ohio Stadium is almost full for the band pre-game. CR is almost empty.

I don't like it, but its true. No comparison whatsoever between Script Ohio in front of 90,000 clapping fans, and our band entrance before 20,000 fans sitting on their butts.
I guess Wisconsin fans after fighting the traffic, searching for a parking spot, and walking a mile to CR, are more interested in catching a beer and having a brat and other pre-game festivities, and not the band. They watch that at half time or after the game during the 5th Qtr.

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Posted: 7/14/2014 8:18 PM

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Lame. Ohio State fans have to do the same things to get to their stadium.

Pregame and 5th quarter are sparsely attended and our halftime shows pale in comparison to OSU.

Bottom-line is UW fans (all of them-not just students) are late arrivers. Its has developed over the last 20 years that way for various reasons.

Jump around has replaced the 5th quarter as the cool thing to wait for at UW games. Things change.

We have our strengths and weaknesses as a fan base. A lot more of the former than the latter, but in some comparisons we fall short.
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Posted: 7/14/2014 9:59 PM

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I guess that depends on your definition of pregame. If the band is still on the field, I arrived too early.

The 'new pregame'....the live look-in to the locker room, the players running on the field with the highlight reel playing....that's a cool vibe and many fans are in their seats for the games against reasonable opponents.

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Lame. Ohio State fans have to do the same things to get to their stadium.

Pregame and 5th quarter are sparsely attended and our halftime shows pale in comparison to OSU.

Bottom-line is UW fans (all of them-not just students) are late arrivers. Its has developed over the last 20 years that way for various reasons.

Jump around has replaced the 5th quarter as the cool thing to wait for at UW games. Things change.

We have our strengths and weaknesses as a fan base. A lot more of the former than the latter, but in some comparisons we fall short.

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Posted: 7/14/2014 10:01 PM

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There' said reason people don't show up ’20 minutes early': The band is still on the field.

The majority of fans don't care....regardless of whether it's pregame, halftime, or post game. The band is not a compelling entertainment option as a 'main attraction.'


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OlBadger wrote:
Handloader wrote:
 
Only someone that has never been in the Shoe to see the pride, enthusiasm, and participation of Buckeye Nation when TBDBITL performs Script Ohio knows how utterly uninformed this statement makes you appear.


I don't doubt any of that, but it's still a spectator activity, not a participatory one, unless you count clapping in time to a march as participation--in which case I'll  counter with our Band's pre-game entrance.
Sorry to be a negative nannie here, but you obviously haven't been to Ohio Stadium to watch Script Ohio. Our band's pre-game entrance is now enacted before maybe 20,000 out of 80,000 fans. Script Ohio, which is also done pre-game, is played before 90,000 out of 105,000 people.

Our band's pre-game entrance was viewed by a vast majority of the eventual crowd many years ago. They were into it; they stood; they clapped along. Now its viewed by only a small fraction of fans that can find their way into the stadium 20 minutes early. A bunch come 20 minutes late. 

Ohio Stadium is almost full for the band pre-game. CR is almost empty.

I don't like it, but its true. No comparison whatsoever between Script Ohio in front of 90,000 clapping fans, and our band entrance before 20,000 fans sitting on their butts.

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Posted: 7/15/2014 6:46 AM

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Ph3431 wrote: There' said reason people don't show up ’20 minutes early': The band is still on the field.

The majority of fans don't care....regardless of whether it's pregame, halftime, or post game. The band is not a compelling entertainment option as a 'main attraction.'


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OlBadger wrote:
Handloader wrote:
 
Only someone that has never been in the Shoe to see the pride, enthusiasm, and participation of Buckeye Nation when TBDBITL performs Script Ohio knows how utterly uninformed this statement makes you appear.


I don't doubt any of that, but it's still a spectator activity, not a participatory one, unless you count clapping in time to a march as participation--in which case I'll  counter with our Band's pre-game entrance.
Sorry to be a negative nannie here, but you obviously haven't been to Ohio Stadium to watch Script Ohio. Our band's pre-game entrance is now enacted before maybe 20,000 out of 80,000 fans. Script Ohio, which is also done pre-game, is played before 90,000 out of 105,000 people.

Our band's pre-game entrance was viewed by a vast majority of the eventual crowd many years ago. They were into it; they stood; they clapped along. Now its viewed by only a small fraction of fans that can find their way into the stadium 20 minutes early. A bunch come 20 minutes late. 

Ohio Stadium is almost full for the band pre-game. CR is almost empty.

I don't like it, but its true. No comparison whatsoever between Script Ohio in front of 90,000 clapping fans, and our band entrance before 20,000 fans sitting on their butts.

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No "main attraction" idea expressed or implied. But you can spot the differences in fan bases by just reading this page.

Some posters here (thankfully not all) make excuses (eating brats, drinking beer, who cares about the band and our songs) for the late arrival of our fans. They praise the 5th quarter attendance which has gone from 60,000ish to 5,000ish over the years. And they don't notice the repeat after repeat of half time shows. But who cares about those things, right? You're stupid if you come early and leave late. And you're stupid if you care about the band and On Wisconsin.

Another school's fan base prides itself in its pre-game tradition, and has a band that does  lights out half time shows. It prides itself in having TBDBITL. It considers it to be not at all stupid and a waste of time to sing and clap to their songs.

Meanwhile, in Green Bay, the people show up a half an hour early for really no reason at all. And when our band does go and play there, their entrance is viewed by probably 30,000 more fans than watch them here. Evidently they don't serve brats and beer in Door County. And evidently they are extremely stupid fans there.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 6:58 AM

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I don't get your argument. Is it that Ohio St fans enjoy their band more than UW fans? Ok.

But the reason I don't go in early, stay in my seat at halftime, or stay after the game is because I don't find the band entertaining. It's part of the college football landscape but it's boring to me as the main event. Apparently, I'm not the only one.

I love being in my seat, however, for live look-in, the player entrance, and the highlight video.

P.S. - It doesn't encourage me to go in early when I can't drink a beer or view scores/highlights of other games.
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Posted: 7/15/2014 8:21 AM

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travrest wrote:

Some posters here (thankfully not all) make excuses (eating brats, drinking beer, who cares about the band and our songs) for the late arrival of our fans. They praise the 5th quarter attendance which has gone from 60,000ish to 5,000ish over the years. And they don't notice the repeat after repeat of half time shows. But who cares about those things, right? You're stupid if you come early and leave late. And you're stupid if you care about the band and On Wisconsin.


Personally, I care a lot about the Band, which has a great reputation outside Madison, btw. When I go to football games, I always am in my seat before the band(s) take the field, watch the half-time show(s), and stay for the post-game show(s). I can say from having compared many that the UW Band is one of the best around at all three, and when they perform at road games typically "wow" the other schools' fans. I'm sure that having had the same director for many years means that long-time season-ticket holders feel they've kind of seen it all before, but that's something like sensory fatigue: if you eat filet mignon every night, a plate of spaghetti and meatballs starts to look exotically tempting. The Band really is entertaining, and gets a much bigger response than the vast majority of such units do.
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I love college football and all it's great traditions. I love watching Boomer Schooner and A&M's 12th Man and Ralphie and War Eagle and Chief Osceola. I love the enthusiasm and spirit involved in your Jump Around. Seems Americans in general and sports fans in particular have become a bit obsessed with being #1. I have no problem with that when it's decided on a field of play. Anything else is lame.  A lot of people on this board aren't impressed with Script Ohio. Why on earth should you be? Your not part of it. But to proclaim it's not a great tradition just makes you look petty. There are a lot of great traditions out there and I'm sure every fan thinks theirs is the best. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Buckeye Game Day Ritual

Friday Night -  Prep and provision the RV. Sample food and beverages to assure quality. Draw straws for designated driver. Restock sampled beverages.

Very Early Saturday Morning - Hair of the dog for the hard core and tylanol for the designated driver. Buckeye flags flying and TBDBITL cd blasting as we roll down I-71.

Saturday Morning at the Shoe - Tailgate with all the other Buckeye fanatics.

Two Hours Before Game Time - Off to St. Johns for the Skull-Session.

Post Skull-Session - Quick RV pit stop to double check beverage temperature then into the Shoe for the band entrance. Clap till our hands are sore and sing the Buckeye Battle Cry - The Ohio State Alma Mater - and The National Anthem.

Game Time - Sing Hang on Sloopy  -  do the O-H-I-O chant - and yell till were hoarse.

Post Game - Bask in the glow of victory (most of the time) and join the players when they sing Carmen Ohio to the band - then back to the RV to check on beverage temperature and crash during the long ride home.
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Handloader wrote: I love college football and all it's great traditions. I love watching Boomer Schooner and A&M's 12th Man and Ralphie and War Eagle and Chief Osceola. I love the enthusiasm and spirit involved in your Jump Around. Seems Americans in general and sports fans in particular have become a bit obsessed with being #1. I have no problem with that when it's decided on a field of play. Anything else is lame.  A lot of people on this board aren't impressed with Script Ohio. Why on earth should you be? Your not part of it. But to proclaim it's not a great tradition just makes you look petty. There are a lot of great traditions out there and I'm sure every fan thinks theirs is the best. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Buckeye Game Day Ritual

Friday Night -  Prep and provision the RV. Sample food and beverages to assure quality. Draw straws for designated driver. Restock sampled beverages.

Very Early Saturday Morning - Hair of the dog for the hard core and tylanol for the designated driver. Buckeye flags flying and TBDBITL cd blasting as we roll down I-71.

Saturday Morning at the Shoe - Tailgate with all the other Buckeye fanatics.

Two Hours Before Game Time - Off to St. Johns for the Skull-Session.

Post Skull-Session - Quick RV pit stop to double check beverage temperature then into the Shoe for the band entrance. Clap till our hands are sore and sing the Buckeye Battle Cry - The Ohio State Alma Mater - and The National Anthem.

Game Time - Sing Hang on Sloopy  -  do the O-H-I-O chant - and yell till were hoarse.

Post Game - Bask in the glow of victory (most of the time) and join the players when they sing Carmen Ohio to the band - then back to the RV to check on beverage temperature and crash during the long ride home.
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