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BB - Only coach in WI history to have 3 straight 10 win seasons

Posted: 6/12/2014 9:32 PM

BB - Only coach in WI history to have 3 straight 10 win seasons 


at Wisconsin. When I was looking over the seasons going back to 1889 I was startled to see that BB was the only coach in the entire history of Badgers football to have 3 seasons straight of 10 wins or more. That is an amazing stat. Yes it is true teams of old didn't play as many games as they do now, but that is still an amazing feat considering Badgers football goes back to the 1880's. 

Coaches that won 9 games or more in three straight seasons:

Phil King: 1887-1889

Barry: 1998-2000 (11,10,9) 

2005-2006 was another stretch, but it involved two coaches. 

I don't care what your opinions were of the guy, that is an amazing stat.

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Posted: 6/12/2014 10:13 PM

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Startled? Really?

That isn't surprising at all if you follow UW football (and ncaa football in general).
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Posted: 6/12/2014 10:21 PM

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Ph3431 wrote: Startled? Really?

That isn't surprising at all if you follow UW football (and ncaa football in general).
Hell, up until the 1970s, we didn't play any more than 10 games.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 10:26 PM

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Exactly. UW didn't even win 10 games in a season until 1993.

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Ph3431 wrote: Startled? Really?

That isn't surprising at all if you follow UW football (and ncaa football in general).
Hell, up until the 1970s, we didn't play any more than 10 games.

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Posted: 6/12/2014 10:39 PM

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Ph3431 wrote: Startled? Really?

That isn't surprising at all if you follow UW football (and ncaa football in general).
I think maybe you've answered your own question there. biggrin

Engage the good posters, ignore the bad, report as inappropriate the problems. Message board rules. Thanks.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 10:46 PM

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So you are saying you studied all of the seasons of the past? lol..lol. 

Even at 9 seasons in a row it is so uncommon over the entire history....laid out the data already. 

Heck, Florida State did this 14 seasons straight or whatever it was. 
Ph3431 wrote: Exactly. UW didn't even win 10 games in a season until 1993.

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Ph3431 wrote: Startled? Really?

That isn't surprising at all if you follow UW football (and ncaa football in general).
Hell, up until the 1970s, we didn't play any more than 10 games.

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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:04 PM

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Lol? You think 'study' is required for this not to be surprising?

• UW rarely played enough games in a season before the 1970s to even win 10 games in a season.
• It's not only uncommon to win 10 games in a season when you play less than 10 games...it's impossible.
• UW doesn't have the rich history Florida St has. They didn't play more than 10 games in a season until the 1970s....during which UW was mediocre-to-bad until....Alvarez arrived.
• It was kind of a big deal when UW won 10-games in a season for the first time ever in 1993.

To summarize: It wasn't possible for much of the period you outlined...UW wasn't very good when it became possible...and A big deal was made out of the program's first 10-win season in 1993.

No study required. The Cliff Notes would cover it.

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So you are saying you studied all of the seasons of the past? lol..lol. 

Even at 9 seasons in a row it is so uncommon over the entire history....laid out the data already. 

Heck, Florida State did this 14 seasons straight or whatever it was. 
Ph3431 wrote: Exactly. UW didn't even win 10 games in a season until 1993.

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Ph3431 wrote: Startled? Really?

That isn't surprising at all if you follow UW football (and ncaa football in general).
Hell, up until the 1970s, we didn't play any more than 10 games.

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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:36 PM

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ph3431 I think?

I am pretty sure dude is not only being sarcastic but he is trying to get you to think too!
lets look dude has unknownbadger81
dude either graduated in 81 or was born in 81 so of course he knows what he is saying
he is being sarcastic he is letting you know that brett is the most winning badger coach in history on average analytical data that you like!
he is aware that badger fans ran off bb
so just think you or other badger fans need to chill the **** out
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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:37 PM

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sorry the unkownfan81 I think that is right
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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:38 PM

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UnknownBadger wrote:
Ph3431 wrote: Startled? Really?

That isn't surprising at all if you follow UW football (and ncaa football in general).
Hell, up until the 1970s, we didn't play any more than 10 games.
I graduated in 1964, The seaosn was nine games.
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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:39 PM

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maybe another way to think of it is he is playing a role or a character to make you think
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Posted: 6/12/2014 11:58 PM

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Of course that would seem like an odd stat to a Nebraska fan.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:47 AM

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Steve39277 wrote: ph3431 I think?

I am pretty sure dude is not only being sarcastic but he is trying to get you to think too!
lets look dude has unknownbadger81
dude either graduated in 81 or was born in 81 so of course he knows what he is saying
he is being sarcastic he is letting you know that brett is the most winning badger coach in history on average analytical data that you like!
he is aware that badger fans ran off bb
so just think you or other badger fans need to chill the **** out
Are you going to help stuff unknownfan's strawman now, before you finish stuffing yours? No one ran off Bielema. NO ONE! If he couldn't take the heat from a few fans here, he's not going to have thick enough skin to take what Arkansas fans are already starting to give to him. Poor persecuted BB. So little appreciation.

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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:49 AM

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He wasn't born or graduated in 81, he just went through 80 other names that have been banned.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:09 AM

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This is correct....besides the birth year. 
Steve39277 wrote: ph3431 I think?

I am pretty sure dude is not only being sarcastic but he is trying to get you to think too!
lets look dude has unknownbadger81
dude either graduated in 81 or was born in 81 so of course he knows what he is saying
he is being sarcastic he is letting you know that brett is the most winning badger coach in history on average analytical data that you like!
he is aware that badger fans ran off bb
so just think you or other badger fans need to chill the **** out
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:35 AM

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theunknownfan81 wrote: This is correct....besides the birth year. 
Steve39277 wrote: ph3431 I think?

I am pretty sure dude is not only being sarcastic but he is trying to get you to think too!
lets look dude has unknownbadger81
dude either graduated in 81 or was born in 81 so of course he knows what he is saying
he is being sarcastic he is letting you know that brett is the most winning badger coach in history on average analytical data that you like!
he is aware that badger fans ran off bb
so just think you or other badger fans need to chill the **** out

At least you and your other screen name agree with each other.  rolleyes

"Players make plays, players win games."

Gary Andersen

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Posted: 6/13/2014 7:49 AM

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You tried to make a clever point and now you look foolish. A basic level of UW and college football knowledge tells your your 'startling stat' isn't surprising at all.

What's actually more surprising to me is that two of Bielema's 10+ win seasons came despite losing bowl games.

Alvarez had 5 bowl seasons where UW played less than 13 games. Bielema never coached less than 13 games in his 7 seasons (including one 14-game season). Hell, Bielema still coached 13 games the season he bailed.

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This is correct....besides the birth year. 
Steve39277 wrote: ph3431 I think?

I am pretty sure dude is not only being sarcastic but he is trying to get you to think too!
lets look dude has unknownbadger81
dude either graduated in 81 or was born in 81 so of course he knows what he is saying
he is being sarcastic he is letting you know that brett is the most winning badger coach in history on average analytical data that you like!
he is aware that badger fans ran off bb
so just think you or other badger fans need to chill the **** out


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Posted: 6/13/2014 7:49 AM

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Hahaha. You just won the internet.


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He wasn't born or graduated in 81, he just went through 80 other names that have been banned.

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Posted: 6/13/2014 10:17 AM

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I can't wait for unknown badger to start crying when the next coach don't live up to expectations and he becomes fair weather as all hell towards him to. Fact is if you even listen to what you say on here about coaches and player you would be Red and flush as all hell wait fair weather bandwagon jumping fans don't do that because they have been fans all along. Fail dud I have seen picture after picture of stupid pictures of him on here posted to rip on him but I guess that is what good fans do. How about when trevon Jackson struggled with the rest of the team for five games, so many fair weather fans were ready to jump ship until him and the rest of the team made the final four the it was all good. Just as long as they win right unknown the min they struggle for a min you are ready to bail and jump on the next guys bandwagon till they don't win enough for you. Just cause you are on the Internet don't give you some exuse to talk trash about your own team, really super duper fan, ah piss they didn't win one game **** i better hate my favorite team oh piss they won now I got to love them again. what your telling me is mature fan bases fight with people's wives because the fan base is a bunch of fair weather trash talking Internet dbags who probably have never gone to a game or truely supported the team untill it wins. Sounds like a fair weather trash talking dbag to me. Hey why don't you get on the highest mt and proclaim how great a fan you are untill they lose and your true colors come out. If you truely beleive that all the trash talking on here and fair weatherness has no affect on people whatever why don't you coach the team oh wait you would have to put down the Cheetos and porn you sound like a dbag fan and fair weather as all hell. Oh wait you are one of those who always liked the badgers before 1990 unlike most people who did not but you sir liked them, yeah right.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 10:37 AM

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Just saying like it was, Steve. BTW, I have always had an empathy towards what college coaches go through. There's a very good reason for that. Personally, I just don't believe Bielema measured up in a number of areas I think important to the job.

It's not just winning. My favorite Badger coach of all time never won more than 7 games. It's doing it with class, representing the "U"niversity in a positive way, conducting yourself on and off the field admirably, treating your players and staff with respect, sharing the accolades (moreso, passing them down). Andersen, in all of these facets has, Bielema has come up short in a number of them. JMO.

Edit: One more thing, stevie boy, I've never jumped on Jackson or any basketball player. Nor have I jumped on any football player. I have pointed out areas of their games that need work. I have pointed out strengths and weaknesses in players and units, but you won't find me posting $hit about a kid unless he deserves the criticism (Clay for example).

I will jump all over a poster who's living in a fantasy world of his own making or refuses to pull his head out of the sand or someone else's behind.

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Posted: 6/13/2014 11:23 AM

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That is not they way badger fans on represent themselves on this board half the time, and if you are not one of them then good keep on liking your team, you say brett needed to do it with class well be a fan with class not just some over critical wierdo fan. Oh and why you got to be so critical about how a player plays? Are you a coach? Are you a division 1 player, a pro, if so you honestly get out there and do it better. Oh and all great coaches ave big heads, are arrogant, and most of them do what they see fit. Did Brett choke the chicken of boosters and media, probably not but that was not his job his job was to win the best he could with the resources he had. Do you go to games and spend money there to improve facilities? Do you donate to the program? I am guessing you might go to games but donate money so coaches can recruit better probably not. Instead of jumping on a player like clay for what media and reporters say, why not just say man if he don't try hard then his playing time should be taken, ENOUGH said. I think coaching should be left for those that actually know. And as far as Brett not having class do you know or in the know or do you just repeat what some agenda motivated reporter says or some boosters that honestly had as much class as Brett did ant not in a good way. Unless your Barry alveras I think you really don't know you just repeat what someone else says.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 11:32 AM

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So if your thoughts are yours and you truely think outside a box, I say sorry for lumping you in with the fans you know i am talking about. But the media did not like that Barry hired his student form the beginning and did everything they could to discredit him. If he won it was someone less win, if he lost it was just on him. Boosters and media wanted to pick the coach instead of the man who had an idea what he was doing. Like that TCU game really Chryst called the play, cause Brett coaches just like Barry, a CEO instead of play calling, should of he told Chryst he wanted a running play, who knows because that is not what happened and a great defensive player made a great play for his team. Those passing plays Chryst called would won that ame if that dude did not knock it away and the gadgets would of won. Against Oregon Jared dropped the pass and it did not go out of bounds, what would of happened if he held on or the ball would of gone out. And so on and so on. The media and boosters did not like Brett cause he was young and did it his way. Why not blame the players for not executing the plays.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 11:43 AM

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Steve39277 wrote: That is not they way badger fans on represent themselves on this board half the time, and if you are not one of them then good keep on liking your team, you say brett needed to do it with class well be a fan with class not just some over critical wierdo fan. Oh and why you got to be so critical about how a player plays? Are you a coach? Are you a division 1 player, a pro, if so you honestly get out there and do it better. Oh and all great coaches ave big heads, are arrogant, and most of them do what they see fit. Did Brett choke the chicken of boosters and media, probably not but that was not his job his job was to win the best he could with the resources he had. Do you go to games and spend money there to improve facilities? Do you donate to the program? I am guessing you might go to games but donate money so coaches can recruit better probably not. Instead of jumping on a player like clay for what media and reporters say, why not just say man if he don't try hard then his playing time should be taken, ENOUGH said. I think coaching should be left for those that actually know. And as far as Brett not having class do you know or in the know or do you just repeat what some agenda motivated reporter says or some boosters that honestly had as much class as Brett did ant not in a good way. Unless your Barry alveras I think you really don't know you just repeat what someone else says.
This is exactly what a couple offensive coaches did, and they did it publicly. College athletic events are not events performed in secrecy. They are there for all to see. Clay's lack of effort was there for all to see. It was around his stomach. It didn't take the coaches to come out and say it for most of us to realize it. Appleton's indiscretion was as well. So were Bielema's drunken parties, temper tantrums on and off the field, womanizing. Ignoring those are not in the best interest of the University of Wisconsin.

You won't find a single post of mine that states how a coach should coach. The schemes he uses for instance. But I have every right to express how he should represent himself. That goes for players as well. If you f*** up, you are accountable to the AD, the school, the media, and the fans.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:52 PM

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Steve39277 wrote: So give me one example of hoe Brett acted any different from any other coach. What he didnt give overly critical reporters the time they wanted after games. What he drove a nice car, what he ran up the score on minn so the badgers could go to the rose bowl. What it was his falt Jared could not hold on to the ball against Oregon, or the Russell threw a late interception. It's his falt that that TCU defender made an awesome play and in hindsight could of run the ball, okay nobody knows if that would of worked either. It's Brets fault the Wisconsin facilities are not world class, it's Bret's falt that kids don't see Wisconsin as a destination school, it Bret's falt he was a 33 year old millionaire coach of the Wisconsin badgers hand picked by one of the greatest coaches of all time, it's Bret's falt that some coaches were better friends with Paul Chryst then him, it's Bret's falt that crazy things happen. Why not throw Barry under the bus as well after all this is his falt. Oh wait it isn't Gary Anderson's falt that he made the same bone head mistakes last year. What else can we blam on Bret how about his weight, his face everything because in hindsight fans love to be critical. That is the point, none of theses clings make much since. Oh it's Bret's falt Wisconsin highschool football isnt as great as other states, it's Bret's falt kids from fl didn't want to move 1200 miles from their homes freinds and families, it's Bret's falt Wisconsin s cold, it's Bret's falt you have to ave good grades to get into Wisconsin, it's brets falt the competition in the big ten is not elite, what else can we possibly blame on a coach that won. He recruited great kids, he put Wisconsin in the light, he produced how many pro players. I mean really what else can be said to hate him. You sir want me to beleive that this critism is normal and lack of fanmsupport had nothing to do with his reasons for leaving.
C'mon, Steve. You must have had blinders on. Very few coaches conduct themselves, BBs way. It's a strawman that all coaches are arrogant, temperamental, womanizing, drunken, egotists. They are not.

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Posted: 6/13/2014 4:30 PM

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Steve39277 wrote: So you are never arrogant, you never have an ego, you have never had a drink, dude the gates of heaven must open up for you right now because you are one of the righteous people who live without sin in this world. You must be god himself, tell me were you live so I can come worship profection!
He (UB) is also not the most visible representative of the University of Wisconsin, and as such doesn't have to represent an entire university with his conduct.

If he (Bielema or, for example, UB) was the head of a company, his conduct would be judged and it would reflect on the company itself.  Same as if he was a governor or leader of a political party or movement.

When you are the face of something you have to act according to your position.  Bielema's actions as a representative of the school (as in, during his coaching duties on and off the field) or the stories of him on his own time out in public didn't always reflect that.  I agree with UB that those situations are fair play for critique.

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Posted: 6/13/2014 5:19 PM

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komacki wrote:
Steve39277 wrote: So you are never arrogant, you never have an ego, you have never had a drink, dude the gates of heaven must open up for you right now because you are one of the righteous people who live without sin in this world. You must be god himself, tell me were you live so I can come worship profection!
He (UB) is also not the most visible representative of the University of Wisconsin, and as such doesn't have to represent an entire university with his conduct.

If he (Bielema or, for example, UB) was the head of a company, his conduct would be judged and it would reflect on the company itself.  Same as if he was a governor or leader of a political party or movement.

When you are the face of something you have to act according to your position.  Bielema's actions as a representative of the school (as in, during his coaching duties on and off the field) or the stories of him on his own time out in public didn't always reflect that.  I agree with UB that those situations are fair play for critique.
Steve would make for a great PSU fan.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 7:53 PM

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Fixed it for ya.


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ph3431 I think?

I am pretty sure dude is not only being sarcastic but he is trying to get you to think too!
lets look dude has unknownbadger81
dude either graduated in 81 or was born in 81 so of course he knows what he is saying
he is being sarcastic he is letting you know that brett is the most winning badger coach in history , except that he was 2-4 in bowl games and never won a rose bowl, average analytical data that you like!
he is aware that bb ran off from wisconsin,
and he and I need to chill the **** out

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Posted: 6/14/2014 9:05 PM

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I just want one peice of prof he has acted any different then you have acted. One shred of evidence because this is just speculation about his personality. Just one peice of prof I am begging you to prove it.
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Posted: 6/15/2014 8:34 AM

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Steve39277 wrote: I just want one peice of prof he has acted any different then you have acted. One shred of evidence because this is just speculation about his personality. Just one peice of prof I am begging you to prove it.
What professor would you like a piece of? wink

Well, there is the temper tantrum in the MSU game that resulted in a costly penalty and us losing the game. There's the childish squabbles with Brewster. There's the embarrassing one with Meyer.  There's the drunken party with a picture or two that went viral. There's the personal back patting whenever he mugged on camera. There's the unwillingness to share the glory with the other coaches and players. There's  of course his slimy exit from the program just as the team was about to prepare for the Rose Bowl. There's the subsequent boyish excuses that followed. Those are all known. We won't get into the "I saw him at so-and-so's hitting on girls the other day" type comments that had surfaced from time to time. Hey, he was a bachelor, and I wouldn't expect the egomaniac to do anything else.
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Posted: 6/15/2014 9:40 AM

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So basically you just listen to everyone else have an opinion then want to follow suite. I can't really believe that hitting on girls is a point you want to make, so I suppose you have never ever ever ever hit on a women, must live a boring life! Dude that Brewster guy and Brett's do you even know what happened there it was a proffestionals rivalry with Wisconsin biggest rival, but oh what Jerry kill talked about Brett being a stand up guy! So it just matters who is on the winning side of things. Urban myer are you serious, they had a proffestionals beef like you would be just never mind dude I fail and you win in that situation. What are you kidding me, show me one head coach who after a win gets on there and says what you expected him to. Truth be told if he lead them to winning the rose bowls you would not be saying what you are cause it will not matter who it is, your fair weather fandom clouded what you think and you listen to other people and,let them form an opionion for you! All that it really sounds like to me is he did not win enough for you to be happy, then you say you would be happy with a losing coach. You would not be happy with a losing coach don't even lie.
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