thesup wrote: When Bielema tweets this...

@ RCorn, you're right.  @ BretBielema traded one job for another. Now if you mean "traitor", blame Alvarez & WI Gov't for budgetary limits.

...you know there was something going down.  Why on earth would he re-tweet something that publicly placed blame on Alvarez?  And he has the gall to respond to a tweet immediately preceding that one chastising someone for tweeting something stupid?  What a hypocrite.  Not only that, but could he be more fake with his "I'm just a good ole' boy" shtick?  Totally reminds me of Buzz Williams at Marquette, but with less common sense.

Not sure what to make of any of this or even to believe any of it.  Coach B would have know that the Wis Athletic department does not use Wisconsin public funds (ie taxpayers funds) for support.  He would have known that most of his own salary and that of his assistants comes from funding even outside the Wisconsin Athletic Department's own budget, money from fundraising that is earmarked for salaries/football needs by those funding sources.

Just because you see it on the internet (including Twitter, etc) does not mean its authentic.  Not arguing about the specific Tweet because I am not about to spend any more time today on it. 

Let's move onto the Coach Anderson era.

Go Badgers

gooddogelsa wrote:

thesup wrote: When Bielema tweets this...

@ RCorn, you're right.  @ BretBielema traded one job for another. Now if you mean "traitor", blame Alvarez & WI Gov't for budgetary limits.

...you know there was something going down.  Why on earth would he re-tweet something that publicly placed blame on Alvarez?  And he has the gall to respond to a tweet immediately preceding that one chastising someone for tweeting something stupid?  What a hypocrite.  Not only that, but could he be more fake with his "I'm just a good ole' boy" shtick?  Totally reminds me of Buzz Williams at Marquette, but with less common sense.

As i said in another thread....he knew to start looking around.  BB's day were numbered at UW.

DBQBadger wrote:

Not sure what to make of any of this or even to believe any of it.  Coach B would have know that the Wis Athletic department does not use Wisconsin public funds (ie taxpayers funds) for support.  He would have known that most of his own salary and that of his assistants comes from funding even outside the Wisconsin Athletic Department's own budget, money from fundraising that is earmarked for salaries/football needs by those funding sources.

Just because you see it on the internet (including Twitter, etc) does not mean its authentic.  Not arguing about the specific Tweet because I am not about to spend any more time today on it. 

Let's move onto the Coach Anderson era.

Go Badgers

DBQBadger wrote:

Not sure what to make of any of this or even to believe any of it.  Coach B would have know that the Wis Athletic department does not use Wisconsin public funds (ie taxpayers funds) for support.  He would have known that most of his own salary and that of his assistants comes from funding even outside the Wisconsin Athletic Department's own budget, money from fundraising that is earmarked for salaries/football needs by those funding sources.

Just because you see it on the internet (including Twitter, etc) does not mean its authentic.  Not arguing about the specific Tweet because I am not about to spend any more time today on it. 

Let's move onto the Coach Anderson era.

Go Badgers

BAJJERFAN wrote:

gooddogelsa wrote:

thesup wrote: When Bielema tweets this...

@ RCorn, you're right.  @ BretBielema traded one job for another. Now if you mean "traitor", blame Alvarez & WI Gov't for budgetary limits.

...you know there was something going down.  Why on earth would he re-tweet something that publicly placed blame on Alvarez?  And he has the gall to respond to a tweet immediately preceding that one chastising someone for tweeting something stupid?  What a hypocrite.  Not only that, but could he be more fake with his "I'm just a good ole' boy" shtick?  Totally reminds me of Buzz Williams at Marquette, but with less common sense.

As i said in another thread....he knew to start looking around.  BB's day were numbered at UW.

For what reason/s?

thesup wrote:

DBQBadger wrote:

Not sure what to make of any of this or even to believe any of it.  Coach B would have know that the Wis Athletic department does not use Wisconsin public funds (ie taxpayers funds) for support.  He would have known that most of his own salary and that of his assistants comes from funding even outside the Wisconsin Athletic Department's own budget, money from fundraising that is earmarked for salaries/football needs by those funding sources.

Just because you see it on the internet (including Twitter, etc) does not mean its authentic.  Not arguing about the specific Tweet because I am not about to spend any more time today on it. 

Let's move onto the Coach Anderson era.

Go Badgers

You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but let me say it would have taken you all of 30 seconds to see that this is indeed from his official twitter account:  https://twitter.com/BretBielema

gooddogelsa wrote:

BAJJERFAN wrote:

gooddogelsa wrote:

thesup wrote: When Bielema tweets this...

@ RCorn, you're right.  @ BretBielema traded one job for another. Now if you mean "traitor", blame Alvarez & WI Gov't for budgetary limits.

...you know there was something going down.  Why on earth would he re-tweet something that publicly placed blame on Alvarez?  And he has the gall to respond to a tweet immediately preceding that one chastising someone for tweeting something stupid?  What a hypocrite.  Not only that, but could he be more fake with his "I'm just a good ole' boy" shtick?  Totally reminds me of Buzz Williams at Marquette, but with less common sense.

As i said in another thread....he knew to start looking around.  BB's day were numbered at UW.

For what reason/s?

BA has a big ego.  BB has a big ego.....

BB has some skeletons in the closet.....

maddogmarty wrote: There is misinformation about the Athletic Department Budget.  Most believed, myself included, that ALL Athletic Department funding came from it's own sources (ticket sales, sponsorships, boosters, etc.).  That is not entirely the case.  Out of the $89M budget, $3M comes from public funds.  While that is only 3.4% of its budget, it may put some sort of administrative stranglehold on rules, regulations and hiring practices.

With that said, I'd like Bielema to explain exactly which of his assistant coaches ever left to take a lateral position for more money.  Most coaches left to take promotions and those promotions naturally come with more money.  Would it have been nice to be able to offer more money to keep an assistant? Yes, but if it's truly a promotion then more money is most likely not going to help anyway.  I too am surprised that Bielema would tweet the above.  He's showing just how immature and petulant he really was/is.

BAJJERFAN wrote:

Remember too that in Wisconsin, Badger football  is NOT king. The Packers are.

maddogmarty wrote: There is misinformation about the Athletic Department Budget.  Most believed, myself included, that ALL Athletic Department funding came from it's own sources (ticket sales, sponsorships, boosters, etc.).  That is not entirely the case.  Out of the $89M budget, $3M comes from public funds.  While that is only 3.4% of its budget, it may put some sort of administrative stranglehold on rules, regulations and hiring practices.

With that said, I'd like Bielema to explain exactly which of his assistant coaches ever left to take a lateral position for more money.  Most coaches left to take promotions and those promotions naturally come with more money.  Would it have been nice to be able to offer more money to keep an assistant? Yes, but if it's truly a promotion then more money is most likely not going to help anyway.  I too am surprised that Bielema would tweet the above.  He's showing just how immature and petulant he really was/is.

UnknownBadger wrote:

BAJJERFAN wrote:

Remember too that in Wisconsin, Badger football  is NOT king. The Packers are.

How exactly do the Packers come into play in this at all? The Pack is a private enterprise and as such is subject to entirely different management. Its time to quit using the Pack as an excuse for every ill that befalls Badger football.

Wasn't Biff quoted as saying he wanted to Coach in a state where there was no pro football team so they were the only show in town.  Attention hooooowaa.

UnknownBadger wrote:

BAJJERFAN wrote:

Remember too that in Wisconsin, Badger football  is NOT king. The Packers are.

How exactly do the Packers come into play in this at all? The Pack is a private enterprise and as such is subject to entirely different management. Its time to quit using the Pack as an excuse for every ill that befalls Badger football.

People in Wisconsin are more passionate about the Packers than they are about the Badgers, therefore they don't necessarily care as much if we have the highest or best paid coaches or assistant coaches. OTOH, in places where the college game rules [like Arkie] or they have tradition like Ohio and Michigan, it is easier to justify higher salaries because more fans care. It wasn't that long ago that Meatchicken was stingy with the salary dollars, but I believe they have changed that.

Buckysdorsalstripe wrote: For Bielema to retweet these things and make a public feud surrounding them shows a level of immaturity and poor judgment that, quite frankly, is stunning.

Regarding the talk of salaries etc., the basic point is that UW is not a program where football is over-prioritized to the extent that others are (see every SEC school). There has always been pushback from the academic admins at UW and a mindfulness that UW is an academic institution with a football team, and not vice versa. As such, there is a pushback against the football team at times that does not exist at certain other institutions. Barry can't just say "let's pay our assistant coaches 1 million bucks each" and have everyone else easily acquiesce. At Arkansas, he could do essentially whatever he would want to. UW has moved in that direction, yes, but it is a far cry from several schools even in the B1G.

maddogmarty wrote: There is misinformation about the Athletic Department Budget.  Most believed, myself included, that ALL Athletic Department funding came from it's own sources (ticket sales, sponsorships, boosters, etc.).  That is not entirely the case.  Out of the $89M budget, $3M comes from public funds.  While that is only 3.4% of its budget, it may put some sort of administrative stranglehold on rules, regulations and hiring practices.

With that said, I'd like Bielema to explain exactly which of his assistant coaches ever left to take a lateral position for more money.  Most coaches left to take promotions and those promotions naturally come with more money.  Would it have been nice to be able to offer more money to keep an assistant? Yes, but if it's truly a promotion then more money is most likely not going to help anyway.  I too am surprised that Bielema would tweet the above.  He's showing just how immature and petulant he really was/is.

911sfan wrote:

maddogmarty wrote: There is misinformation about the Athletic Department Budget.  Most believed, myself included, that ALL Athletic Department funding came from it's own sources (ticket sales, sponsorships, boosters, etc.).  That is not entirely the case.  Out of the $89M budget, $3M comes from public funds.  While that is only 3.4% of its budget, it may put some sort of administrative stranglehold on rules, regulations and hiring practices.

With that said, I'd like Bielema to explain exactly which of his assistant coaches ever left to take a lateral position for more money.  Most coaches left to take promotions and those promotions naturally come with more money.  Would it have been nice to be able to offer more money to keep an assistant? Yes, but if it's truly a promotion then more money is most likely not going to help anyway.  I too am surprised that Bielema would tweet the above.  He's showing just how immature and petulant he really was/is.

It would not matter a bit if all the money were AD money. Regs still apply but those are being radically changed as UW gets much more budget and admin freedom under new laws. They won't pay because BA does not want to. End of story.

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote: I'm hoping this public call out of Barry ends up motivating him to raise the assistant salary pool.  If nothing changes were gonna have the same problem retaining Gary's staff the first time we have success.

BAJJERFAN wrote:

UnknownBadger wrote:

BAJJERFAN wrote:

Remember too that in Wisconsin, Badger football  is NOT king. The Packers are.

How exactly do the Packers come into play in this at all? The Pack is a private enterprise and as such is subject to entirely different management. Its time to quit using the Pack as an excuse for every ill that befalls Badger football.

People in Wisconsin are more passionate about the Packers than they are about the Badgers, therefore they don't necessarily care as much if we have the highest or best paid coaches or assistant coaches. OTOH, in places where the college game rules [like Arkie] or they have tradition like Ohio and Michigan, it is easier to justify higher salaries because more fans care. It wasn't that long ago that Meatchicken was stingy with the salary dollars, but I believe they have changed that.

This thread somehow got all screwed up as it relates to who said what.

Buckysdorsalstripe wrote: For Bielema to retweet these things and make a public feud surrounding them shows a level of immaturity and poor judgment that, quite frankly, is stunning.

Regarding the talk of salaries etc., the basic point is that UW is not a program where football is over-prioritized to the extent that others are (see every SEC school). There has always been pushback from the academic admins at UW and a mindfulness that UW is an academic institution with a football team, and not vice versa. As such, there is a pushback against the football team at times that does not exist at certain other institutions. Barry can't just say "let's pay our assistant coaches 1 million bucks each" and have everyone else easily acquiesce. At Arkansas, he could do essentially whatever he would want to. UW has moved in that direction, yes, but it is a far cry from several schools even in the B1G.

UnknownBadger wrote:

BAJJERFAN wrote:

UnknownBadger wrote:

BAJJERFAN wrote:

Remember too that in Wisconsin, Badger football  is NOT king. The Packers are.

How exactly do the Packers come into play in this at all? The Pack is a private enterprise and as such is subject to entirely different management. Its time to quit using the Pack as an excuse for every ill that befalls Badger football.

People in Wisconsin are more passionate about the Packers than they are about the Badgers, therefore they don't necessarily care as much if we have the highest or best paid coaches or assistant coaches. OTOH, in places where the college game rules [like Arkie] or they have tradition like Ohio and Michigan, it is easier to justify higher salaries because more fans care. It wasn't that long ago that Meatchicken was stingy with the salary dollars, but I believe they have changed that.

This thread somehow got all screwed up as it relates to who said what.

You know what? It did. The first time I was unable to write outside of the quote box [I think]. Did delete it once and repost with the same result. Now it's as effed up as a football bat.

UnknownBadger wrote:

Buckysdorsalstripe wrote: For Bielema to retweet these things and make a public feud surrounding them shows a level of immaturity and poor judgment that, quite frankly, is stunning.

Regarding the talk of salaries etc., the basic point is that UW is not a program where football is over-prioritized to the extent that others are (see every SEC school). There has always been pushback from the academic admins at UW and a mindfulness that UW is an academic institution with a football team, and not vice versa. As such, there is a pushback against the football team at times that does not exist at certain other institutions. Barry can't just say "let's pay our assistant coaches 1 million bucks each" and have everyone else easily acquiesce. At Arkansas, he could do essentially whatever he would want to. UW has moved in that direction, yes, but it is a far cry from several schools even in the B1G.

Who except for a meathead would want to move their familly to Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, or Arkansas without asking for a huge raise to settle there and expose their family to the worst living standards in the country? You need the huge raise to make up for all the shortcomings.

maddogmarty wrote:

Favre2Sterlingfor6 wrote: I'm hoping this public call out of Barry ends up motivating him to raise the assistant salary pool.  If nothing changes were gonna have the same problem retaining Gary's staff the first time we have success.

Prove it.  Which coach left for more $$ but the same job under BB?  Is giving someone an extra $50k-100k to stay and do the same job going to entice a coach to not accept a promotion to a coordinator position and a doubling of his salary elsewhere?  That's what happened in 90% of the cases under BB.  The other 10% of coaches left under BB's watch because they weren't doing a good job, move clsoer to family, NFL, etc.  Give me 1 name who accepted position Coach B at AnyPlace University for a substantial pay raise and BB came with his handout to Alvarez to keep Position Coach B and it didn't happen?