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I just spoke with # Utes WR Coach Aaron Roderick. He has not been offered or spoken to either BYU or Wisconsin yet.

He would be an interesting choice as he is a BYU grad, his entire college coaching experience is Rocky Mountain/West Coast oriented and his current recruiting area is SoCal.

While I agree with Coach A about good recruiters being able to recruit anywhere, it still feels to me that we need somebody that can hit the ground running really hard in the southeast, namely FL.  Not complaining, I would welcome anybody that Coach Anderson feels is the right person.  Go Badgers

DBQBadger wrote:

He would be an interesting choice as he is a BYU grad, his entire college coaching experience is Rocky Mountain/West Coast oriented and his current recruiting area is SoCal.

While I agree with Coach A about good recruiters being able to recruit anywhere, it still feels to me that we need somebody that can hit the ground running really hard in the southeast, namely FL.  Not complaining, I would welcome anybody that Coach Anderson feels is the right person.  Go Badgers

TheNewRed wrote: Does the southeast really warrant a dedicated recruiter?  I question that type of commitment in light of the meager returns.  Not arguing recruiting there, just the amount of resources put there by the last regime.

DBQBadger wrote:

He would be an interesting choice as he is a BYU grad, his entire college coaching experience is Rocky Mountain/West Coast oriented and his current recruiting area is SoCal.

While I agree with Coach A about good recruiters being able to recruit anywhere, it still feels to me that we need somebody that can hit the ground running really hard in the southeast, namely FL.  Not complaining, I would welcome anybody that Coach Anderson feels is the right person.  Go Badgers

TheNewRed wrote: Does the southeast really warrant a dedicated recruiter?  I question that type of commitment in light of the meager returns.  Not arguing recruiting there, just the amount of resources put there by the last regime.

DBQBadger wrote:

He would be an interesting choice as he is a BYU grad, his entire college coaching experience is Rocky Mountain/West Coast oriented and his current recruiting area is SoCal.

While I agree with Coach A about good recruiters being able to recruit anywhere, it still feels to me that we need somebody that can hit the ground running really hard in the southeast, namely FL.  Not complaining, I would welcome anybody that Coach Anderson feels is the right person.  Go Badgers

TheNewRed wrote: Does the southeast really warrant a dedicated recruiter?  I question that type of commitment in light of the meager returns.  Not arguing recruiting there, just the amount of resources put there by the last regime.

DBQBadger wrote:

He would be an interesting choice as he is a BYU grad, his entire college coaching experience is Rocky Mountain/West Coast oriented and his current recruiting area is SoCal.

While I agree with Coach A about good recruiters being able to recruit anywhere, it still feels to me that we need somebody that can hit the ground running really hard in the southeast, namely FL.  Not complaining, I would welcome anybody that Coach Anderson feels is the right person.  Go Badgers

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.

spottedbadger wrote:

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.

it doesn't quite work like that.

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.

Wettle wrote:

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.

Let me ask you this, what's wrong with Wisconsin's OL, the majority of which come from Wisconsin?  Granted, while not skill positions, they are Midwest talent. What's wrong with Abby, Melvin Gordon, Mike Taylor, and the slew of other Wisconsin kids? Montee Ball is from a Midwest state, I thought he was pretty good. Jeff Lewis, Vontae Jackson, they're from Wisconsin. Many of our TE's have been from the neighboring states. 

And where did you come up with "1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls"? I can see you really don't have a clue about anything!

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

Wettle wrote:

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.

Let me ask you this, what's wrong with Wisconsin's OL, the majority of which come from Wisconsin?  Granted, while not skill positions, they are Midwest talent. What's wrong with Abby, Melvin Gordon, Mike Taylor, and the slew of other Wisconsin kids? Montee Ball is from a Midwest state, I thought he was pretty good. Jeff Lewis, Vontae Jackson, they're from Wisconsin. Many of our TE's have been from the neighboring states. 

And where did you come up with "1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls"? I can see you really don't have a clue about anything!

There's nothing wrong with OL, TE, DL, LB and your occasional great athlete (usually RB's) from the midwest.  The problem is in the passing game (offense and defense) where the midwest is way behind.  I blame the shorter seasons for stunting the development of QB's and WR's in this area.  I was watching a Texas state championship game a couple weeks ago and couldn't believe they were still playing since the kids in our state have been done playing for months!

And about the 1-9 record in the last 10 Rose Bowls? Go look who won the Rose Bowl in 2001, 2004-2005 and from 2007-2013 then tell me again who doesn't have a clue!

Wettle wrote:

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

Wettle wrote:

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.

Let me ask you this, what's wrong with Wisconsin's OL, the majority of which come from Wisconsin?  Granted, while not skill positions, they are Midwest talent. What's wrong with Abby, Melvin Gordon, Mike Taylor, and the slew of other Wisconsin kids? Montee Ball is from a Midwest state, I thought he was pretty good. Jeff Lewis, Vontae Jackson, they're from Wisconsin. Many of our TE's have been from the neighboring states. 

And where did you come up with "1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls"? I can see you really don't have a clue about anything!

There's nothing wrong with OL, TE, DL, LB and your occasional great athlete (usually RB's) from the midwest.  The problem is in the passing game (offense and defense) where the midwest is way behind.  I blame the shorter seasons for stunting the development of QB's and WR's in this area.  I was watching a Texas state championship game a couple weeks ago and couldn't believe they were still playing since the kids in our state have been done playing for months!

And about the 1-9 record in the last 10 Rose Bowls? Go look who won the Rose Bowl in 2001, 2004-2005 and from 2007-2013 then tell me again who doesn't have a clue!

Okay, I understand you know. Since you were talking about the Wisconsin Badgers i assumed you meant the Wisconsin Badgers were 1-9 in their past 10 Rose Bowls, that's why I was like, what the h. You just needed to be a better job of differentiating between the Badgers and the Big 10. Either that or I need to do a better job reading between the lines.

With regard to the Southern states,  I agree, they do have a built in advantage. If I'm not mistaken, they practice in the Spring as well......but don't quote me on that. I have a high school friend who now lives in Georgia and I thought he said something along those lines.

Badger8843 wrote: Hopefully we can land this guy as our WR coach and can help Ludwig out. He turned down Hawaii OC pos and was the CO-OC and pass game coord for Utah. GA still impressing me with his hires

wiscspfan wrote: Yes most of the southern states do have spring ball for high school.  That is one thing Urban Meyer mentioned he wanted to get changed in Ohio.  He wants Ohio high schools to have spring ball as well.

I have seen some limited improvement in Southeast Wisconsin for QBs, and WRs.  More schools are starting to play in 7 on 7 leagues and tournaments in the summer.  But it will take time to build up.

PDCBadger wrote:

Badger8843 wrote: Hopefully we can land this guy as our WR coach and can help Ludwig out. He turned down Hawaii OC pos and was the CO-OC and pass game coord for Utah. GA still impressing me with his hires

It is going to be fun to watch this staff shape and mold the UW program. I think GA made the correct decision not retaining Bart Miller. It is not the correct time to attempt to recruit TE's with a coach who has never coached them. Bart will do great where ever he ends up and who knows, maybe someday will return as our OL coach.

No.  I meant Florida in specific.  I think that the responses here to my original comment are actually proving my point.

I'm not suggesting we not recruit there.  But I am questioning the pay-off of having committed so many resources to recruiting there.  Yes, we have had some players who start, who play significant time, from Florida.  Not sure that wouldn't also be true if we were committing 2-3 coaches to recruiting New York - New Jersey, or to California, or to Texas.  The quality of player we are getting in Florida is questionable IMO, and it is not that I dislike any of them or their contributions.  It is more that I think we can be a bit more successful in other areas of the country while still working Florida with fewer resources.

DBQBadger wrote:

TheNewRed wrote: Does the southeast really warrant a dedicated recruiter?  I question that type of commitment in light of the meager returns.  Not arguing recruiting there, just the amount of resources put there by the last regime.

DBQBadger wrote:

He would be an interesting choice as he is a BYU grad, his entire college coaching experience is Rocky Mountain/West Coast oriented and his current recruiting area is SoCal.

While I agree with Coach A about good recruiters being able to recruit anywhere, it still feels to me that we need somebody that can hit the ground running really hard in the southeast, namely FL.  Not complaining, I would welcome anybody that Coach Anderson feels is the right person.  Go Badgers

NewRed,  I assume you were thinking "Southwest", because nobody that has been a Badger fan for longer than a minute, could not think the Badgers have not benefited from kids from the state of Florida.  I believe currently 10 playes on the roster are from Florida. 

Go Badgers

So, let me see if I understand your logic here.  Campbell is available.  Andersen is reportedly considering Roderick.  Andersen is limiting himself (and, by extension, the Wisconsin football program) by doing what exactly?  By not being more like Biff?  By not managing personnel and not making hiring decisions like Biff?  

Is that what you are saying?

George2k5 wrote: I can't believe there's no interest in Erik Campbell for the WR position. Not only does he have a successful B1G track record, he's got a ton of recruiting ties.

Last I heard, he was interviewing with Missouri for their WR position.

This is a big change from BIelema. BB did not limit himself to hiring coaches he knew personally or worked with before. And, it was obviously mostly successful with a couple of notable exceptions. I think, in Big Time college football, that is the right hiring approach. You can't limit yourself.

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote:

spottedbadger wrote: man, I don't know about this one. TGP says he's Andersen's choice, but man, can we really afford to have another recruiter from SoCal? And he largely recruits Jucos at that.

Badger fans have to understand that where coach recruited before won't necessarily be the same at their next job. We already have built in relations in Ohio so all you gotta do is send your best recruiter there and let him work.  It's the area's that you never recruited much where connections are needed more.  

I'm glad we have all these new ties to California, Florida and Texas because that's where you need to get your skill position players from.  After going 1-9 in the last 10 Rose Bowls I've seen enough of the midwest talent.  At some point it's not the coaches fault and it's on the players.